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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,12:44   

Hey Louis, is this you?

Skell Abuse at Pharyngula

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,12:45   

Having read the Theos/Comres report through once, it is obvious that these people have not bothered with looking at the cross tabulations.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,13:42   

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Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 04 2009,03:12)
Erasmus said, "croikey the real tard is on the Sibley pile."

You missed Arthur Smith:    
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My grandfather fought for England in the First World War. Like many others, he returned disillusioned with Christianity. I suspect England was set on a course of Godlessness from that time.
I thought it started down that path in 1859.

Yeah, but Darwin started the First World War.


aye, and the next

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,13:46   

Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,20:44)
Hey Louis, is this you?

Skell Abuse at Pharyngula

hehehehehe

Don't worry too much. Considering his wife's recent activities and now what plainly seems a virgin birth; she  will be ready for sex .....oh, in a about a month. If he's lucky.

This could get interesting..... expect more shoe throwing.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,13:48   

Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,12:44)
Hey Louis, is this you?

Skell Abuse at Pharyngula

Definitely.  Only Loose could be so flamboyant.  And by flamboyant I mean unabashedly trolling for man meat.

And there is also that little fleck of spit dangling in his bushy bushy eyebrows.  Dead giveaway!

but other than that jolly good show old bean.  it takes, erm, something to wade into the braying den of squid.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
dmso74



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,13:51   

Andrew SIbley aka Al Roker throws his vast qualifications into the ring:

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My own background is in meteorology, with a focus on understanding the chaos of weather forecasting


then offers up some sage advice for us Darwinians:

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The science of weather forecasting has improved because it takes seriously the levels of uncertainty in nature. A lesson there for Darwinian biologists I would suggest.


I'm not exactly sure what he's saying here. is it that evolutionary biologists have never considered that "nature" is subject to a lot of stochastic variation? perhaps he'd like to replay the tape of evolution with SJ Gould sometime..

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:00   

Microbes have finished evolving, but Domoman asks for extra time.

You gotta wonder what Domomomo-man thinks of rocks with high ratios of lead to uranium. "Nobody witnessed the decay, it's a just so story."

BTW - is anyone a geologist? Is it true that rocks older than 2.5 Gya don't have nitrate compounds? (Or stuff made from nitrates, like hot dog preservatives)

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:01   

Quote (dmso74 @ Mar. 04 2009,13:51)
Andrew SIbley aka Al Roker throws his vast qualifications into the ring:

 
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My own background is in meteorology, with a focus on understanding the chaos of weather forecasting


then offers up some sage advice for us Darwinians:

 
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The science of weather forecasting has improved because it takes seriously the levels of uncertainty in nature. A lesson there for Darwinian biologists I would suggest.


I'm not exactly sure what he's saying here. is it that evolutionary biologists have never considered that "nature" is subject to a lot of stochastic variation? perhaps he'd like to replay the tape of evolution with SJ Gould sometime..

that thread keeps on giving.

vjtorley (who is often a critic) calls Paul Giem a dummy, in advance.

Paul Giem thinks that because neither models nor empirical processes can't generate the characteristics he has arbitrarily chosen out of a bible hat to define "life" that all bets are off.  

Guess vjtorley was right.

can't wait for kairosfocus to give us his dossier.  this shit reads like a personal ads for lonely closet trannies that miss their mommy.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:07   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 04 2009,14:48)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,12:44)
Hey Louis, is this you?

Skell Abuse at Pharyngula

Definitely. Only Loose could be so flamboyant. And by flamboyant I mean unabashedly trolling for man meat.

And there is also that little fleck of spit dangling in his bushy bushy eyebrows. Dead giveaway!

but other than that jolly good show old bean. it takes, erm, something to wade into the braying den of squid.

The whole Punjabi speaking in-laws thing made me uncertain, then I realized they are probably just speaking Welsh but Louis doesn't realise it.  :p

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:13   

PUNJABI


WELSH


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FrankH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:16   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 04 2009,14:13)
PUNJABI


WELSH

What?

Falkland warbrides all converged in Wales?

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:19   

Mommy?

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:20   

Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,22:07)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 04 2009,14:48)
Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,12:44)
Hey Louis, is this you?

Skell Abuse at Pharyngula

Definitely. Only Loose could be so flamboyant. And by flamboyant I mean unabashedly trolling for man meat.

And there is also that little fleck of spit dangling in his bushy bushy eyebrows. Dead giveaway!

but other than that jolly good show old bean. it takes, erm, something to wade into the braying den of squid.

The whole Punjabi speaking in-laws thing made me uncertain, then I realized they are probably just speaking Welsh but Louis doesn't realise it. :p

Fuck, I hope he doesn't read that. This could get ugly.
No bollywood jokes either......aaahhhhhh erm OK.


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A : RING DE BASANTI


It's OK I don't get it either.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:38   

Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 04 2009,13:00)
BTW - is anyone a geologist? Is it true that rocks older than 2.5 Gya don't have nitrate compounds? (Or stuff made from nitrates, like hot dog preservatives)

Not a geologist, but I'll add a question to that question: does formation of nitrates typically required presence of free oxygen in the atmosphere?

  
Gunthernacus



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:42   

OT - and yet, not.

Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?












Sheep can hear a zipper a mile away.

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JLT



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,14:49   

Joseph demonstrates why IDists deserve to be ridiculed:
 
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As for Allen痴 continuing to say tat euks evolved from proks via SET, there is also scientific data which demonstrates that proks 電evolved from euks- euks came first.

As support for this he links to an MSNBC article that is based on an article by Kurland, Collins, and Penny in Science 2006 (Genomics and the Irreducible Nature of Eukaryote Cells). The MSNBC article wouldn't be too bad if they hadn't included this bit:

 
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It痴 just a joke, but the idea that life starts simple and gets more complex over time persists even in scientific circles. Yet one of the biggest events in evolutionary history the origin of the cells that make up every tissue in our bodies may be a case of life getting less complicated, according to recent research.


That's complete and utter bullshit.
To explain why, a little science. The following is from an article by Yutin et al. (2008). The Deep Archaeal Roots of Eukaryotes (free fulltext). Molecular Biology and Evolution.*

 
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Two key observations that must be taken into account by any concept of eukaryotic origin are currently not contested seriously.

1. All extant eukaryotes evolved from a common ancestor that already possessed an a-proteobacterial endosymbiont that gave rise to the mitochondria and their degraded relatives, hydrogenosomes and mitosomes (van der Giezen and Tovar 2005; Embley 2006).

2. Eukaryotes possess 2 distinct sets of genes, one of which shows apparent phylogenetic affinity with homologs from archaea and the other one is more closely related to bacterial homologs (not all eukaryotic genes belong to these 2 sets, of course; many are of uncertain origin, and many more appear to be unique to eukaryotes). There is a clear functional divide between the 荘archaeal鋳 and 荘bacterial鋳 genes of eukaryotes, with the former encoding, largely, proteins involved in information processing (translation, transcription, replication, and repair) and the latter encoding proteins with 荘operational鋳 functions (metabolic enzymes, components of membranes, and other cellular structures, etc.) (Esser et al. 2004; Rivera and Lake 2004). In some of the informational and operational systems, the archaeal and bacterial affinities, respectively, of eukaryotic genes are manifest qualitatively: Thus, the key proteins involved in DNA replication in archaea and eukaryotes are not homologous to the functionally analogous proteins of bacteria (Leipe et al. 1999), and conversely, some of the principal enzymes of membrane biogenesis are homologous in eukaryotes and bacteria but not in archaea (Pereto et al. 2004).

Apparently, the most parsimonious scenario of eukaryogenesis combining these 2 key facts is that the first eukaryote was an archaeal肪acterial chimera that emerged as a result of an invasion of an archaeon by an a-proteobacterium, the well-established ancestor of the mitochondria (Martin and Muller 1998; Rivera and Lake 2004; Martin and Koonin 2006). However, this is by no means the only scenario of eukaryotic origins that is currently actively considered (Embley and Martin 2006; Poole and Penny 2007b). The main competitor is, probably, the archezoan hypothesis under which the host of the a-proteobacterial endosymbiont was not an archaeon but a primitive, obviously, amitochondrial, proto-eukaryote that already possessed the hallmarks of the eukaryotic cell, such as the endomembrane system, the nucleus, and the cytoskeleton (Kurland et al. 2006; Poole and Penny 2007a). The symbiotic scenarios substantially differ from the archezoan hypothesis with respect to the level of complexity that is attributed to the host of the mitochondrial endosymbiont. Under the symbiotic hypotheses, the host was a 荘garden variety鋳 archaeon, with the dramatic complexification of the cellular organization being triggered by the symbiosis. In contrast, the archezoan hypothesis posits that, at least, some substantial aspects of the characteristic eukaryotic complexity (e.g., the endomembrane system) evolved prior to and independent of the symbiosis and were already in place in the organism that hosted the mitochondrion. Under the archezoan scenario, the presence of archaea-like genes in the ancestral eukaryotic gene set is, then, explained either by postulating that the proto-eukaryotic lineage was a sister group of archaea and/or by horizontal transfer of archaeal genes. The archezoan hypothesis was seriously undermined by the realization that all unicellular eukaryotes previously thought to be primitively amitochondrial actually possess degraded organelles of a-proteobacterial descent. Nevertheless, the archezoan scenario stays alive, with the proviso that the ancestral archezoan lineage had gone extinct (Poole and Penny 2007a).


Much shorter: There're two main scenarios which are debated, the symbiogenetic scenario and the archezoan scenario.
In the symbiogenetic scenario the host for the a-proteobacterial ancestor of mitochondria didn't have a nucleus, an endomembrane system or a cytoskeleton and the symbiosis triggered "eukaryogenesis".
In the archaeozoan scenario, the host already had some features that are characteristic for eukaryotes and correspondingly these features evolved independently of the endosymbiosis.
But even in the latter scenario by no means was the "proto-eukaryote" more complex than extant eukaryotic cells**. What Penny et al proposed is that extant bacteria could be simplified "proto-eukaryotes", but apparently Penny revised this view in a later article (2007) because of new findings.

The other problem with the MSNBC article is that it is completely one-sided. From a quick look at the literature it's clear that it's a highly controversial topic. Scientific controversies are almost never settled with a single article and as the Koonin article I linked to shows this specific controversy definitely isn't settled.
The MSNBC article doesn't mention that at all (in their defense I've to say that Penny argues as if the controversy were settled with his Science article).


If Joseph was really interested in the scientifically best explanation rather than in the explanation that fits his religious convictions best he would know all this as well.

But Joseph, ideology driven as he is, takes this one-sided non-scientific article which happens to fit his preconceived opinion as absolute truth and never ever asks himself whether there may be more to that story.

They never do.




* Disclaimer: Koonin is one of the authors and he's in favour of the symbiogenetic scenario.
** If one thinks that more organelles = more complex. Penny et al. fully accept the endosymbiotic origin of e. g. mitochondria.

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AmandaHuginKiss



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,15:01   

Quote (dmso74 @ Mar. 05 2009,06:51)
Andrew SIbley aka Al Roker throws his vast qualifications into the ring:

 
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My own background is in meteorology, with a focus on understanding the chaos of weather forecasting


then offers up some sage advice for us Darwinians:

 
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The science of weather forecasting has improved because it takes seriously the levels of uncertainty in nature. A lesson there for Darwinian biologists I would suggest.


I'm not exactly sure what he's saying here. is it that evolutionary biologists have never considered that "nature" is subject to a lot of stochastic variation? perhaps he'd like to replay the tape of evolution with SJ Gould sometime..

Does this article also look at personality disorders? I personally think that Dave Tard is the only one there close to being the full quid (which is a sad indictment in itself). Having had a short foray into posting and reading the tard directly, there is an all pervading denseness in their replies.

Also, how many IDists are there? The people at the DI know that ID was manufactured to get Creationism into the school and there publications now are purely evolution criticisms. Dembski and Behe have ID as their meal tickets so they have got to push it. After 20 years I am sure that these guys know that if ID was anywhere near honest it is about time to ask who, what, when and where.

Ask a creationist if they believe in ID they will say yes, but I am sure they prefer AIG for their source material.

So how many people are left?

MY definition is a person who can say with a straight face that ID does not require knowledge of the designer.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,15:32   

I think the number of cdesign proponentsists who have not fatally compromised their potential effectiveness as expert witnesses in court is zero.

There are probably a lot of churchgoing working biologists who compartmentalize their work and their religion, and who accept the data accumulated in their work, but believe God secretly loads the dice.

But I doubt if many of these people are political activists willing to swear under oath that their personal belief in the cosmic soup stirrer is unrelated to religion.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,17:10   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 04 2009,12:45)
Having read the Theos/Comres report through once, it is obvious that these people have not bothered with looking at the cross tabulations.

The folks at UD simplified things and just looked at the Cross.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,17:15   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 04 2009,16:10)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 04 2009,12:45)
Having read the Theos/Comres report through once, it is obvious that these people have not bothered with looking at the cross tabulations.

The folks at UD simplified things and just looked at the Cross.

So they're Cross-ID?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,17:21   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 04 2009,17:15)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 04 2009,16:10)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 04 2009,12:45)
Having read the Theos/Comres report through once, it is obvious that these people have not bothered with looking at the cross tabulations.

The folks at UD simplified things and just looked at the Cross.

So they're Cross-ID?

Tip. Veal.  All week.

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dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,17:45   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 04 2009,15:13)
PUNJABI


WELSH

A clear explanation of why India is overpopulated and Wales is not.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,19:46   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 04 2009,11:51)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 04 2009,03:12)
Erasmus said, "croikey the real tard is on the Sibley pile."

You missed Arthur Smith:  
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My grandfather fought for England in the First World War. Like many others, he returned disillusioned with Christianity. I suspect England was set on a course of Godlessness from that time.
I thought it started down that path in 1859.

Yeah, but Darwin started the First World War.

(Slaps forehead) How could I forget? Him and his acolyte, Adolph Hitler. I think Stalin and Mao were in on it too, along with Obama.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,21:57   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 04 2009,17:46)
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 04 2009,11:51)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 04 2009,03:12)
Erasmus said, "croikey the real tard is on the Sibley pile."

You missed Arthur Smith:
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My grandfather fought for England in the First World War. Like many others, he returned disillusioned with Christianity. I suspect England was set on a course of Godlessness from that time.
I thought it started down that path in 1859.

Yeah, but Darwin started the First World War.

(Slaps forehead) How could I forget? Him and his acolyte, Adolph Hitler. I think Stalin and Mao were in on it too, along with Obama.

I heard Judge Jones was really the organizer of the whole thing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,22:31   

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;t=5412



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,22:55   

Why is Billy Gibbons on that chart?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2009,23:04   

Since they are counting at UD: How many biologists added replies on the previous pages of this thread during the last 24 hours?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2009,00:06   

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Since they are counting at UD: How many biologists added replies on the previous pages of this thread during the last 24 hours?

I count, sort'a sometimes. Human evolution and anatomy is biology, and I taught intro bio, and gave papers on fish digestion, ostracod taxonomy, freshwater snail taxonomy and biological stuff like that. Maybe I am a 3/5 biologist.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 04 2009,22:07

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2009,00:35   

tard burglar in the dumb house!

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In Biblical terms, convincing arguments for evo-materialism would now require the wisdom of a Solomon.

But going by the tone of some of their leading spokespersons, all they have is the Life of Brian.


Loose, k.e.. this is your fault for posting those videos.

but hit got the platonist (wtf) all het up

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The Darwinian tree of life is bogus. There have been many posts on the site about that.

Lets be optimistic. Universal common ancestry, macroevolution is toast.

All the best everyone. I got a date tonight.


many posts on UD proves that!  Suck it losers, I'm chasing tail while you guys are still trying to calculate the CSI of a peanut butter sandwich!  Let's be optimistic, I might get to first base tonight.  who am i kidding, meet you guys on WoW after we get done waterlooing on UD.

rofl  here is that guy on his 'date'


but the fun can't last long, Allen wades into the pool and kicks out the jokers who are laying logs in it

that doesn't bother Domoman.  He is still tripping, while AM is playing accuracy enforcer, Domoman is looking at his hand

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Is it not strange that light, sounds waves, availability of substances to eat, to recycle substances, and to touch (to give a few examples) can even exist?


yeah man strange.  Like, what did you expect?  Zoinks!

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Seems to me that chance isn稚 even a reasonable answer. This is a bit of philosophical approach to the reason why existence is exactly what it is, rather than scientific, but I致e been thinking about it lately.


Ahh yes seems to you.  Hmm.  Well this is not much of a philosophical approach to anything nor is it scientific but I imagine he has been doing what he calls "thinking about it".  and by that I mean Praying About It.

wait

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My comment above would have to do with an atheistic world view. If you池e a believer of a creator of the universe, and even believe in evolution, the questions don稚 so much apply. Nor am I suggestion that evolutionists claim that evolution has anything to do with the universe (although Richard Dawkins has actually suggested there is some sort of Darwinian mechanism for the reason the universe is the way it is.) In fact, Richard Dawkins would do good to honestly evaluate my above questions


And UD breathes a huge sigh of relief.  he didn't mean you guys, he meant REICHARD DAWKINS.  TAKE THAT YOU ATHIEST

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You're obviously illiterate as hell.Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 05 2009,02:30   

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Loose, k.e.. this is your fault for posting those videos.


YES THAT'S RITE HOMO!

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE I'M A LEADING SPOKESMAN.

IN FACT RICHARD DAWKINS WOOD DO GOOD TO EVALUATE MY ALTER EGO CHUCK WOOD (A 70's porn star. His last real role was as a Fundamentalist Preacher Rev.Dr. Wood  in "The Devil in Jonestown")

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