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oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,14:16    Joe, Quote If you want to discuss something with me this is the place to do so. In fact, if you want to discuss something with us then the place to do so is this thread. Funny how the one place not open to censorship in your favour is also the least frequented of all your hangouts. Not that funny at all I suppose. How you liking PT? To your taste? Converted anyone yet? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,15:20    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 31 2010,12:16) Joe, Quote If you want to discuss something with me this is the place to do so. In fact, if you want to discuss something with us then the place to do so is this thread. Funny how the one place not open to censorship in your favour is also the least frequented of all your hangouts. Not that funny at all I suppose. How you liking PT? To your taste? Converted anyone yet? He bailed, actually. I guess no-one took him up on his trolling for hits at his site. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

gravity well Posts: 11 Joined: July 2010 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,16:14    man this guy is worse than useless... oh well... i might as well go back to mornington crescent then...

MichaelJ Posts: 462 Joined: June 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,20:42    Quote (Joe G @ Aug. 01 2010,00:08) Let x = $10 and y = $20 The set {x,y} contains $30 the power set { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} } also contains $30. $30 = $30 Does anyone disagree with that? If you disagree can you provide a valid resource that agrees with you? the fact that you are discussing set-theory and decide that the test for set equilavency is based on adding the items of the set shows how dumb or dishonest you are.

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,23:07    Quote Joe G: And I did find this on power sets: As an example, the power set of {1, 2, 3} is {{1, 2, 3}, {1, 2}, {1, 3}, {2, 3}, {1}, {2}, {3}, ?}. The cardinality of the original set is 3, and the cardinality of the power set is 2[^]3 = 8. This relationship is one of the reasons for the terminology power set. IOW oleg is exposed as an ******* with an agenda for continuing to deny the difference and insist a power set is a set. Yeah, everyone knows that a power set is only a form of set.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 31 2010,23:21    He seems to be confusing a set with the union of the sets that happen to be elements of that set. I don't know if it's even possible for a non-null set to be equal to the union of all its member sets (using the axioms that are more or less standard for set theory, that is). Henry

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2010,00:39    Quote (Henry J @ July 31 2010,23:21) He seems to be confusing a set with the union of the sets that happen to be elements of that set. I don't know if it's even possible for a non-null set to be equal to the union of all its member sets (using the axioms that are more or less standard for set theory, that is). Henry Maybe Joe just uses different axioms. He probably thinks an axiom is the spaceship from Wall-E -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Marion Delgado Posts: 89 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2010,03:37    I was taught in my secular math classes that a power set is a set. But now I know all power is the Lord's.

Zarquon Posts: 71 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2010,04:33    And Lord's belongs to the MCC, So God is an Englishman.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2010,16:17    Quote And Lord's belongs to the MCC, So God is an Englishman. Does that mean that evolution deniers need to learn English? Henry

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2010,21:16    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 01 2010,14:17) Quote And Lord's belongs to the MCC, So God is an Englishman. Does that mean that evolution deniers need to learn English? Henry That would be nice.   Someone would have to print an English<->Gibberish dictionary, though. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,13:05    Quote (socle @ July 30 2010,22:58) [blockquote] Joe G: Let x = $10 and y = $20 The set {x,y} contains $30 the power set { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} } also contains $30. $30 = $30 [/blockquote] I'm a little hazy on my set theory these days, but based on Joe's approach, shouldn't the power set be 60? 'cause I get {{0}, {10}, {20}, {30}} = 60 ...and 60 /=30 -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,13:34    Quote I'm a little hazy on my set theory these days, but based on Joe's approach, shouldn't the power set be 60? Only if you Xerox the {x} and {y} when making the {x,y}, and the Treasury Dept. doesn't like it when people do that.

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,14:16    Quote (Robin @ Aug. 02 2010,13:05) Quote (socle @ July 30 2010,22:58) [blockquote] Joe G: Let x = $10 and y = $20 The set {x,y} contains $30 the power set { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} } also contains $30. $30 = $30 [/blockquote] I'm a little hazy on my set theory these days, but based on Joe's approach, shouldn't the power set be 60? 'cause I get {{0}, {10}, {20}, {30}} = 60 ...and 60 /=30 :O Joe never spelled out precisely how his operation of converting sets to dollar amounts works, so it's not clear.  But yeah, I think $60 would make more sense. His position seems to have changed slightly, though: Quote Sheik:  I think you're learning, Joe, despite yourself. Do you now agreee that {x, y} ? { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} }? Quote Joe:  Hey asshole that has been my position all along.

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,14:19    And the "?" above should actually be a "not equal" symbol.

Mindrover Posts: 65 Joined: April 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,14:48    Quote Joe G: Let x = $10 and y = $20 The set {x,y} contains $30 the power set { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} } also contains $30. $30 = $30     Quote Sheik:  I think you're learning, Joe, despite yourself. Do you now agreee that {x, y} != { {}, {x}, {y}, {x, y} }?     Quote Joe:  Hey asshole that has been my position all along. I can only hope Joe has someone else do his taxes.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,14:50    He uses Smart Taxes: http://www.smartaxes.com/ -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2010,14:54    [quote=Henry J,Aug. 02 2010,13:34][/quote] Quote   Quote I'm a little hazy on my set theory these days, but based on Joe's approach, shouldn't the power set be 60? Only if you Xerox the {x} and {y} when making the {x,y}, and the Treasury Dept. doesn't like it when people do that.  :p Yeah, but that's only if you treat it as an actual set. I got the impression that Joe thought it was a functional condition. ;) -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2010,09:43    Quote I got the impression that Joe thought [...] You did? I had the impression that he avoids doing that... (Did I say that?)

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2010,12:30    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 03 2010,09:43) Quote Quote I got the impression that Joe thought [...] You did? I had the impression that he avoids doing that... (Did I say that?) Oooo...touche! -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2010,10:49    You can tell the no comments is killing him: https://www.blogger.com/comment....4629653 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2010,13:17    Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 04 2010,10:49) You can tell the no comments is killing him: https://www.blogger.com/comment....4629653 Does that count? -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

MichaelJ Posts: 462 Joined: June 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,01:09    I went to his blog and what an absolute train wreck. Are you sure that he isn't eight years old? How about "The Four Fundamental Entities of Intelligent Design" where he thinks that plasma is another Entity apart from energy or matter. This almost cost me a keyboard.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,03:40    Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 05 2010,07:09) I went to his blog... [SNIP] No. Just no. This is what we here call "A Bad Idea". Some of the hardier TARD Miners brave the wilds of the internet to find precious gems of hard TARD. Personally I find the Zen approach to TARD more effective. There is so much TARD around, and so many fine TARD procurers and gatherers (with well shielded keyboards, monitors and irony meters), that the student of TARD never need move from under his metaphorical blossom filled cherry tree, where the calm contemplation of the TARD may occur. This allows the contemplative TARD student to understand the inner TARD, the tao of the TARD. By allowing the TARD to come to me, I may never get the TARD I want, but I always get the TARD I need. Of course if you have a laminated keyboard, waxed monitor, and an Ironymatic 3000 HovindProofed LeadShield™ Osmotron Mark 4 Irony Meter (buried in the appropriate irony bunker of course) then feel free to venture to these blogs. Frankly, I gave up going to these places after my fourth irony meter spontaneously combusted. I even went into irony meter design for a while, it's just not worth the effort. Louis -------------- Bye.

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,09:11    [quote=Louis,Aug. 05 2010,03:40][/quote] Quote No. Just no. This is what we here call "A Bad Idea". Frankly, I gave up going to these places after my fourth irony meter spontaneously combusted. I even went into irony meter design for a while, it's just not worth the effort. Louis I'm with you, Louis. I confess, I just can't do it anymore. When I read just the first line of any blog post from anyone of those tard clowns, I immediately feel like I tripped and feel in poo. It just stinks and I get revolted. I'm sure I need to learn to appreciate it in a different light - seeing it more like comical farce and old slapstick - but I think that takes time. I with you Louis - the view from under the blossom-laden tree with the the lovely fresh air and a good glass of wine is just fine, thank you. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,09:35    Quote (Louis @ Aug. 05 2010,01:40) Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 05 2010,07:09) I went to his blog... [SNIP] No. Just no. This is what we here call "A Bad Idea". Some of the hardier TARD Miners ... Louis So MichaelJ was the TARDcanary? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,09:47    I've paid the price. "When you look into a TARDbyss, the TARDbyss also looks into you" But, the gems I've found, and brought here - that's got to count for something...   -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

SLP Posts: 136 Joined: Dec. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,11:00    Joey claims: Quote With that said to measure biological information, ie biological specification, all you have to do is count the coding nucleotides of the genes involved for that functioning system and then multiply by 2 (four possible nucleotides = 2^2). So, by this measure, there is  no such thing as an 'original' gene and a mutated one with less information. I wonder if little Joey considered that he just shot down a major YEC/ID claim?

Gunthernacus Posts: 235 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,11:30    Quote (SLP @ Aug. 05 2010,12:00) Joey claims:   Quote With that said to measure biological information, ie biological specification, all you have to do is count the coding nucleotides of the genes involved for that functioning system and then multiply by 2 (four possible nucleotides = 2^2). So, by this measure, there is  no such thing as an 'original' gene and a mutated one with less information. I wonder if little Joey considered that he just shot down a major YEC/ID claim? For a case like that, I think his reasonable request is simply for a live video feed of any mutation as it takes place along with a notarized affidavit from the Teh Designer waiving all purposeful intentions to said mutation. -------------- Given that we are all descended from Adam and Eve...genetic defects as a result of intra-family marriage would not begin to crop up until after the first few dozen generations. - Dr. Hugh Ross

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2010,11:46    Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 05 2010,15:47) I've paid the price. "When you look into a TARDbyss, the TARDbyss also looks into you" But, the gems I've found, and brought here - that's got to count for something...  ??? Well you do get those big, big TARD bucks. And the exposure to TARD has exfoliated you brilliantly, you look 20 years younger. No, really. You do. Louis -------------- Bye.

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