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oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:30    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:23) Hey asshole- If I am wrong then please present the data which demonstrates that. Make a specific claim. It's hard to determine what you are talking about with all the insults.   Quote I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog. So what. Publish or perish. You have said   Quote And please provide the peer-reviewed paper(s) that support your explanation. Link   Quote How can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents? It isn't in any textbooks. And it isn't in any peer-reviewed paper. IOW asswipe your position is all smoke and mirrors. Link   Quote My "proof"= nothing in peer-review. Link All your own words. And so, by your own standards your "evidence for ID on your blog" is worthless, all smoke and mirrors.   Quote Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence? Probably for the same reason you are too afraid to publish your "evidence" in the same peer reviewed journals. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:30    Creationists love to control the conversation. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:32    Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 11 2010,10:29) Quote I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog. Then it shouldn't be too much trouble to cut and paste your best example of that evidence. Quote Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence? Your posts are coming through here without hindrance, Joe. You pre-moderate your own blog. A quick glance doesn't suggest your blog is a suitable venue for a free exchange of ideas. Alan, It shouldn't be any problem for you to post the best evidence for your position. Please start with a testable hypothesis for an accumulation of genetic accidents. As for posting here- just to fight assholes like you. I posted a new topic and some little faggot edited my words. IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:33    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:30) Creationists love to control the conversation. And Richtard loves to be a fucking asshole -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:33    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32) IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas... I guess it's time for this then -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:38    Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:38    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,10:33) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32) IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas... I guess it's time for this then Are you going to run away? That beats actually supporting your nonsensical position... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:39    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:38) Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects? Is that what you are taking? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:41    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:39) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 11 2010,10:38) Does peroxide have unfocused rage and loss of cognitive ability as side effects? Is that what you are taking? What you should do is write on a bit of paper "How is the peroxide treatments going" and when you switch over to your other personality he can write the answer. You can then read it at some later date. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:42    There may be CSI, in your neighbourhood, Who ya gonna call...? You should set up a CSI hunting small business like on the 'documentary' I referenced upthread. You may even get to bang Sigourney Weaver or Rick Moranis if you've come out of the closet by then. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

nmgirl Posts: 92 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:47    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:32) Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 11 2010,10:29) Quote I have provided plenty of evidence for ID on my blog. Then it shouldn't be too much trouble to cut and paste your best example of that evidence.   Quote Why can't you grow some balls and leave your protectorate and actually engage the evidence? Your posts are coming through here without hindrance, Joe. You pre-moderate your own blog. A quick glance doesn't suggest your blog is a suitable venue for a free exchange of ideas. Alan, It shouldn't be any problem for you to post the best evidence for your position. Please start with a testable hypothesis for an accumulation of genetic accidents. As for posting here- just to fight assholes like you. I posted a new topic and some little faggot edited my words. IOW this is not the place to exchange ideas... excuse me for butting in on the insult fest here, but isn't lenski's e coli experiment enough for you?

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:49    Duh! someone designed that experiment! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,10:51    Running totals for JoeG's mid-March "contribution" to this thread: Posts P = 13 Posts mentioning bottoms P(b) = 6 Prediction: ratio P(b)/P will increase as Joe gets more and more transported by the manly thrust of his argument. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:01    I believe, JoeG, that the subject here is "intelligent design," "specified complexity" and all that. So, JoeG, what is the mathematical definition of "specified complexity."  I can't find it anywhere.  What are the units?  How is it measured?   For that matter, what is the mathematical definition of "complexity?"  What are its units and how is it measured? Meyer states that "specified complexity" can not be expressed in terms of "mere" information like Shannon or Kolmogorov. Should be easy like F=ma or I=E/R.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:09    Looks like ID Guy is done. Hey, Joe Might let you last long enough to give us that demo of the EF. Perhaps next time. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:13    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,11:09) Looks like ID Guy is done. Hey, Joe Might let you last long enough to give us that demo of the EF. Perhaps next time. Don't count on it. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,11:16    Clean up in aisle five, please. Clean up in aisle five. We appear to have a troll spongle spillage in aisel five. Louis -------------- Bye.

rhmc Posts: 340 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,12:32    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:29) Someone asshead said I drive a Dodge. the asshead that said that was you.

slpage Posts: 349 Joined: June 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:03    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:31) Quote (slpage @ Mar. 02 2010,14:24) Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 25 2010,20:14)   Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 25 2010,20:06) Tell me, Joe.  Have you ever done a calculation?   He sure has!  Behold! So, an aardvark only 202 characters? Didn't Berlinski count 50,000 character differences between cows and whales? Dr Page proves he is an imbecile. The definition of an aarvark only has that many characters. Are you that stupid that you can't even understand what I post? Do you realize that 13 year olds understand what you cannot? Hi Joey, I see that you - being a scientist and all, what with your degree in electronics engineering - can only respond in  that oh so Christian (or is it still Muslim?) spirit. You see, Berlinski claimed to have gotten to 50,000 characters that seperate whales from camels.  You got a mere 202 characters that 'define' an aardvark.   If there are more than 50,000 differences between a whale and a cow, surley there are many more than define each species. So, this must mean that whales have at the very least nearly 250 times as many characters as aardvarks. Does that sound right? Which one of you is correct?

slpage Posts: 349 Joined: June 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:05    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,09:37) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 11 2010,09:34) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51) In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present. And what was the value you determined for the amount of information in a Aardvark? And is that more or less then the information in a bacterial flagellum? Do you really think your ignorance helps your case? Even if ID is bunk you still couldn't support your position. I take that bothers you. Your response does not in any way appear to remotely address what had been asked of you. Was your combat wound in Iraq to yiour head? And why was it not on the news?

slpage Posts: 349 Joined: June 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,13:07    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11) There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans. Is there any evidence that this can be accomplished by a disembodied unknown "intelligence"?

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,18:37    Hey, Joe. Perhaps you could use this forum to reveal (revelate?) how you would determine the CSI of a river rock from its manufactured copy. I understand you would have to examine it personally (I have no idea why this is so other than you say it is so, but I'll take you at your word), so what will you be looking for when you examine these two objects personally? Please be specific. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,19:50    Quote (slpage @ Mar. 11 2010,14:07) Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,10:11) There isn't any data which demonstrates mutations can accumulate in such a way as to give rise to new protein machinery, new body parts and new body plans. Is there any evidence that this can be accomplished by a disembodied unknown "intelligence"? Perhaps disembodied intelligences design disembodied body parts and disembodied body plans. We just can't see them. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,20:41    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:51) In the post "Measuring Information/ specified complexity" I used the definition of an aarvark as an example of how to measure specified information to see if complex specified information is present. OK. So you've measured the complexity of a particular English language definition of an aardvark. How does that help you determine how much complexity there is in a real beastie? (BTW, I read the post when it first came out. It has not improved with keeping.) -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,21:53    And an anxious nation awaits endarkenment, err, entardemission, maybe jerkjissim. Does it seem that there is a cycle to this bull shit? Do we have enough of the cycle to know its period? Is there a hetro-cycle (not likely, I would predict an off-set homocycle)? -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2010,22:02    Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 11 2010,22:53) And an anxious nation awaits endarkenment, err, entardemission, maybe jerkjissim. Does it seem that there is a cycle to this bull shit? Do we have enough of the cycle to know its period? Is there a hetro-cycle (not likely, I would predict an off-set homocycle)? The cycle you're looking for is "tricycle." -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:02    JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist... ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language! -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

digitus impudicus Posts: 62 Joined: Feb. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:04    Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:29) Quote (digitus impudicus @ Mar. 05 2010,23:21) Joe? Sweety? Whatever happened to our GN/GNX discussion? Is it parked in a tree? I don't have a GNX. And why would I want to discuss my GN with you? Someone asshead said I drive a Dodge. I just corrected that nonsense. So you couldn't afford a GNX? Or did you just drag a regal out of the junkyard and paint it black and slap some labels on it?

digitus impudicus Posts: 62 Joined: Feb. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2010,23:15    Besides Joe, I don't remember saying that you drove a Dodge.  I do remember you muttering something about a Buick GN and responding to that.

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2010,01:14    Quote (blipey @ Mar. 12 2010,21:02) JoeTard now claims that it is impossible for rocks to be baseball sized!!!  In other news, bread boxes don't exist... ID wunderkind destroys the notion of comparative language! Is that the stupidest thing he's ever said? I know it's a crowded field, but daaaaamn that shit is seriously dumb.  Like way dumber than a box of baseball-sized rocks. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

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