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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,03:26   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 09 2008,05:45)
Would you publish it, if you were PNAS?

No. I'd smile, pin the letter up on the wall of my office and encourage people to laugh at it.

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mharri



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,13:25   

Ah, Conservapedia on Barack Obama.  There are the usual inanities I'd expect to see tossed around, but there was also one that blew my brain.  For support that Sen. Obama would be the first Affirmative Action President, we are given the following, rather surreal, paragraph:
 
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of affirmative action. Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in physics, yet it is claimed that "Obama analyzed and integrated Einstein's theory of relativity, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to gravity, for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'." [58] Obama's "research" for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses[59] on the Constitution.[60]

Not that we can give them credit for creativity: the claim is inexplicably found in the middle of an otherwise normal news article; why it's there is a mystery for another day.  I just found it interesting that Conservapedia cited this claim, noting its absurdity, as if they think someone actually believes it.  Moreover, it is the only evidence they provide in support of a rather insulting claim.  I may be giving too much credit, but I can't imagine someone capable of putting words to a page accepting such a scenario without question; surely this is a prank.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,13:32   

I'd like to see a count of how many articles they have. I glanced around the site but didn't see anything.

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,13:37   

Quote (mharri @ Aug. 09 2008,11:25)
Sen. Obama would be the first Affirmative Action President

Nonsense. He wouldn't be the first. George Bush Jr. was hired as part of a governmental program to give retards jobs.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2008,13:45   

Maybe Shlafly wants to write an article about how Reagan was a Hollywood Celebrity President?

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 11 2008,11:42   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 09 2008,11:37)
Quote (mharri @ Aug. 09 2008,11:25)
Sen. Obama would be the first Affirmative Action President

Nonsense. He wouldn't be the first. George Bush Jr. was hired as part of a governmental program to give retards jobs.

Prior to that, he was admitted to the Texas Air National Guard's elite Party Unit under the Affirmative Action for Rich Sons of Legislators (AARSOL) program.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,01:53   

I really want to know how big Conservapedia is. I didn't expect it to be big enough to have a page on Thomas Kinkade, but here it is. You can tell it wasn't written by me because the phrase "hideous crap" doesn't even appear once.

   
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,06:47   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2008,02:53)
I really want to know how big Conservapedia is. I didn't expect it to be big enough to have a page on Thomas Kinkade, but here it is. You can tell it wasn't written by me because the phrase "hideous crap" doesn't even appear once.

Strange. Conservapedia omitted the following, found on Wikipedia:
 
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The Los Angeles Times report that some of Kinkade's former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work say that he has a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers. The Times further reports that he openly groped a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination.[18] Kinkade denied some of the Times's allegations, but accepted and apologized for others.[19]

In 2006 John Dandois, Media Arts Group executive, recounted a story that on one occasion ("about six years ago") Kinkade became drunk at a Siegfried and Roy magic show in Las Vegas and began shouting "Codpiece! Codpiece!" at the performers. Eventually he was calmed by his mother.[18] Dandois also said of Kinkade, "Thom would be fine, he would be drinking, and then all of a sudden, you couldn't tell where the boundary was, and then he became very incoherent, and he would start cussing and doing a lot of weird stuff."[18]

That's interesting because I was looking at his sentimental dreck and started shouting "Codpiece! Codpiece!" myself.

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steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,09:17   

Number of pages: http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Statistics

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,09:20   

Quote (steve_h @ Aug. 14 2008,09:17)
Number of pages: http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Statistics

Compare that to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics

Harsh!

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,13:30   

from Steve h's link above:

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Most viewed pages

   * Atheism (3,893,746)
   * Main Page (3,286,804)
   * Homosexuality (3,155,947)
   * Wikipedia (525,556)
   * Theory of evolution (337,072)
   * Examples of Bias in Wikipedia (329,137)
   * Ex-homosexuals (321,012)
   * Hillary Rodham Clinton (269,481)
   * Aesthetics (260,630)
   * Unicorn (252,518)


LOL!

   
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,13:55   

Atheism seems to serve as porn for the yeccies. Where's the LOL cat?

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,14:40   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 14 2008,11:55)
Atheism seems to serve as porn for the yeccies. Where's the LOL cat?

Actually, based on Steve's listing, I'd say homosexuality (or, for a small minority, Hilary Rodham Clinton) is serving as porn for the yeccies.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,15:06   

So where's the gay, atheist kittuh pics?

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dnmlthr



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,15:12   

EDIT: Conservapedia has been hijacked by spammers it would seem.

This was the link that I posted:  www.conservapedia.com/Unicorn
Oh my, unicorns!

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The Unicorn is likely purely a mythical beast, commonly depicted as resembling a white horse with a single horn grown out of its forehead


I don't think any further commentary is necessary. Emphasis mine.

Edit: Added link.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,15:17   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 14 2008,15:06)
So where's the gay, atheist kittuh pics?



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,15:56   

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* Aesthetics (260,630)


Is this part of their obsession with teh gays or can they not spell atheists?

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,16:18   

I can't get anywhere on Conservapedia now. I get redirected to some Antivir 64 annoyware page.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,16:28   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2008,16:18)
I can't get anywhere on Conservapedia now. I get redirected to some Antivir 64 annoyware page.

Yeah, my security software popped up a message about antivir64 when I clicked on that link.

  
EyeNoU



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,16:30   

The link in dnmlthr's post about unicorns.

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,16:38   

Same thing here, using Safari. Pretty annoying.

  
dnmlthr



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,16:42   

Indeed, it seems like they've been hijacked by spammers.

According to the WHOIS entry, the domain hasn't expired anyway, and Schlafly's name is still in there as well.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,18:31   

The site is back up.  

I found a cool article discussing Professor values.  The table of contents has 4 items:
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1 Crimes by Professors
2 Immoral, Unethical or Bizarre Behavior
3 References
4 Sources


My, we're a bunch of criminals and perverts!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,18:36   

Quote (olegt @ Aug. 14 2008,19:31)
The site is back up.  

I found a cool article discussing Professor values.  The table of contents has 4 items:
 
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1 Crimes by Professors
2 Immoral, Unethical or Bizarre Behavior
3 References
4 Sources


My, we're a bunch of criminals and perverts!

Yep, expecting people to come to class, take quizzes on time and pass the course.  How eeeeeeeeeevil.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2008,18:43   

I'm always wondering about the percentage of biology teachers convicted of diddling boys, compared to the percentage of clergymen.

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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,09:01   

The entry on Reality contains a hidden gem:
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[Reality] is very well known to have a liberal bias.

Great job, Pepek2008!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,12:45   

Heh, that got snuck in on June 2nd ... hope they don't peek over here and find out about it.  Well done, indeed, Pepek2008!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,13:10   

Quote (olegt @ Aug. 14 2008,16:31)
The site is back up.  

I found a cool article discussing Professor values.  The table of contents has 4 items:
 
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1 Crimes by Professors
2 Immoral, Unethical or Bizarre Behavior
3 References
4 Sources


My, we're a bunch of criminals and perverts!

Hey! Check out two of their examples of "Immoral, Unethical or Bizarre Behavior":

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Richard Lenski of Michigan State University was rude and demeaning when replying to a member of the public who asked about his research.
When challenged to provide data, professors who support evolution evade the question [10]


Awwww.... dose pwofessohs wuh so MEAN to Andy!!!!!!!!  :(

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,14:06   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 15 2008,13:10)
     
Quote (olegt @ Aug. 14 2008,16:31)
The site is back up.  

I found a cool article discussing Professor values.  The table of contents has 4 items...


Awwww.... dose pwofessohs wuh so MEAN to Andy!!!!!!!!  :(

Another of their examples is this one      
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A Kansas university professor, Fort Hays State University debate coach William Shanahan, "is under fire after a video showing him mooning a room full of students and faculty during a heated debate found its way onto YouTube." He "is shown on the video in a profane, in-your-face argument with his counterpart from the University of Pittsburgh ...."Kansas Professor in Trouble for Mooning Incident

Shanahan (like a lot of professors) doesn't fit into their blanket pigeonhole of evil atheistic materialistic islamocommunofascistic professors. He probably would be right at home in Aschlafly's house. He used to write a regular column for the Hays Daily News; here is his contribution from March 2006 (my emphasis).      
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“Science is one ideology among many and should be separated from the state just as religion is now separated from the state.”  Paul Feyerabend, one of the greatest figures in the history and philosophy of science, penned these words in his 1978 classic, Science in a Free Society.

The practitioners of science have become as sanctimonious as the proselytizers of religion.  The most recent clashes over intelligent design in science classrooms reflect a long-held belief that there is some essential difference between science and religion.

Rather, both science and religion are reflections of often deeply felt beliefs that require adherents to take gigantic leaps of faith.  This invalidates neither, nor should it allow privileging one over the other.

Scientific faith is no more secure, no more “correct” than religious faith.  In fact, if belief and faith characterize religion in this country, then science is a religion, albeit one of the best organized and most influential of our contemporary religions.

Science works because its works are scientific.  Science determines, in advance, the terms of its engagement with the world and then extols the results of that engagement, as if something marvelous has taken place.  All religions operate in the exact same way.

The scientific clergy loudly proclaim their faith to be the result of scrupulous inquiry and falsifiable methodology that produces facts.  Even a casual perusal of other religions’ canonical texts and personal testimonies demonstrate the same faith in their proof, the same proof in their faith.

Friedrich Nietzsche, simply the greatest thinker the West has ever known, described these methods somewhat differently.  “If someone hides an object behind a bush, then seeks and finds it there, that seeking and finding is not very laudable . . .”

At the center of the scientific universe still stands the scientist, who invents the machines that measure and prove.  Human scientists observe not worlds, but their own inventions.  Those observations themselves result from senses and brains and bodies far beyond human invention (yet).

Other religions’ followers also employ their bodies to observe, conclude, and prove their religion’s truths.  They experience the world and confirm or derive truths about the world from their experiences, using the same senses, the same brains, and perhaps different tools.

Mormon students with whom I worked in Utah encouraged me to read the last part of the Book of Mormon and to receive a sign from God.  Each had done so and all subsequently received proof of their religious faith from God.

Their method could be replicated and was falsifiable, two criteria often proffered in science to test its methods.  The students did not want me to believe in their truths on faith, like the scientific clergy.  These wonderful students insisted that I test their faith (and I tried).

The history of scientific ideas is a history of revolutions.  Each succeeding generation of revolutionary believers praises their answers as the right answers, even if their answer is relativism.  Their well-meaning, hard-working predecessors were mistaken.  This revolution has finally arrived at some truth.

Somehow still, many high scientific priests and priestesses decry traditional religious faith in favor of their own forms of proof.  In response, Feyerabend’s incisive invective, “the prevalence of science is a threat to democracy.”  Amen!

“A free society,” he argues, “is a society in which all traditions have equal rights and access to the centers of power.”  Not academics, intellectuals, or experts, nor clergy, scientists, and rationalists deserve to decide the standards according to which society’s truths are determined.

Scientific fact, nonetheless, is the benchmark of truth for American democracy.  The scales of justice afford more than a metaphorical glimpse into the workings of our judiciary.  Lives hanging in the balance, ideally tipped by science, are usually upended in accordance with only one truth.  Justice blindfolded herself so she would not have to witness the results.

Ostensibly, Congress also kneels before the scientific altar of truth and fact.  Science is given such unbridled access to national policymakers, even Abramoff would blush.

Tellingly, Christianity today vies for ascendancy to truth for all America and our imperial executive redefines each as it deems fit.

A couple words might anticipate obvious, important rejoinders.  This column, of course, reverses itself in many ways.  For example, traditional religions regularly and similarly deny different scientific religions’ truths. The call for equal access to truth and power is itself biased for freedom truth, and democracy.

That being said, this column also collapses or succeeds according to its own truth bias.  My belief in argument, Feyerabend’s faith in freedom, and Nietzsche’s experience in nihilism are expressions of hard-fought truths, but personal expressions no less.

Intelligent design indeed might represent an urgent threat to our democracy’s separation of church and state.  Science itself poses an even greater threat to democratic freedom.  You do the math.


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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2008,15:15   

I know I am going to sound out of touch, but I didn't know Conservapedia existed. I spent some time browsing, and when I recover from my deep depression I'm gonna move to another country... :(

  
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