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Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,16:57    There are many dark corners of the interwebs that breed creationists. I just came across one and found a lair of Robert Byers. Creation Conversations

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,17:53    Seems to be the place to go if you want the truth about zombies. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2016,09:04    Zombies? That's one thing creationists wouldn't have to worry about.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2016,16:31    Institutionalizing Creationism Sigh -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 10 2016,01:40    Quote (Dr.GH @ June 02 2016,16:57) There are many dark corners of the interwebs that breed creationists. I just came across one and found a lair of Robert Byers. Creation Conversations   Quote This course will equip you to be able to answer questions about evolution and creation regarding the fossil record. ... This course will help you understand why the Bible's claims about the origins of people and living organisms is not refuted by the fossil record. -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2017,22:45    Answers In Genesis (AiG) is conflicted. It would like to keep money that the local municipality, Williamstown, claims in a $0.50/ticket "safety fee" tax, which comes to about $700,000 this year. So it "sold" the Ark Park from a for-profit front corporation to a non-profit religious corporation ... for $10. The state of Kentucky noticed this, and sent notification that the non-profit was not eligible for the $18 million in tax breaks the state had agreed to with the for-profit front corporation. AiG apparently is bright enough to work out that $18M is more than $0.7M, and so have accomplished the "sale" of the Ark Park back to the original for-profit entity. This is apparently done in the fervent hope that Kentucky will simply forget about the spiteful maneuvering that just happened and restore the $18M tax break as if nothing at all happened. News item Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on July 24 2017,22:45 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2017,23:27    It's not wrong if you're Lying For Jesus ™ -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2017,09:26    But are they laying "for" Jesus, or are they using that name as an excuse?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2017,22:19    This isn't exactly news, but it is in the YEC category. I was browsing stuff on my server, and came across a directory of things related to Chuck Maier, a YEC who argued with folks on the SCIENCE Echo on FidoNet. One of the favorite arguments back then was "randomly assembling a specific 100 amino acid protein is too improbable to ever happen". And I had a somewhat different take on a response to that. Quote WR> Simply show that given an individual's WR> genetic material, the odds of any specific person being WR> born are also zero,  going by the terms of the original WR> SciCre argument. The date on that? 1991-09-10. I had known that I had floated something of that sort much later on talk.origins, but had since forgotten just how far back that went. (As an aside, the Compuserve forums are going to be taken offline forever come this December 15th. If anyone has access to the evolution/creation threads there and feels like downloading them, I'd be interested in hosting that as a download.) -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2017,03:56    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 18 2017,22:19) (As an aside, the Compuserve forums are going to be taken offline forever come this December 15th. If anyone has access to the evolution/creation threads there and feels like downloading them, I'd be interested in hosting that as a download.) Did anyone take you up on this?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2017,01:22    Quote (Cubist @ Dec. 16 2017,03:56) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 18 2017,22:19) (As an aside, the Compuserve forums are going to be taken offline forever come this December 15th. If anyone has access to the evolution/creation threads there and feels like downloading them, I'd be interested in hosting that as a download.) Did anyone take you up on this? Nope. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2022,15:03    Turkish Creationist Harun Yahya (Adnan Oktar) receives 8,658 year prison sentences Article on The Mirror Quote A 'sex cult' leader has been sentenced to a record-breaking 8,658 years in prison following a retrial in Turkey for for sexual abuse and attempted espionage. The 66-year-old is known for preaching creationism and conservative values as well as surrounding himself with young women in bikinis or scanty clothes who he calls his “kittens”. Televangelist Adnan Oktar, who also went by the alias Harun Yahya, was jailed last year for a number of crimes including sexual abuse of minors, fraud and attempted political and military espionage. His ruling was overturned but on Wednesday the Istanbul high criminal court handed him and 13 of his associates a sentence of 8,658 years in prison each. Oktar pleaded not guilty and insisted that accusations against him for leading a sex cult were an “urban legend”. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2022,16:16    So they have to make sure that the prison that he's in is still operating for the next several millennia?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2022,17:25    Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 17 2022,16:16) So they have to make sure that the prison that he's in is still operating for the next several millennia? Actuarial tables may indicate otherwise. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2022,07:59    Here's a graphic I made recently, which some people may find useful:

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2022,09:28    Wait, which question is that graph talking about?

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2022,18:50    Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 02 2022,09:28) Wait, which question is that graph talking about?  :D I'm pretty sure you already knew, but for the record: The graph isn't about any one specific question. It's emblematic of the whole entire same data, different interpretation schtick YECs adhere to.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2023,06:04    John Morris, son of Henry Morris and past president of the Institute for Creation Research, has died. The ICR has a notice, though they don't mention a cause of death. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

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