Kattarina98
Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009
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Joe helps turn UD thread into TARD fest:
"Many genes relatively new, scientists find"
At first I wanted to post links to all the TARD bombs, but there were just too many.
Joe gets caught lying: Joe: Quote | Mung- YECs explain ORFan genes by way of non-random evolution, ie “built-in responses to environmental cues” (Spetner 1997). |
Mung: Quote | Hi Joe, there’s no entry in the index to Spetner’s book for ORFan gene, orphan gene, species-specific gene or taxonomically restricted gene. I’ll re-read the chapter on non-random variation. |
Joe: Quote | So you can’t put 2 and 2 together? :) What part of “built-in responses to environmental cues” can’t produce ORFan genes? |
Mung: Quote | Spetner:
The system turns genes ON or OFF as they are needed, but makes no permanent change in the genome.
– p. 182 |
Joe wins: Quote | It’s as if y6ou have turned into an evo |
gpuccio: Quote | Each de novo gene, if functional and complex, requires the active intervention of a designer for its first appearance. |
Quote | In other cases, the adaptation is probably due to the working of intelligent epigenetic algorithms. |
Piotr (the voice of sanity), asks Joe: Quote | So what’s the age of the Earth and of its biosphere, in your opinion? |
Joe, the eternal chickenshit: Quote | No one knows. You have to know how the earth was formed in order to determine its age and no one knows that. |
Joe has another go at nested hierarchy: Quote | Ya see Piotr evos think that any branching pattern is a nested hierarchy. They also think that descent with modification produces a nested hierarchy. Both are false. |
Piotr explains (still patient even though Joe has called him an ass right at the beginning of the thread): Quote | The null hypothesis about the origin of de novo genes in this case is the random generation of transcribed sequences that accidentally acquire a function, since it makes no arbitrary assumptions and is compatible with known facts (see the article I linked). |
Joe: Quote | I invite you to test that null hypothesis. I also invite you to produce a testable model based on it.
If you either cannot or refuse to we will understand why. |
-------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.
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