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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2006,12:00   

Yep. The liberal media has finally gone nutsville, where The New York Times is the paper of record.

     
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But the Times article, “17 Held in Plot to Bomb Sites in Ontario,” by Ian Austen and David Johnston, is much more remarkable in its politically correct delicacy than Simon lets on. It would be worthwhile to take a look at just how the Times manages to publish an 1,843-word article about a Muslim terrorist ring without ever saying that they are Muslims. The story begins:

OTTAWA, June 3—Seventeen Canadian residents were arrested and charged with plotting to attack targets in southern Ontario with crude but powerful fertilizer bombs, the Canadian authorities said Saturday.

Ok, they were Canadian residents. And who were these Canadian residents? In the sixth paragraph, the Times says that they are mainly of “South Asian descent,” and had no known connection with Al Qaeda:

The 17 men were mainly of South Asian descent and most were in their teens or early 20’s. One of the men was 30 years old and the oldest was 43 years old, police officials said. None of them had any known affiliation with Al Qaeda.

In the seventh paragraph, a Mounted Police assistant commissioner is quoted saying:

“They represent the broad strata of our society. Some are students, some are employed, some are unemployed.”

Students, employed, unemployed—yes, that’s quite a broad stratum, isn’t it? Truly taking in all the elements of society. Fortunately, Malkin lists the 12 of the 17 suspects who are adults:

1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, Toronto;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.

You can see what a remarkably diverse cross section of society is represented here.
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And that’s it. The word “Muslim” appears twice in the article, once to identify a Canadian Muslim organization which is unconnected with the suspects, and once to say that by busting the terrorists, law enforcement has done a great service to the Muslim community. This makes it sound as though the terrorists were threatening the Muslim community. Needless to say, Austen and Johnston do not quote any Canadian personage to the effect that law enforcement has done a great service to Canadian society by busting these Muslim terrorists.
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And that’s it for the word “Islamic,” except for the 34th paragraph, where Fatah, making a point similar to the one I quoted earlier, refers to unspecified “many Islamists,” who, he says, are a danger to other Muslims, not to Canada in general:

“This is the work of people who believe they are victimized when they are not,” Mr. Fatah said. “Many Islamacists are preying on the Islamic community.”

Fatah’s reference to “many Islamists” suggests, without actually saying so, that the 17 suspects are themselves Islamists. And that’s as close as the story gets to the truth.
To sum up, in this 1,843-word article, the word “Muslim” appears twice, variations on the word “Islamic” appear three times, and nowhere do Austen and Johnston plainly identify the suspects as being “Muslims” or “Islamic.”

Try to picture the mental process of these Times reporters as they so carefully and systematically work around the fact that the suspects are Muslims, hinting at it one way, hinting at it another way, coming ever closer in a kind of tease, but never quite stating the truth outright. Such an exercise requires conscious effort, and conscious bad faith.


So true.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2006,13:18   

Paley, aren't you supposed to be out amassing evidence to prove the earth is flat, or something?

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2006,14:41   

A.C.:
   
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Paley, aren't you supposed to be out amassing evidence to prove the earth is flat, or something?

This thread serves its purposes. Speaking of which:
   
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Behind such sad numbers, and in the works of literary geniuses like Vladimir Nabokov, does the reality of human nature lie.  It is all too much for our prim, sissified, feminized, swooning, emoting, mealy-mouthed, litigation-whipped, “diversity”-terrorized, race-and-“gender”-panicked society.  We shudder and turn away, or write an angry email.  The America of 1958, with all its shortcomings, was saltier, wiser, closer to the flesh and the bone and the wet earth, less fearful of itself.  (It was also, according to at least one scholarly study, happier.)

One of the first media sensations ever to impinge upon my consciousness was the visit to Britain by rock star Jerry Lee Lewis  in May 1958, four months before Lolita’s American debut.  This was supposed to be a concert tour, but 22-year-old Jerry had brought his wife Myra along, and the British press got wind of the fact that Myra was only 13.  This wasn’t an unusual thing in the South of that time; Jerry himself had first been wed at 15 (when he already had a drinking problem).  Myra was his third wife, and also his second cousin once removed.   Back then country people grew up fast and close to their kin.  Neither Jerry nor Myra could understand what the fuss was about.  He: “I plumb married the girl, didn’t I?”  She: “Back home you can marry at 10, if you can find a husband.”  (This was not true, even in the South, though Myra likely believed it.  She also, according to the British press, believed in Santa Claus.)  It didn’t help that Jerry’s new record was titled High School Confidential.

How long ago it seems!  Nowadays our kids are financially dependent on us into their mid-twenties, and can’t afford to leave home till they are 35.  Marriage at 13?  Good grief!  And so, while Lolita met with a fair share of disapproval in 1958, and was denounced from many pulpits, I believe its reception would have been much more hostile if it appeared now.  It would also have been differently politicized.  Back then the complaints came mostly from social conservatives, who I imagine would disapprove of Lolita just as strongly today.  The Left, however, almost unanimously championed the book.  Would they still do so?  A woman!  Who was also a child!  Exploited by a man!  And both of them from stifled, self-denying bourgeois backgrounds!  Oh, that evil Patriarchy!  It’s amazing how far this stuff has spread:  There is a strong whiff of it in Azar Nafisi’s memoir Reading Lolita in Tehran  (whose author went to college in the U.S.A.)  

Here you see one of the paradoxes of our strange times.  Our women dress like sluts;  our kids are taught about buggery in elementary school; “wardrobe malfunctions” expose to prime-time TV viewers body parts customarily covered in public since “the lamented end of the Ancient World B.C.” (Humbert);  our colleges have coed bathrooms;  songs about pimps rise to the top of the pop music charts; yet so far as anything to do with the actual reality of actual human nature is concerned, we are as prim and shockable as a bunch of Quaker schoolmarms.  After forty years of lying to ourselves, we are now terrified of the truth.  Which is an unhappy thing, because the truth is bearing down on us fast.

What would Vladimir Nabokov say if he could view our present scene?  I think he would weep.  Political Correctness was only embryonic in the mid-1950s, and Nabokov poked some gentle fun at it in Lolita:

…according to the rules of those American ads where schoolchildren are pictured in a subtle ratio of races, with one—only one, but as cute as they make them—chocolate-colored round-eyed little lad, almost in the very middle of the front row.

He would have been horrified to see how this how these silly but harmless and well-intentioned courtesies have swollen into a monstrous dreary tyranny, shutting off whole territories of speech and thought, acting as a sheet anchor to hold back our commercial and intellectual progress, corrupting our constitutional jurisprudence, turning unscrupulous mountebank attorneys into billionaires, and making art like Nabokov’s incomprehensible to millions who, had they been born a few decades earlier, would have gotten from it such unexpected, unimagined delight as I got among the birdsong and bowlines in the Sea Cadets’ hut at Northampton School for Boys 44 years ago.

That we are stupider, coarser, duller, lazier, narrower of mind, more fearful of strangeness, more abject, and more craven than the Americans of 1958 is bad enough.  What really shows that our civilization is, and richly deserves to be, on its way out, is that we are less able to savor and love a surpassingly beautiful work of art like Lolita.

How ironic that an essay about a pervert (Humbert^2, not Nabokov) illuminates so well the perversity of our own time. I recommend Pale Fire.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2006,14:51   

I'm totally bored of your attempts at psuedo-political idiocy.  I'm still waiting for you to do something interesting with your geocentric model.

why don't you make this thread really useful?

just use it to announce when you've finished your geocentric model.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2006,19:07   

Paley, do you have anything to actually say about your scientific ideas? Because if all you have is rightwing 'culture wars' silliness, we have DaveScot for that...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,10:15   

Interesting post by Steve Sailer on the paradox between Jewish achievement in science, art, and law vs. their embrace of daffy cultural and political trends. Part of it is simply the hyperabundance of ideas flowing from Jewish minds - if you spend enough time formulating hypotheses, some of them are bound to miss:
     
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One of the fascinating aspects of Jewish culture, to me, has been the fact that we are everywhere on the ideological spectrum. The most prominent libertarians? Check. The most prominent communists? Check. The biggest neo-conservatives? Check. The biggest anti-war demonstrators? Check. Josh Marshall and Matthew Yglesias [well, both supported the war back in the beginning] are members of the tribe, but so are Kristol and Podhoretz. One of the reasons why it's so easy to come up with preposterous statements about Jews. in general, is that specific Jews can be found propagating almost any point of view imaginable -- and doing it well enough to be seen as a prominent figure in whatever movement they join.





Indeed. Similarly, the most anti-Communist English-language literary giant of the last 40 years, Tom Stoppard, discovered as a middle-aged man that he's 100% Jewish.

For example, here are two fairly honest depictions of two utopian groups that were diametrically opposed in politics but in which Jews played dominant roles: Students for a Democratic Society and the Ayn Randers:

There seems to be more to the story, however, and Sailer discusses it in some depth. I did find an interesting passage worth sharing:
     
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It's a beautiful trip, full of chalet-like villages nestled in valleys. Churches are everywhere. Windmills circle in the breeze. On the train, everyone's friendly. Americans play video games or yap on cell phones; Germans read books. It's such a civilized country. Sitting on that train, listening to reassuring announcements, I tried to imagine how hard it must have been for German Jews to recognize the early days of you-know-what. Maybe that's why they took so long to get out. Good folks can't turn bad, can they? But they did, and they could again, and so could the Brits, and so could we.

[my emp]

Boy, aint that the truth! Funny thing is, there was a time when Americans would be quietly reading books next to the Germans. But as our society has abandoned one civilisational norm after another, we've reverted to a crude, self-centered ethos that rejects learning, quiet reflection, and respect for other people's rights in favor of an in-your-face brattishness. For example, I remember a time when people actually whispered in public libraries. No longer. Just this minute, I had to tell two gentlemen to take their ringing cell phones and loud conversation elsewhere. They started in on the usual outraged/hustling/angry minority bit but when they saw I wasn't fooled or intimidated, finally lapsed into a surly silence. But they could have just as easily been white --in fact, just the other day I had to shush a white "man" and his son who were noisily arguing about a homework assignment the child had apparently procrastinated on. Germans, appreciate your culture while you still can. Once you lose it, you can't get a new one at the dollar store.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,10:31   

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Paley, do you have anything to actually say about your scientific ideas? Because if all you have is rightwing 'culture wars' silliness, we have DaveScot for that...

Out of curiousity, why bother to respond to him?  He's 'soap-boxing' and wasting bandwidth, apparently because he feels that this is his own personal blog.

He shows about the same level of intellectual acuity as Gribbit.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,11:00   

Hey Rilke's Granddaughter, congratulations on your thesis. It sounds interesting, although I'm sure that some of it would be above my head. But I do object to a few things you said:
   
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Out of curiousity, why bother to respond to him?

Of course, no one is obligated to respond to my posts, but I like to throw out ideas from time to time just 'cause I find it interesting. Notice that I'm confining my politics to this thread so that nobody will be forced to encounter them. Since the Darwinistic mindset influences all aspects of culture, I think that everything's interconnected and therefore this thread is relevant.
 
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He's 'soap-boxing' and wasting bandwidth, apparently because he feels that this is his own personal blog.

He shows about the same level of intellectual acuity as Gribbit.

No, I'm not wasting bandwidth. You'll see how prescient my rants are in 25 - 40 years, and then you'll wish you listened to my advice. I predict that my rants and models will be the only reasons people visit this site 50 years from now. That sounds egotistical but I think that my insights are available to anyone with a clear mind and courageous heart. Just spend some quality time thinking about the future instead of just parroting the catchphrases of the smartset and you can become a true elder. You seem to have the mental and scientific acumen to take that first step.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,11:07   

By the way, I shouldn't have said that my posts would be the only thing of lasting value: AFDave's discussion of the RATE project and some other things will also intrigue future generations. But time is the only true critic of one's ideas....

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,11:27   

Look, I know you're jealous of the attention that Target-Drone Dave is getting, but that's the whole point of a target-drone.

Get over yourself, my child; you're not that important.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,11:55   

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Look, I know you're jealous of the attention that Target-Drone Dave is getting, but that's the whole point of a target-drone.

Isn't it funny how quickly speculation transforms into settled fact in the evo mind? It appears that you're enamored of Number Nine's random guesses, and recognising him as the "alpha male" of your tribe, proceed to parrot his every thought. This is so unworthy of you; I know women are usually timid about proposing uncomfortable ideas, but don't be afraid: think for yourself.
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Get over yourself, my child; you're not that important.

But my ideas are.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,12:11   

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That sounds egotistical but I think that my insights are available to anyone with a clear mind and courageous heart.


more like available to anyone who has smoked too much crack.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,12:14   

Paley, so far your ideas not only are not important, they are not even ideas.
They hardly rise to the level of notion.

Pfeh.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2006,12:19   

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Look, I know you're jealous of the attention that Target-Drone Dave is getting, but that's the whole point of a target-drone.

Isn't it funny how quickly speculation transforms into settled fact in the evo mind? It appears that you're enamored of Number Nine's random guesses, and recognising him as the "alpha male" of your tribe, proceed to parrot his every thought. This is so unworthy of you; I know women are usually timid about proposing uncomfortable ideas, but don't be afraid: think for yourself.
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Get over yourself, my child; you're not that important.

But my ideas are.

Look, Mr. Ectowhisp, when you actually have an idea, you just come and tell us all about it, OK?  Otherwise we'll be watching the amazing entertainment provided by the 2nd Lt. "I lie for God." Dave.

He's got you beat all hollow.

Bye, now.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2006,23:45   

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Isn't it funny how quickly speculation transforms into settled fact in the evo mind?


This from someone who believes Apollo, Voyager and Cassini were faked.

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You'll see how prescient my rants are in 25 - 40 years, and then you'll wish you listened to my advice. I predict that my rants and models will be the only reasons people visit this site 50 years from now.


Erich von Daniken probably thought something similar in the 1970's. I must say, you've got the B-movie mad scientist persona just about perfect.  :D

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,05:45   

Which of your um...ideas will I be reading about in a textbook in 40 years, GoP?

1. The Earth is flat

2. The Earth is the center of the Solar System (well, certainly the textbook will identify it as the Earthal System)

3. Logical argumentation is best advanced through multiple non-sequiters

I think they are all equally likely, so I was wondering which you were really shooting for.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,06:58   

Blipey:
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2. The Earth is the center of the Solar System (well, certainly the textbook will identify it as the Earthal System)

That's one idea, although it will take much more than 40 years to gain acceptance.

Here are some others:

1) The Earth is very young (apprx 6000 years)

2) Our immigration policy is not only counterproductive, but suicidal.

3) Macroevolution is bankrupt

4) The Bible is accurate on historical/scientific issues.

All of these statements will eventually be proven valid. But 40 years is too optimistic for everything except 2).

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,08:27   

Hey GoP:

If you want that geocentric theory in books sooner than later, how about posting the details of your model somewhere.

And, I'm very interested in what you think about the non-sequiter argumentation method.

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The Ghost of Paley



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,09:13   

blipey:
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Hey GoP:

If you want that geocentric theory in books sooner than later, how about posting the details of your model somewhere.


Coming tonight.

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And, I'm very interested in what you think about the non-sequiter argumentation method.

Well, liberals tried it for 40 years and it hasn't worked yet, so maybe it's time to ditch it.  ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,09:30   

You know what's funny about this thread? Even though people have used my politics as a platform to hurl the most disgraceful ad homs imaginable (see the Ann Coulter thread for the latest), not a single person can explain what's wrong with my immigration plan, or even advance a <cough> ghost of a counterargument. It reminds me of a line in a movie:

"That's why he's the best. Nobody ever beats him -- not many want to try."

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,12:57   

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You know what's funny about this thread? Even though people have used my politics as a platform to hurl the most disgraceful ad homs imaginable (see the Ann Coulter thread for the latest), not a single person can explain what's wrong with my immigration plan, or even advance a <cough> ghost of a counterargument.

On the other hand, they sure can find problems with your geocentrism idea (I say "idea" rather than "model," because so far there is no model) faster than you can present even the skeletal features of your idea. Usually, you expect critics to play catch-up with a new theoretical structure, but in this case, the theory is playing catch-up with the criticisms.

I'm guessing you're getting more criticisms on your geocentric thread than your immigration thread because, frankly, it's more entertaining.

Policy wonk-itude, even when it really is wonk-itude, generally isn't a page-turner. Ask Al Gore ("An Inconvenient Truth" notwithstanding).

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2006,13:55   

Well, now a rough sketch to my geocentric model has been posted. I know it's a little exotic, but I wanted to throw out an outline to fill in later as I get the time.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2006,20:07   

Test.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2006,07:28   

Remember guys, all the slander* goes on this thread.





*Stifle yourself, Yenta.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2006,10:02   

Interesting debate on Auster's blog. I find this quote relevant:
 
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Notice how many people see this huge threat from Chistianity? As Ben said, Christianity is on the defense now, and the Fundamentalists are a small fringe group with no great influence. There is a Proverb (28:1): “The wicked man flees though no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion.” The liberal view, which encompasses all sorts of evil, will never rest comfortably, no matter how victorious. Because even with one man resisting liberalism, that one man with God make a majority (to speak in preaching style). It’s as if liberals have this irrepressible sneaking suspicion and fear that, if that one man is right about God, they are all toast.

If you notice, this explains much about the creo-evo debate.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2006,10:07   

Bill,

With the proviso that I get to see your paper on "guts to gametes", you would be very welcome to host a thread on my* blog.

*It remains of course open to all and unmoderated.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2006,07:17   

Alan Fox:
 
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Bill,

With the proviso that I get to see your paper on "guts to gametes", you would be very welcome to host a thread on my* blog.

Thanks. I might just take you up on that. But I need to take care of the current business first. By the way, I find #9's objection to Dave's characterisation of the Wai-Wai tribe very amusing, since we all know that Cultural Anthropology has been a playground for slack-jawed Marxists from the very beginning, regardless of Nine's competence.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2006,05:49   

GoP,

you wrote:

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MT 7:1 Judge not, that ye may not be judged;
MT 7:2 for with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you.
MT 7:3 But why lookest thou on the mote that is in the eye of thy brother, but observest not the beam that is in thine eye?
MT 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Allow [me], I will cast out the mote from thine eye; and behold, the beam is in thine eye?
MT 7:5 Hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine eye, and then thou wilt see clearly to cast out the mote out of the eye of thy brother.


Are you not judging people in this thread?
Isnt the entire point of your post that we should judge our fellow man and pass laws based on those judgements to keep those that we judge 'undesirable' from mucking up our wonderful western world?
We have judged these people and they need to go! Right?
I know you said you would repeal all race laws but you would need new laws delineating who can stay, who goes, the procedures for achieving said goal, right?

Also, was not JC the ultimate liberal?
Turn thy cheek, meek inherits the earth, etc?

I your mind does Jesus carry a sword or an olive branch?
Or both?  
Would Jesus be more likely to vote democrat or republican?
Would Jesus support big coporations that you seem to feel are unjustly vilified by the liberal media ?
Or would he be more likely to speak out against the big boss in favor of the little guy?
Is that a beam in your eye?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2006,05:55   

Crabby on the AFDave Thread:
     
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Deadman, I can understand your rancor at Dave's (barely) covert racism, his "Deadman claims muh Daddy was settin' on the verandah, sippin' mint juleps while darky was totin' dem barge and liftin' dem bales" spiel speaks volumes about his mindset.

Makes you wonder if his Daddy had those Wai Wai sleeping on four slat beds, rising at the crack of dawn, working (and larnin' the "word") 18 hours a day and consuming an 1100 calorie a day diet with no protein till they saw the "light"?

I can just imagine his reaction if one of his kids were to commit an act of miscegenation with one of the "devolved" races.


Crabby, this is disgraceful. AFDave hasn't shown the slightest tinge of bigotry; on the contrary, he spent his childhood playing and interacting with kids from other races. Have you read Dinesh D'Souza's The End of Racism? He shows that racism is a modern secular invention to explain the difference in civilisational achievements among societies. Yes, individuals have used the Bible to justify slavery; but what sets Judeo-Christian society apart is the fact that it ended the practice. Heck, slavery still exists in parts of Africa. Have you read about African chiefs sending delegates to Britain to protest the abolition of this tradition? I'll bet you haven't. Hey Crabby, tell me who said:
     
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"The widespread revulsion which the hideous institution of slavery inspires today was largely confined to Western civilisation a century ago, and a century before that was largely confined to a portion of British society. No one seems interested in the epic story of how this curse that covered the globe and endured for thousands of years was finally gotten rid of by the West - not only in Western societies but in other societies conquered, controlled, or pressured by the West.
The resistance put up by Africans, Asians and Arabs was monumental in defense of slavery, and lasted for more than a century. Only the overwhelming military power of the West enabled it to prevail on this issue, and only the moral outrage of Western peoples kept their government's feet to the fire politically to maintain the pressure against slavery around the world.
Of course, this is not the kind of story that appeals to the multiculturalists. If it had been the other way around - if Asian or African imperialists had stamped out slavery in Europe - it would still be celebrated, in story and song, on campuses across America."


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Thomas Sowell?

  
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