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2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,10:34    Dave: Quote ID simply doesn’t speak to the age of the earth. If you don’t understand that and continue to argue in this vein you’ll be invited to leave. THE AGE OF THE EARTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ID, SO DON'T TALK ABOUT IT!  Now, back to our discussion on the global warming conspiracy... -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,10:36    Nah, don't you see, the existence of peer-reviewed scientific literature is actually one of the great weaknesses of evolutionary theory! IDer's can't understand the articles and are bored by them. Therefore ID wins by default. U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:13    Re: DaveTard's photo- his idea of "boondocks" looks like medium density suburbia, I see no gate or fences.  If the neighbors heard gunshots they certainly would call the cops to come take DT away again. Of course, if DT is a true paranoid, the photo was taken at an unrelated location, the dogs and truck aren't his, and that isn't Dave. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:21    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless... NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. Vicious dogs, Dodge Phallus and man-bra notwithstanding, it's the butterfly landing on the aerial that captures the essence of DT's response. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Bebbo Posts: 161 Joined: Dec. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:26    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless: NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. It's funny that he was going on about his guard dogs then posts a picture of two bored and not particularly vicious looking dogs. Also, judging by the white lines on his feet, Dave is usually a sandal wearer. Not exactly the image of a tough Marine.

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:28    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 26 2007,09:21) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless... NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. Vicious dogs, Dodge Phallus and man-bra notwithstanding, it's the butterfly landing on the aerial that captures the essence of DT's response. Vicious dogs? Damned unlikely. I always get a kick out of the way Dave always goes on about his German Shepherd, which looks like a Shepherd-Lab. I guess labradors aren't manly enough. Blipey could almost certainly walk right up to those dogs with a burger in each hand, tell them to sit, and hand-feed them while Dave stands steaming 20 feet off. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:29    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 26 2007,19:21) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless... NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. Vicious dogs, Dodge Phallus and man-bra notwithstanding, it's the butterfly landing on the aerial that captures the essence of DT's response. oh for....  *excuse me ...adjusts undies* OH FOR CHRISTS SAKES "FUTTERBLIES ON THE NANTENNA"? YOU FRIKKEN HOMOS! CAN'T A MAN HAVE A LITTLE FLAIR? -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:50    On April 15 last, Denyse O'Leary summoned the spirit of George Murphy by misattribution.  He responded thusly,   Quote I have little desire to participate in these discussions but since it was called to my attention that Ms. O’Leary both misrepresented and misunderstood my comments on the ASA list, I should set the record straight. A scant few days later, he makes his farewells, "This blog as a whole reminds me of a bunch of kids playing D & D". William Dembski   Quote George Murphy: Your D&D comment merits a boot. I see subsequently that are claiming to remove yourself from the discussion here. That’s a happy coincidence. Yet to ensure that you don’t change your mind, I’m disabling your posting privileges. (I think in D&D lingo, that means he has to enter the dungeon at a lower level, and he loses his magic sword.) -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:50    I see DT has photoshopped the chainsaws out of his rear window, and the Dembski '08 logo off his shirt. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,11:54    Quote George Murphy: Your D&D comment merits a boot. I see subsequently that are claiming to remove yourself from the discussion here. That’s a happy coincidence. Yet to ensure that you don’t change your mind, I’m disabling your posting privileges. ~So Long, it's been good to know you.~ What's that echo?....echo? -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

fusilier Posts: 252 Joined: Feb. 2003 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,12:01    Supersport coming here?!?!?!  I will lurk no more. SS has posted, over on CARM, that he thinks a coffee enema will cure cancer.  Since he just has a neuroblastoma of the spinal cord, instead of a brain, maybe we could cure the sleazy bastard with a good dose. Wonder if Orac would like to be the PI for the clinical trials? WRT DT's pickemup, that vintage Dodge is not anywhere near 6'5" to the roofline.  Look at those wheels, again; they're stock 15" rims.  The roof height is about 6 foot even. fusilier James 2:24 -------------- fusilier James 2:24

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,12:10    Please also note; Due to the overabundance of flying insects, DT's lower jaw is firmly closed. As are his fists, which due to the recent proximity the "Square eye for a homophobe" team, require him to stop dragging them on the ground for short periods. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Gunthernacus Posts: 235 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,12:35    I grew up in the rural South and I can say, from plenty of experience, that the people who use the term "boondocks" are often the same morons who chainsaw their shade trees, burn off the ground cover hoping to replace it with non-native "lawn" grass - and then bitch about how it's so hot and dusty. Those dogs, far from vicious, look like puppies no more than six or seven months old.  I hope they're getting fed better than cheesy poof crumbs and toe jam. -------------- Given that we are all descended from Adam and Eve...genetic defects as a result of intra-family marriage would not begin to crop up until after the first few dozen generations. - Dr. Hugh Ross

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,12:49    Quote (argystokes @ April 26 2007,11:28) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 26 2007,09:21) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless... NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. Vicious dogs, Dodge Phallus and man-bra notwithstanding, it's the butterfly landing on the aerial that captures the essence of DT's response. Vicious dogs? Damned unlikely. I always get a kick out of the way Dave always goes on about his German Shepherd, which looks like a Shepherd-Lab. I guess labradors aren't manly enough. Blipey could almost certainly walk right up to those dogs with a burger in each hand, tell them to sit, and hand-feed them while Dave stands steaming 20 feet off. I mispoke. I intended "Vicious Dodge, dog phallus and man-bra." -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,12:57    Quote I mispoke. I intended "Vicious Dodge, dog phallus and man-bra." Now, that's funny. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,13:17    Quote (fusilier @ April 26 2007,12:01) WRT DT's pickemup, that vintage Dodge is not anywhere near 6'5" to the roofline.  Look at those wheels, again; they're stock 15" rims.  The roof height is about 6 foot even. I drive a Dodge 2500 also and my stands 6 foot even at the roof line.  However, mine is not 4x4, while Dave's is.  Not sure how much that adds. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,13:34    Quote (carlsonjok @ April 26 2007,13:17)   Quote (fusilier @ April 26 2007,12:01) WRT DT's pickemup, that vintage Dodge is not anywhere near 6'5" to the roofline.  Look at those wheels, again; they're stock 15" rims.  The roof height is about 6 foot even. I drive a Dodge 2500 also and my stands 6 foot even at the roof line.  However, mine is not 4x4, while Dave's is.  Not sure how much that adds. Well, let's see. Dave appears to be at least 2 inches shorter than his big penis truck, but he said he's 6'2". If Dave's truck is 6 inches tall, then he's about 5'10" and lied about his height by 4 inches. If the 4x4 factor raises the truck to 6'2", then Dave is no more than 6 feet even and lied about his height by 2 inches. Darn. We probably can't believe him about those women begging him to sire their children, either.   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,13:44    Why are so many people so jocular about Dave (Springer) Scot? There is nothing too weird about the way he looks. A USA citizen a tad overweight (shock horror). An ID proponent who has lied (shock horror). C'mon. Is anyone really surprised? And what would you have to say if the situation was reversed and some ID suporters' main criticism of a pro-evolutionist was about looks/figure? Yes I know it isn't exactly the same (the fool has said too much shiz for that to aply), just saying.

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,13:57    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,11:44) Why are so many people so jocular about Dave (Springer) Scot? There is nothing too weird about the way he looks. A USA citizen a tad overweight (shock horror). An ID proponent who has lied (shock horror). C'mon. Is anyone really surprised? And what would you have to say if the situation was reversed and some ID suporters' main criticism of a pro-evolutionist was about looks/figure? Yes I know it isn't exactly the same (the fool has said too much shiz for that to aply), just saying. It's the irony of Dave making fat jokes about Ed Brayton, in conjunction with his bragging about his own physical attributes. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,13:58    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 26 2007,11:21) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,09:43) The big picture is priceless... NFL player / middleweight boxer? Some daft redneck with man-boobs. Vicious dogs, Dodge Phallus and man-bra notwithstanding, it's the butterfly landing on the aerial that captures the essence of DT's response. Does the SLT near the lower left corner of the rear window stand for "Second Law Thermodynamics"? -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:03    Quote (argystokes @ April 26 2007,13:57)   Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,11:44) Why are so many people so jocular about Dave (Springer) Scot? There is nothing too weird about the way he looks. A USA citizen a tad overweight (shock horror). An ID proponent who has lied (shock horror). C'mon. Is anyone really surprised? And what would you have to say if the situation was reversed and some ID suporters' main criticism of a pro-evolutionist was about looks/figure? Yes I know it isn't exactly the same (the fool has said too much shiz for that to aply), just saying. It's the irony of Dave making fat jokes about Ed Brayton, in conjunction with his bragging about his own physical attributes. I "kinda" understood that (not the exact target admitedly). It is just that our side now looks no better. It is sillly to ridicule an argument on how your oponent looks unless references are given about their past comments doing the ecact same thing. Maybe you dissagree. EDIT: Dave Tard is a tit! There is no need to stoop to that level to point it out. EDIT2: Sorry for being a boring git.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:09    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,14:03) Quote (argystokes @ April 26 2007,13:57)   Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,11:44) Why are so many people so jocular about Dave (Springer) Scot? There is nothing too weird about the way he looks. A USA citizen a tad overweight (shock horror). An ID proponent who has lied (shock horror). C'mon. Is anyone really surprised? And what would you have to say if the situation was reversed and some ID suporters' main criticism of a pro-evolutionist was about looks/figure? Yes I know it isn't exactly the same (the fool has said too much shiz for that to aply), just saying. It's the irony of Dave making fat jokes about Ed Brayton, in conjunction with his bragging about his own physical attributes. I "kinda" understood that (not the exact target admitedly). It is just that our side now looks no better. It is sillly to ridicule an argument on how your oponent looks unless references are given about their past comments doing the ecact same thing. Maybe you dissagree. EDIT: Dave Tard is a tit! There is no need to stoop to that level to point it out. EDIT2: Sorry for being a boring git. SHUT UP I'M A FRIGGIN ADONIS. WOMEN POSTURE AND FAWN TO RECIEVE MY SEED, ETC ETC. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Gunthernacus Posts: 235 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:11    Quote Why are so many people so jocular about Dave (Springer) Scot? I can't speak for anybody else, but as a repressed eugenicist - seeing a retard like DS on the loose makes my teeth hurt.  For a blowhard of his magnitude, I'm wondering which would require the smaller of instruments - the lobotomy or the castration. -------------- Given that we are all descended from Adam and Eve...genetic defects as a result of intra-family marriage would not begin to crop up until after the first few dozen generations. - Dr. Hugh Ross

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:16    Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,14:03) EDIT: Dave Tard is a tit! There is no need to stoop to that level to point it out. EDIT2: Sorry for being a boring git. DaveScot is not a tit, cuz I like tits, and I do not like DaveScot. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:17    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2007,14:09) SHUT UP I'M A FRIGGIN ADONIS. :angry: WOMEN POSTURE AND FAWN TO RECIEVE MY SEED, ETC ETC. Of course you are. Ya fool! Jog on. EDIT: Eek! Forgot to add. I know you was jesting and so was I. FGS! Someone might take it serious.

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:22    Quote (J-Dog @ April 26 2007,14:16) Quote (Stephen Elliott @ April 26 2007,14:03) EDIT: Dave Tard is a tit! There is no need to stoop to that level to point it out. EDIT2: Sorry for being a boring git. DaveScot is not a tit, cuz I like tits, and I do not like DaveScot. Going back a tad. I also like tits and DS has a #### good pair.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:32    Is it just me or can you see something in the sky behind him? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:44    http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-straws Who's clutching at straws? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that "macroevolution" was usually associated with speciation. If there were two types of grass, one type that used C3 photosynthesis and another that used C4, they would easily be placed into two distinct species. And in the update, how in the #### does that webpage in any way contradict the first paper cited? Basically what the webpage says is that some species of plants within a genus do C3 while others do C4 along with a smattering of hybrids that do both. Other genera have species that can do both too. But again, in what way does this contradict the paper (that says basically the same thing)? And I don't have access to Theory in Biosciences, but something tells me that the authors of the paper cited all the proper literature, including research done by the author of the webpage DS linked to. But you know, it's not like they are going to cite a webpage, DS. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,14:48    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 26 2007,14:32) Is it just me or can you see something in the sky behind him? God Goatse! And Jesus Christ! http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-117864 Quote johnnyb 04/26/2007 1:23 am I wish I had access to this paper. C3/C4 photosynthesis is what Todd Wood has investigated for his models of diversification (see A Baraminological Analysis of Subtribe Flaveriinae (Asteraceae: Helenieae) and the Origin of Biological Complexity. Uh yeah, baraminology? -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 26 2007,15:18    [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/did-the-premier-organization-of-christians-in-science-really-choose-to-target-fellow-chris <br>tians-instead-of-materialism-in-science-apparently-so/#comment-117817]What a pantload[/URL]. Quote I believe the way you tell a true Christian is, simply, by how they treat other people. That’s the most important “fruit” of the gospel. They should take their own advice! Quote (phonon @ April 26 2007,13:48) Uh yeah, baraminology? The NCSE newsletter has two very good articles on baraminology and ANOPA (Anlysis of Pattern) methodolgies of YECs, which I may post about in another thread, as soon as I finish reading them. (Hint: Wood's methodology is exposed for the puerile silliness that it is.) Because I can read anything I want now! School's over, hehehe. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

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