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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,22:45   

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Man, I wish I knew what was *wrong* with you people.  All I can figure out is that you must have had some *horrific* experiences with religious folks in the past to believe that religion is as bad as you seem to believe.

Believe it or not, FtK, some of us on this board are having a horrific experience with a religious person right this very second.


Amen.

ETA: That quote was from the BW.

Edited by Lou FCD on Feb. 10 2008,23:52

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,22:52   

Eftie,

It's so nice that an eon has passed and you still haven't figured out what an apology is.  Just say you don't give them.  That's cool; that's understandable (though not very nice).  Saying you apologize when you don't really--that's not very nice, or understandable.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,22:59   

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Man, I wish I knew what was *wrong* with you people.  All I can figure out is that you must have had some *horrific* experiences with religious folks in the past to believe that religion is as bad as you seem to believe.

Believe it or not, FtK, some of us on this board are having a horrific experience with a religious person right this very second.


Amen.

ETA: That quote was from the BW.

Thanks, Lou.

I was on my way over here to paste it and saw that you beat me to it.

Maybe we can rename this thread "The Bathroom Floor"...

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:01   

"The Potty" might be appropriate.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:15   

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Good grief, if you came to my church and left with the impression that what is going on there is "unfortunate for humanity", you'd have to be a complete loon.


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Character is Your Greatest Legacy - Joe Hishmeh
A D E V O T I O N A L G U I D E

Four Questions Regarding a Legacy:
1. The  you lived or the  you nurtured?
Genesis 19:6-8 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. 8Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof."

Ah! Aaggh! Aaaaaaauuuuugggghhhhhhh...

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One thing we can expect from the Bible is that when it comes to humanity God shows us “THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY”. This is one of those passages that you read and then kind of feel like you might want to grab a quick shower. You say to yourself, “WOW! What does God want to teach me from that?”

If you glance back a few verses into the window of Lot?s bedroom, you?ll find yourself wanting to look away. Incest just isn?t a pretty sight and it happens here, not once, but twice. In life we constanly make choices and as we all know choices have consequences. In fact that principle is woven throughout the pages of the Bible. “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.” (Galatians 6:7) A non-scriptural way of saying that might be “your chickhens do come home to roost”. God also tells us that if we choose the way of sin, sometimes those sins can have a ripple effect that can visit our childen and our chidren?s children. “…I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me…” (Exodus 20:5)

It is an interesting question to ponder as to why Lot found himself in such a situation, fathering two sons with his two daughters.

*Blaaahhhhh!* That ranks right down there with Abraham almost sacrificing Isaac as my fav.  :O By God, let's teach it in the classroom! Do it for the children, so they don't have nightmares about normal things, like monsters in the closet and Bigfoot and lava.

(Of course I'm a loon. That the Minnesota state bird, "chickhens.")

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:19   

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Do it for the children, so they don't have nightmares about normal things, like monsters in the closet and Bigfoot and lava.

or GIRLS!!!!one!!!1

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:24   

Oooh!

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“…I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me…” (Exodus 20:5)


How is that moral, exactly? Doesn't seem allegorical to me?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:25   

Far better for them to fear their parents having sex with them or killing them, just because the Big Sky Daddy said so.

But at least they didn't evolve from monkeys!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:26   

For that matter, why would wearing wool and linen together send you to hell? How does god feel about white after Labor Day?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:32   

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Unlike most of the other ID supporters, I still have a dream


Oh, they all have a dream..



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,23:42   

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You people are savages....it's rubbed off on me, and now I'm part of the problem when I enter ATbC bizzaro world.

I've never seen you act like anything other than a dishonest, lying and disingenuous twit myself.

Oh, that's another reason why I keep coming back.  To defend myself.  I've never been anything other than honest....yet, "twits" like this clown keep accusing me of dishonesty.


Now I see why FtK is waging her campaign on the Bathroom Wall: she's hoping that no one will notice there's a 200+ page thread chronicling her behavior.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,00:00   

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Oooh!

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“…I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me…” (Exodus 20:5)


How is that moral, exactly? Doesn't seem allegorical to me?

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Interesting choice of quote pulling, Kristine.  I don't suppose you listened to the message in it's entirety.  

I also don't suppose that you took the time to consider that how parents raise their children does have a ripple affect on generations that follow.  

I personally don't follow how God's warning in regard to how we were designed to live is a detriment to our lives.  He's telling us to raise our children wisely, or our sins will become there sins as well.  Unfortunately, we find that this happens all to often.


erm, not the same. Not even close. To get one from the other is rank dishonesty.

Also, is jealousy / envy a deadly sin? Bit hypocritical, that..

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,00:01   

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You people are savages....it's rubbed off on me, and now I'm part of the problem when I enter ATbC bizzaro world.

I've never seen you act like anything other than a dishonest, lying and disingenuous twit myself.

Oh, that's another reason why I keep coming back.  To defend myself.  I've never been anything other than honest....yet, "twits" like this clown keep accusing me of dishonesty.


Now I see why FtK is waging her campaign on the Bathroom Wall: she's hoping that no one will notice there's a 200+ page thread chronicling her behavior.

It's almost as if she doesn't think anyone will have read through this thread before so not know anything about what she has done in the past.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,00:07   

Yeah, she's done nothing in the past that could possibly allow anyone to draw conclusions about her, with the possible exception of her posts here, on her own blog, at UD, ERV's blog, Pharyngula, Young Cosmos, etc.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,00:58   

FtK starts off;

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The problem that I see is that neither one of us were there, so all we can do is speculate

and then goes into a bible rant, seemingly unaware that none of us were there for that stuff, either.

Edit: yes!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,04:05   

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You people are savages....it's rubbed off on me, and now I'm part of the problem when I enter ATbC bizzaro world.

I've never seen you act like anything other than a dishonest, lying and disingenuous twit myself.

Oh, that's another reason why I keep coming back.  To defend myself.  I've never been anything other than honest....yet, "twits" like this clown keep accusing me of dishonesty.


Now I see why FtK is waging her campaign on the Bathroom Wall: she's hoping that no one will notice there's a 200+ page thread chronicling her behavior.

Ftk is commenting on the Bathroom Wall because that's where Lou requested that her comments be restricted to until she either supports or retracts some previous comments she made.

Unless, of course, this is simply an ironic allusion to all those victory messages on UD when an IDC critic is "disappeared" by the administration there, where the clueless sycophants can't figure out the difference between being someone being denied access by the moderators and running away.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,05:19   

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Ftk is commenting on the Bathroom Wall because that's where Lou requested that her comments be restricted to until she either supports or retracts some previous comments she made.

Just a thought.

Could she be restricted to commenting only on her own thread rather than The Bathroom Wall?  First, having one conversation spread across two topics was confusing.  It wasn't until I actually read the FTK thread that I could piece together what the heck she was on about on the BW.  Second,  since there are multiple things going on in the BW, some of interest, by restricting her to her own thread it makes it alot easier, for those of us who have given up on her, to avoid the whole tragedy.   Lastly, with the latest hissy, I am now forced to go off in search of a bus station in order to relieve myself, as the BW has been rendered unusable.

*runs off with knees clenched together*

Added in edit:  If not, no problem.  I am sure, Wes, that you have better things to do than housework.  ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,07:26   

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IF AtBC is so aversive for you, Ftk, what are you doing here? (And I'll let you decide which creature better represents YOU.)


Well, Bill, it's like this....

A person, who I now somewhat consider a friend, started a thread here at AtBC and I started receiving hits on my sitemeter which clued me in to the fact that a group of Darwinists were making fun of me on a daily basis.

Unlike most of the other ID supporters, I still have a dream.  My dream is that one day people will lay aside their petty differences, which seem to be based on personal philosophy, and allow our students to consider all the facts from both sides of this debate.  

Also, unlike most of the other ID supporters, I've always believed it might be of benefit to try to actually get to know those who are tossing arrows and having a grand time making fun of us.  I thought, perhaps...just perhaps, if I got to know some of you, I wouldn't loath you so much for treating me like crap.  

Well, not terribly surprising to me, it worked.  After getting to know many of you, I find it pretty difficult to loath you.  

But, like the turtle, I always wonder when you're going to turn on me...which is why I find it difficult not to peek in here.  I keep thinking...heck, eventually they're going to tire of reading my blog and just let my thread float away.  But, that never happens.  Whatever I write is discussed here at length, and everyone gets their jollies making fun of me.  

The problem is that, although I've learned the true nature of the Scorpion, I never seem to be able to let go of the dream...

Of course, you are factually incorrect with respect to your assertion that the differences in question (age of earth, fact of common descent, mechanisms of evolution) are a matter of personal philosophy. {Dead horse remains immobile.}

I think you've missed the point of the the parable of the tortoise and the scorpion. The point is that the scorpion's behavior is utterly predictable. The tortoise was foolish to expect otherwise and should not have been surprised when stung by the scorpion.

We share responsibility for such predictable stings. If you continue posting here expect more, and quit complaining about them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,07:54   

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Unlike most of the other ID supporters, I still have a dream


Oh, they all have a dream..


Her dream is that creationism makes sense, is scientific, and supported by evidence. Sadly for her, that is only a dream.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,08:33   

Over on the BW, FtK writes  
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Eugenie may not consider herself being deceptive in this regard, but it's hard for me to sit here and not question her motives when she makes statements like "I have found that the most effective allies for evolution are people of the faith community. One clergyman with a backward collar is worth two biologists at a school board meeting any day!"  When I first read that interview, I could absolutely not believe she said that.

And I'm sorry, but I fail to understand the problem here. The DI has made this a culture war, recruiting unwitting and ignorant folks in a crusade for the renewal of science and culture. The fact is that the religious aspects of this struggle are almost exclusively due to the efforts of a band of fundamentalist American Christians, AND that most Christians on the planet do not think that acknowledgment of scientific facts is a threat to their deity. Recruiting sane Christians to talk to school boards about the non-conflict between mainstream Christian beliefs and mainstream science sends that message. This recruitment does NOT stem from a desire to convert said Christians to atheism; it is an inevitable outcome of the efforts of the DI to inject religion into a science discussion.

Secondly, if you condemn this, and IF you are thinking logically, you must also condemn Jonathan Wells, who obtained a PhD in Biology simply because it would burnish his credentials in his chosen field, the overthrow of evil atheistic materialistic science. If recruiting pastors to talk to school boards is reprehensible, so is Wells' behavior.

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She also goes on and on and on about evolution being a fact, yet when I listened to her lecture...her facts centered on the obvious microveolutionary changes of coloring in mice and moths.  Good grief...!  Look at these mice...can't you tell that evolution is a fact?  Those creationists are simply silly... like dowsers.  God, what a horrific association.  

And how does this provide evidence that Eugenie Scott is an evangelical atheist?  Evolution is a fact, a scientific fact. It is not a religious position; scientists of all religions can accept it and still be faithful to their religious beliefs. Furthermore, if the association of creationists with dowsers offends you, then tell Walt Brown and Mike Behe and all the rest of the born-again creationists to get to work and generate some hypotheses and do some experiments and publish them in real journals. Dowsers don't publish much either, and the association will persist until somebody puts their results where their faith is.

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I'm sorry, but I believe what I say about Eugenie...no lies involved.

And let it be noted that nobody accused you of lying about this, we asked for evidence. There is still no evidence involved.

As noted before, please spare us the litany of slights and persecutions that you seem to think will distract us from the fact that you have provided no evidence of "evangelical atheism" statements, no evidence of "dishonesty", and no evidence of Eugenie "blasting" anyone and trying to change their religious beliefs. You are not being persecuted because you are a creationist; you are being asked to provide evidence for statements you made which seem to be at least theoretically verifiable. Hunkering down and pointing to past insults is not a relevant response, but crying about persecution does seem to be the standard behavior of many creationists. Does Ftk actually stand for Fort Topeka?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:18   

Ftk:

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???  I backed up what I said about Eugenie.  She said that priests with backward collars are of better use to her than biologists.

She's lectured at churches right along with the preacher.  She even wrote a book, and asked a preacher to write a portion of it.  I've read the book.

How in the world is that not backing up what I said about her???

You can interprete her method anyway you choose, but it seems pretty obvious to me what she's doing.


Ftk said Eugenie Scott was dishonest.

Ftk offers Scott saying that having clergymen speak at school board meetings to note that evolution and faith are compatible does help.

Ftk is under a misapprehension that the quote she has somehow makes Scott "dishonest". At this point, Ftk sheds all pretense of logic like ducks shed water. Ftk doesn't like the fact that it is effective to have clergy speak up for science at school board meetings, but that doesn't have anything to do with Scott's integrity.

The only thing that Ftk has backed up is her inability to separate her opinion from evidence, and that Ftk simply cannot make a logical argument to save her life... bless her heart.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:27   

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... bless her heart.

Talk about living up (or down) to someone's expectations.  That is just........mean of you, Wes.

Note: In case anyone is perplexed, an explanation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:29   

Great use of "bless her heart"


Bless your / his / her heart is the great southern mitigator. I could say "Louis is a club footed gimpy nonce*" and if I add (well) bless his heart, it's somehow okay!

My interpretation of "Well bless your heart" from what I saw when I was down there was "well, aren't you slow?"



*He is, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:32   

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My interpretation of "Well bless your heart" from what I saw when I was down there was "well, aren't you slow?"

Indeed.

Bless your heart.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:34   

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My interpretation of "Well bless your heart" from what I saw when I was down there was "well, aren't you slow?"

Indeed.

Bless your heart.

I notice no linked pictures.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:37   

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My interpretation of "Well bless your heart" from what I saw when I was down there was "well, aren't you slow?"

Indeed.

Bless your heart.

I notice no linked pictures.

Note the comment preceding yours.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,09:42   

I guess I was a little tardy

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,10:03   

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Great use of "bless her heart"


Bless your / his / her heart is the great southern mitigator. I could say "Louis is a club footed gimpy nonce*" and if I add (well) bless his heart, it's somehow okay!

My interpretation of "Well bless your heart" from what I saw when I was down there was "well, aren't you slow?"



*He is, though.

Ahhhhh personal abuse. Excellent.

I'll have you know I am not club footed you blinkered, butt-ugly, bad-breathed bum bandit.....bless your heart.*

Louis

*Love it! I loved the explanation provided above. "Bless her heart, she can't help being ugly, but she could've stayed home." Very good. The Cornish version would be "I know anyone can be ugly, but she's abusing the privilege.". Not as subtle, but just as amusing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,10:07   

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The DI has made this a culture war, recruiting unwitting and ignorant folks in a crusade for the renewal of science and culture. The fact is that the religious aspects of this struggle are almost exclusively due to the efforts of a band of fundamentalist American Christians, AND that most Christians on the planet do not think that acknowledgment of scientific facts is a threat to their deity.


Among other classes, I also teach Religions of the World, and just last week in discussion I was reminded that there are people out there who do think that science and religion are the same thing (but fortunately some of them are willing to listen to the reasons why they aren't the same). The old "we should bring prayer back into the schools" canard came up, and when I asked them if they really wanted their kids getting religious instruction from their biology teacher, a few of them did stop to think about the implications.

The creationists have made this a war, but fortunately it's not going entirely in their favor.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,10:41   

I believe that the most appropriate use is 'bless your lil-old heart'

you may insert shriveled up or tiny blackened old or lil-bitty eensy-weensy or whatever.

its all about the punch.  difference between Rudy Lyle and Bela Fleck (one among many)

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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