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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,18:20   

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I didn't try to "justify" a thing.  I'm saying that you're all extremely hypocritical.  AtBC members make comments that put Sal's to shame on a routine basis.  Nobody says a thing about their behavior.  Strange.

I defended your use of 'condone' as proper, but if you expect the same for your use of 'justify', you're pissin' up the wrong tree, lady. I guess I'm a hypocrite that way.

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Fixed it for ya.

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,18:22   

The "Recent Comments" sidebar at Young Cosmos is hilarious.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,18:31   

It gets more complex for Sal. Churchill also participated in the eugenics movement, representing England at an international conference on eugenics conducted in London in 1912 (other participants included Charles Darwin's son and Alexander Graham Bell). Churchill was an enthusiastic supporter of eugenics, and reassured one group of eugenicists that Britain's 120,000 "feebleminded" persons "should, if possible, be segregated under proper conditions so that their curse died with them and was not transmitted to future generations."

Onward Christian Britain, eh, Sal?

Moral? "Morals" are rarely as simple as the black hat - white hat picture Sal (and Ftk, since she's about to leap to his defense again) would like.

See: War Against the Weak
By Edwin Black.
2003

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,18:43   

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Ftk, fact is, you're lacking a LOT of knowledge the evolutional theory and Darwinism. Really, a lot, even some mucho importanté basics (like the morality thing). How can we properly discuss this with you then?

Well, young man, a good first step would be to show her the proper respect.



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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,18:49   

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The "Recent Comments" sidebar at Young Cosmos is hilarious.

Yeah it is.

He's so dumb.  

Note to anyone who cares:  Ftk just moved venues over to Pharyngula and started all over again like this discussion never took place.

Funny?  Yes.  Shocking?  Not even a little bit.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:05   

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It gets more complex for Sal. Churchill also participated in the eugenics movement, representing England at an international conference on eugenics conducted in London in 1912 (other participants included Charles Darwin's son and Alexander Graham Bell). Churchill was an enthusiastic supporter of eugenics, and reassured one group of eugenicists that Britain's 120,000 "feebleminded" persons "should, if possible, be segregated under proper conditions so that their curse died with them and was not transmitted to future generations."

Onward Christian Britain, eh, Sal?

Better still:

While a soldier in the 21st Lancers, Churchill participated in the Battle of Omdurman in the Sudan. On August 24, 1898 he wrote to his mother that within 10 days:
 
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"there will be a general action - perhaps a very severe one. I may be killed. I do not think so. But if I am you must avail yourself of the consolations of philosophy and reflect on the utter insignificance of all human beings.

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But I can assure you I do not flinch - though I do not accept the Christian or any other form of religious belief.


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:07   

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It's disgusting to you, Dave.  But, copulation with man, woman (she's bisexual), beast, and relative is okay with Skatje.  So, I'm not sure why Sal is being disgusting.  Are those type of relationships "disgusting", and if so, why?

Discuss....

(sorry Assi, I swear I'll get to you by the end of the day.)

1) It's quote-mining. See the entire post from which Sal quotes, and note that he does not give a link to that post. Perhaps that is because it starts out with this        
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Allow me to first tell you that I personally do not have an interest in bestiality. I don’t support it being legal because I want to hump animals.
And yet Sal's post implies that she would have a collared peccary as a fiance.

2) She's what, 16? Sal should stick to picking on grown-ups like ERV. Of course, I have no doubts that she can eviscerate Sal verbally. But she really shouldn't have to do that.

Sal is disgusting because he is a liar (quote-mining is lying) and because he feels that 16 yr old girls are fair game for "proving" his fantasies about atheists/darwinists/evilutionists. Read that again.  Sal is disgusting. Please quit trying to switch the conversation to a discussion of why (or if) bestiality is disgusting.

Dave,

1.  Sal HT'd me...so that's not quote mining.  I linked to Skatje's *entire* post.  I'll make sure that where he HT'd me the link is accessible for those who don't read the post right before his.

2.  It doesn't matter if Skatje wants to hump animals or not.  The point is that it is completely moral to do so.  

3.  Sal implying that "she would have a collared peccary as a fiance" is humor meant to drive the point home.  For the record, this is not the type of humor I advocate. But, it is interesting to note that your outrage is only displayed when you feel someone from my side has stepped over the line in this way.  For instance, Erasamus's post yesterday was just as outrageous, yet not word from you on that one...interesting.

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RB and I'd like for you et al to consider the following:

The time interval between the Fall and the first time that Adam realizes that he can beat his meat by himself.

The brief interlude between the closing of the doors on the ark and the first time that Noah considered banging one of his daughters, for the first time.

The moments between the first greeting between King David and Johnathan, and the time required for David to reach a full, complete erection.

The number of times Joseph wondered just who in the hell his betrothed wife had been slipping around with.

How many calluses must have been on the palm of Jesus, the virgin haploid redeemer of mankind.  Alternatively, did he never masturbate?  Did Jesus sometimes consider breaking his own rules so that he might relieve a little pressure?  If he didn't, can we say that he is truly human?


Evidently RB (Reciprocating Bill?) helped him with that one and has no problem with it either.

The hypocrisy is rampant at this site.

The fact that Skatje is 17 is irrelevant.  She is an extremely intelligent woman who has put a LOT of thought into these matters.  She's in college and has probably given more thought to these issues than most adults.

Also, Skatje is the daughter of one of the most ardent religion bashers.  It only makes sense to consider the morals of his followers and offspring when considering what our future might look like without religion.

Wow, my dear, you know what - you can just shelve the idea of me participating in that blog diet thingie.

Because I've lost my appetite!

Whatever this ongoing, beyond-ridiculous, and nauseating pettifoggery means to you, obviously to Skatje it means no unnecessary legislation. But by all means, wallow in young earth if you think it so important to your cause.

Tell you what - weighing in. I could be 110 pounds or 310. Keep an "open mind." Goodbye, good luck, and may your God help you. I admit it's beyond me.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:10   

Wowwwwwww!!!!  I get to play the martyr now.  hey FtK I'll scoot over a bit, there is room for you up on my cross.

You are such a fraud that you don't deserve the respect of taking you seriously.  Note that I have very gradually grown to this conclusion, and it is not final.  But, your incapacity to be honest and your desire to flounce in here and vomit some idiocy over a discussion board, then toss your hair and smother a fart and change the subject about 15 times before saying that some subset of folks here are meanies and athiests what don't love the Lard, blah blah blah Jack Kreb's sucks blah blah Sal's not so bad blah blah blah two different interpretations of evidence blah blah blah kids soccer blah rare Fuck or Shit (what's up with that?  that makes me think you are a troll, which would me make like you again) blah blah PZ and Skatje and Dawkins and Hitler and Genghis Khan blah blah blah ad infinitum, has caused me, quite frankly, to conclude that you are not only aware of how stupid you sound but that you see this as some perverse stigmata.

Being an Idiot for Jesus!!!  I'm a Fool For Teh Lard!!1 Gawd is on my side facts be dammed!

So it's my fault, I'm an asshole, while you are honest and have the best of intentions.  Athiests sit down shut up.  As you wish.  I love it so!!!!

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:13   

p.s. it could be that I am both an asshole and completely not an asshole.  After all they are just interpretations of the same evidence right?  Same for you.  It's all just opinion and every man's is as good as every other mans*.

*(but not every womans, read your good New Testament won't you dearie and then perhaps you'll cover your head before you come in this atheist church and you won't be so high and mighty thinking that you can teach mean about things when the bible clearly tells you to Shut It about such manners).

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:14   

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I don't know what's not to agree with in regard to what Sal wrote.  Obviously Skatje finds it morally acceptable to have sex with animals as well as participating in incestuous relationships.  It's written in black and white.  No quote mining necessary.  I find it seriously odd that this is condsidered quote mining.

"Morally" is not discussed. "Legally" is discussed. As noted before, those are not equivalent. Read what people wrote, not what you wish they had written. Thanks.

And where the hell did incest get mentioned favorably in her comments, exactly?

If you don't understand why Sal's use of an excerpt, accompanied by massive doses of innuendo, and free of any link to the entire article where the implications of both the quoted excerpt and his innuendo are explicitly refuted, is NOT quote-mining, then you need a new dictionary as well. This effort by Sal could be a textbook example of quote-mining, and yet you defend it. That goes beyond "seriously odd" and ventures close to "legally blind".

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:15   

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The "Recent Comments" sidebar at Young Cosmos is hilarious.

Yeah it is.

He's so dumb.  

Note to anyone who cares:  Ftk just moved venues over to Pharyngula and started all over again like this discussion never took place.

I don't know why she doesn't just come out and say what she feels: "BUT YOU GUYS ARE ALL ATHIEST'S!!!!!!!!1111!!! THAT MEANS EVERYTHING YOUR SAYING IS WRONG!!!!!!!! WHY CANT YOU SEE THIS????"

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:21   

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The "Recent Comments" sidebar at Young Cosmos is hilarious.

Yeah it is.

He's so dumb.  

Note to anyone who cares:  Ftk just moved venues over to Pharyngula and started all over again like this discussion never took place.

Funny?  Yes.  Shocking?  Not even a little bit.

You can't debunk creationist rubbish, it just changes venue.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,19:39   

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FtK, what you and Slimy Sal are doing is called innuendo and slander. You want to insinuate that the children of Darwinists are immoral who will allow bestiality and incest to run rampant; you want to claim that atheism leads to heinous offenses against civilized culture.

You're wrong. What we'd allow to run rampant is tolerance. That's all Skatje is advocating: that we can't lock people up for non-harmful, private acts. She only opposes bestiality as a crime against animals, and there are already statues in place to handle that.

But yes, you are incredibly creepy. So creepy that if every I were unfortunate enough to meet either you or Slimy Sal in person I would not shake hands with you, unless there was a washroom handy and a bucket of disinfectant available.

It's the dungeon for you. Good riddance.

Posted by: PZ Myers | January 2, 2008 8:30 PM


Anyway, Ftk, if you ever want to continue down this conversational path, I think you should drop the word 'condone.' It has two easily confused definitions (and you've used them both in this conversation - you said you don't condone Sal's post). To me, condone most commonly means "approve of" or "support," which is the second definition in the dictionaries I've looked at, but appears to be the one that most people associate with the word. Skatje's clear that she means that she would tolerate the act, and that's probably the word you should use in the future. Otherwise the comments reek of inappropriate innuendo.

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Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:01   

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The "Recent Comments" sidebar at Young Cosmos is hilarious.

Yeah it is.

He's so dumb.  

Note to anyone who cares:  Ftk just moved venues over to Pharyngula and started all over again like this discussion never took place.

Funny?  Yes.  Shocking?  Not even a little bit.

I'm writing about that at this very moment. FtK has won an award of her own.

Stay tuned.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:02   

I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:06   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

That's where FTK's legendary ability to hold completely contradictory ideas in her head at the same time comes in handy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:07   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

That's where FTK's legendary ability to hold completely contradictory ideas in her head at the same time comes in handy.

Hey, they're both equally valid.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:10   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

That's where FTK's legendary ability to hold completely contradictory ideas in her head at the same time comes in handy.

Hey, they're both equally valid.

I think they're both equally valid, but I'm open to the possibility that one is 10,000 times more valid than the other.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:14   

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I'm a little perplexed that someone who's just had trouble with the definition of the word "condone" would continue using it in the exact same context in a different place.

That's where FTK's legendary ability to hold completely contradictory ideas in her head at the same time comes in handy.

Hey, they're both equally valid.

I think they're both equally valid, but I'm open to the possibility that one is 10,000 times more valid than the other.

Some ideas are more equally valid than others.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,20:50   

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Oh, hell.  Oh, hell. Oh, hell.  Oh, hell.

I'm thinking and my thoughts are becoming a tangled mess.


I couldn't agree more.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:11   

Dave: Here, comment 29.

 
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:31   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

 
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousins.htm

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:31   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

   
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Which goes along with the rest of her post perfectly!  Yay!

So whats your point, FtK?  Did PZ peg ya wrong?  Explain it to us.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:32   

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It's disgusting to you, Dave.  But, copulation with man, woman (she's bisexual), beast, and relative is okay with Skatje.  So, I'm not sure why Sal is being disgusting.  Are those type of relationships "disgusting", and if so, why?

Discuss....

(sorry Assi, I swear I'll get to you by the end of the day.)

1) It's quote-mining. See the entire post from which Sal quotes, and note that he does not give a link to that post. Perhaps that is because it starts out with this          
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Allow me to first tell you that I personally do not have an interest in bestiality. I don’t support it being legal because I want to hump animals.
And yet Sal's post implies that she would have a collared peccary as a fiance.

2) She's what, 16? Sal should stick to picking on grown-ups like ERV. Of course, I have no doubts that she can eviscerate Sal verbally. But she really shouldn't have to do that.

Sal is disgusting because he is a liar (quote-mining is lying) and because he feels that 16 yr old girls are fair game for "proving" his fantasies about atheists/darwinists/evilutionists. Read that again.  Sal is disgusting. Please quit trying to switch the conversation to a discussion of why (or if) bestiality is disgusting.

Dave,

1.  Sal HT'd me...so that's not quote mining.  I linked to Skatje's *entire* post.  I'll make sure that where he HT'd me the link is accessible for those who don't read the post right before his.

2.  It doesn't matter if Skatje wants to hump animals or not.  The point is that it is completely moral to do so.  

3.  Sal implying that "she would have a collared peccary as a fiance" is humor meant to drive the point home.  For the record, this is not the type of humor I advocate. But, it is interesting to note that your outrage is only displayed when you feel someone from my side has stepped over the line in this way.  For instance, Erasamus's post yesterday was just as outrageous, yet not word from you on that one...interesting.

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RB and I'd like for you et al to consider the following:

The time interval between the Fall and the first time that Adam realizes that he can beat his meat by himself.

The brief interlude between the closing of the doors on the ark and the first time that Noah considered banging one of his daughters, for the first time.

The moments between the first greeting between King David and Johnathan, and the time required for David to reach a full, complete erection.

The number of times Joseph wondered just who in the hell his betrothed wife had been slipping around with.

How many calluses must have been on the palm of Jesus, the virgin haploid redeemer of mankind.  Alternatively, did he never masturbate?  Did Jesus sometimes consider breaking his own rules so that he might relieve a little pressure?  If he didn't, can we say that he is truly human?


Evidently RB (Reciprocating Bill?) helped him with that one and has no problem with it either.

The hypocrisy is rampant at this site.

The fact that Skatje is 17 is irrelevant.  She is an extremely intelligent woman who has put a LOT of thought into these matters.  She's in college and has probably given more thought to these issues than most adults.

Also, Skatje is the daughter of one of the most ardent religion bashers.  It only makes sense to consider the morals of his followers and offspring when considering what our future might look like without religion.

Wow, my dear, you know what - you can just shelve the idea of me participating in that blog diet thingie.

Because I've lost my appetite!

Whatever this ongoing, beyond-ridiculous, and nauseating pettifoggery means to you, obviously to Skatje it means no unnecessary legislation. But by all means, wallow in young earth if you think it so important to your cause.

Tell you what - weighing in. I could be 110 pounds or 310. Keep an "open mind." Goodbye, good luck, and may your God help you. I admit it's beyond me.

Good Lord, whatever...

Visiting you people is like taking a step into bizarro world.  Everything I have written about this incident has been absolute fact, and I've linked to prove it every single time.  Skatje wrote that post the first of October, and I've never mentioned it until everyone thought Sal was some kind of demented villian for suggesting that bestiality might be considered acceptable from an evolutionary standpoint.  Of course it is...we are part of the animal world and there is no reason why a person shouldn't engage in that type of behavior *if they want to*.  

If a "creationist" (take Sal for example) had written the post that Skatje wrote on Zoophilia, you guys would have lost your ever loving minds.  That post would have appeared on every one of your blogs and forums, and you'd have talked about it and linked back to it for years.  It would have been linked to *immediately* rather than let it be ignored it for three months.

Kristine, you probably would have linked to it first...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:33   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

     
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Which goes along with the rest of her post perfectly!  Yay!

So whats your point, FtK?  Did PZ peg ya wrong?  Explain it to us.

I know! I know!

"YOU ATHIESTS ARE ALL HORRIBLE WICKED PEOPLE!!! DARWINISM IS WRONG!!!! GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!"

Did I guess right?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:36   

Ftk,

Go lie down and stay away from blogging for a couple of weeks.  You'll be all right.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,21:45   

Jesus, Lady (Jesus-Lady), you are a freak.  

THERE IS NO EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT FROM WHICH MORALS ABOUT HORSE FUCKING OR ANY OTHER KIND OF FUCKING ARE DERIVED

It has nothing to do with it.  it is simple.  You know this, and that makes you a liar.  And a stupid one too, because you can't even keep a straight face while you do it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:09   

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Dave: Here, comment 29.

   
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Of course adults should be allowed to engage in incest. I just personally think breeding would be very bad idea, for obvious reasons.

Good lord, Skatje puts up with some flaming assholes at her blog. I'm amazed that she won't even ban Legion.

I think it's true: I think a certain kind of fundie shithead harasses Skatje because they're too lame to take on PZ, so she's an unthreatening surrogate target.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:17   

For PZ:

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FtK, what you and Slimy Sal are doing is called innuendo and slander. You want to insinuate that the children of Darwinists are immoral who will allow bestiality and incest to run rampant; you want to claim that atheism leads to heinous offenses against civilized culture.


PZ is absolutely wrong.  I’m not insinuating that “Darwinists” are immoral.  I couldn’t possibly insinuate that because I know many, and they are certainly not immoral.  What I am saying is that from an philosophical naturalist’s point of view, there is absolutely no reason why one shouldn’t engage in bestiality and incest if they *want to*.  If those are the “heinous offenses” that he is referring to, then yes, I think that atheists would “condone” such behavior.  He and his daughter obviously believe those private acts are acceptable as long as they aren’t hurting anyone.    

     
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You're wrong. What we'd allow to run rampant is tolerance.


Baloney.  PZ is horrifically intolerant!  His intolerance of religion and anyone who even questions Darwinism is demonstrated on a *daily* basis at his blog.  I can’t even believe he has the audacity to claim that he’d allow tolerance to “run rampant”.  The gall of that man is unbelievable.

     
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That's all Skatje is advocating: that we can't lock people up for non-harmful, private acts. She only opposes bestiality as a crime against animals, and there are already statues in place to handle that.


Skatje went much farther than advocating that it’s okay for it to be legal.  She went as far as stating that this type of relationship with your pet could be very meaningful:

     
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Sexual relationships between humans and animals come as such a shock to people, but it doesn't to me. There can be very deep, meaningful relationships between humans and their pets. Obviously they can't obtain the same level a deep human-to-human relationship, but loving your pets isn't anything unusual. People care for their pets, talk to them, spoil them, feel relaxed in their company, and mourn them when they die. This relationship is so underestimated. Why does it come as a surprise that when someone feels a deep connection to their pet, they might be interesting in doing something more expressive and intimate like we do in human-to-human relationships?


That sure sounds like advocating the experience to me.

     
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But yes, you are incredibly creepy. So creepy that if every I were unfortunate enough to meet either you or Slimy Sal in person I would not shake hands with you, unless there was a washroom handy and a bucket of disinfectant available.


LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2008,22:20   

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LOL, whatever.  I just pray that my children *never*, ever run across a professor like PZ during their college experience.

No doubt they'll be off to Baylor, or Dembski's place.

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