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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,10:05   

Barry Arrogant is now getting into the subjectivist/objectivist "debate"

Barry Arrogant

Followed by another FYI-FTR by
Sermon from the mount by Gordon (Kairosfocus) Mullings

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,10:08   

I really should have written that formatting script pulgin for UD years ago when i thought about it. Instead, I'm left wondering whether to bother formatting this crap:

"FYI-FTR: CF and Mark Victor Tushne on “victory” in the culture wars
June 1, 2016 Posted by kairosfocus under Atheism, Darwinist rhetorical tactics, Evolutionary materialism's amorality, FYI-FTR, Geo-strategic issues, Politics/policy and origins issues, Science, worldview issues/foundations and society
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In WJM’s still very active Subjectivism privilege thread — and in response to my citing Plato’s warning on radical relativist amorality, factionalism and nihilism in The Laws Bk X, CF has recently gloated (cf 417):

“Frankly, I am glad that the type of prurient, judgemental morality that you worship

[–> yes, we catch the implicit, Lewontin-style a priori,  self-referentially incoherent and amoral evo mat scientism based atheism and/or fellow traveller ideologies]

is dying out.”"

Edited by stevestory on June 01 2016,11:08

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,10:10   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,10:35   

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clown fishJune 1, 2016 at 9:27 am
Kairosfocus: “Evidence: http://www.uncommondescent.com…..ture-wars/”[.......[....I]

Scripture, quotes from philosophers, your opinion and poorly drafted graphics do not constitute evidence.


linky

Edited by stevestory on June 01 2016,11:35

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,11:58   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

So, they have basically converted centuries of culture and governmental inertia into a Risk game.

I think (meaning "I know, but I'm humble enough to realize I might be wrong) that their issue remains an inability to understand extremely complex things, change those complex things to simple things that they can understand, view those simple things only from their POV, and then freak out because they think the world is freaking out.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,12:57   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

So, they have basically converted centuries of culture and governmental inertia into a Risk game.

I think (meaning "I know, but I'm humble enough to realize I might be wrong) that their issue remains an inability to understand extremely complex things, change those complex things to simple things that they can understand, view those simple things only from their POV, and then freak out because they think the world is freaking out.

He's got this spread out on the dining-room table, hasn't he?  With little model ships and tanks.

I see the Denmark Strait is a "sea trade choke point".  Fiendish Johnny Muslim wants to cut off Baffin Island from Svalbard.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,13:15   

I want a poster-sized version of that "graphic" on my wall with a lighting scheme connected to my alarm clock, so I start every day by seeing that thing and laughing myself into tears.  :D

Edited by stevestory on June 01 2016,14:18

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,13:17   

"Russia is a wild card"


   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,13:25   

I like how the russian arrows are purple for no apparent reason.

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,13:47   

Clown Fish
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Kairosfocus: “CF, divide, polarise, denigrate, dismiss without dealing with substance. Typical. KF

When you start presenting anything with substance, I will respond appropriately to it. So far you have presented scripture, quotes from philosophers (some of them dead for centuries), your own assertions presented as if they were facts, and poor quality graphics, and warnings of us going over the cliff to a broken back.

After the thousands of words that you have written, you have still failed to demonstrate how what you refer to as objective morality is in any way distinguishable from subjective morality. Waving this off as free will or differing views on moral values does not solve the problem.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,15:54   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

So, they have basically converted centuries of culture and governmental inertia into a Risk game.

I think (meaning "I know, but I'm humble enough to realize I might be wrong) that their issue remains an inability to understand extremely complex things, change those complex things to simple things that they can understand, view those simple things only from their POV, and then freak out because they think the world is freaking out.

He's got this spread out on the dining-room table, hasn't he?  With little model ships and tanks.

I see the Denmark Strait is a "sea trade choke point".  Fiendish Johnny Muslim wants to cut off Baffin Island from Svalbard.

I imagine he has it pinned to the wall along with lots of pieces of multi-colored string and newspaper clippings.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,15:58   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,16:16   

in case anybody wants a blank from the page Gordon got that map:



   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,16:52   

Granny's got a new book!  
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The promised “Theological Supplement” is now a Wipf and Stock book, Christianity for Doubters. My former Methodist pastor wrote an endorsement for the book which said “If non-believers could learn about Christianity from this book, there would be a lot more believers in the world.”
I'm sure there would be.

Link

P.S. Comments are turned off, of course.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,17:31   

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Granny's got a new book!  
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The promised “Theological Supplement” is now a Wipf and Stock book, Christianity for Doubters. My former Methodist pastor wrote an endorsement for the book which said “If non-believers could learn about Christianity from this book, there would be a lot more believers in the world.”
I'm sure there would be.

Link

P.S. Comments are turned off, of course.

I'm so glad that they're not closing themselves off to arguments for unintelligent evolution:

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The truth is exactly the opposite. In a June 15, 2012 post at Evolution News and Views, Max Planck Institute biologist W.E. Loennig said “Normally the better your arguments are, the more people open their minds to your theory, but with ID, the better your arguments are, the more they close their minds, and the angrier they become. This is science upside down.” The case for Darwinism is weaker every day, and yet Darwinist rhetoric only becomes stronger and angrier; clearly this theory draws its power not so much from scientific evidence as from philosophical and religious convictions. If you really examine the reasons scientists support Darwinism, I believe you will find in most cases that they are philosophical and theological.


Uh, yeah, it's those "Darwinists," most of whom are barely even aware of lying dumbshits like Sewell.

But if they got a speck of self-awareness, they'd feel like offing themselves.  Hence, it's them, not us.

Glen Davidson

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,17:46   

Quote (Zachriel @ June 01 2016,13:58)
We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

Not Mornington Crescent again...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,19:12   

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clown fishJune 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm
KairosFocus: “the facts are plain, given for instance my racial background.”

Your narcissism is showing. Given my pseudonym, what race am I? What sex am I? What age am I? What skin colour do I have (hint, it is not orange and white)?

How the hell would I know what race you are? From your comments, I can infer your religion, but how would anyone know your skin colour from your comments? You really have to get over your self importance.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,19:23   

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We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

Not Mornington Crescent again...

There's a thread for that.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,19:37   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....9_up02Y

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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,20:48   

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clown fishJune 1, 2016 at 7:45 pm
KairosFocus: “The perversion of marriage, sex and family under false colour of law are all seriously morally dubious behaviours, and bear no comparison whatsoever to race.

Really? What were these arguments made to try to prevent? I numbered them to keep in the spirit of our discussions.

1 –> “They cannot possibly have any progeny, and such a fact sufficiently justifies” not allowing their marriage.”

2 –> “This relationship “is not only unnatural, but is always productive of deplorable results … [Their children turn out] generally effeminate … [their relationship is] productive of evil.”

3 –> “State legislators spoke out against such an “abominable” type of relationship, warning that it will eventually “pollute” America.”

4 –> ““It not only is a complete undermining of … the hope of future generations, but it completely begins to see our society break down … It literally is a threat to the nation’s survival in the long run.”

5 –> “This type of marriage is not allowed “because natural instinct revolts at it as wrong.”

6 –> “This type of marriage is “regarded as unnatural and immoral.”

7 –> “This type of relationship is “distasteful to our people, and unfit to produce.” Such marriages would lead to “a calamity full of the saddest and gloomiest portent to the generations that are to come after us.”

8 –> “Although there is no verse in the Bible that dogmatically says [this marriage should not occur], the whole plan of God as He has dealt with [humanity] down through the ages indicates that [this] marriage is not best for man.”

9 –> “I believe that the tendency to classify all persons who oppose [this type of relationship] as ‘prejudiced’ is in itself a prejudice,” a psychologist submitted to the court. “Nothing of any significance is gained by such a marriage.”

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 01 2016,22:37   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

I'm sorry but none of those moves are valid because they do not intersect the Bakerloo Line at any point, which means:

Mornington Crescent!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,02:58   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

We're going to put our armies in Kamchatka, then when they land on Park Place, Steiner's assault will bingo their trump. It will be checkmate and we'll retire to Millionaire Estates.

I'm sorry but none of those moves are valid because they do not intersect the Bakerloo Line at any point, which means:

Mornington Crescent!

You can't do that, not when IslamISM is wild.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,03:20   

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it's just a whole messa tard.

So, they have basically converted centuries of culture and governmental inertia into a Risk game.

I think (meaning "I know, but I'm humble enough to realize I might be wrong) that their issue remains an inability to understand extremely complex things, change those complex things to simple things that they can understand, view those simple things only from their POV, and then freak out because they think the world is freaking out.

He's got this spread out on the dining-room table, hasn't he?  With little model ships and tanks.

I see the Denmark Strait is a "sea trade choke point".  Fiendish Johnny Muslim wants to cut off Baffin Island from Svalbard.

I like how one of those ominous red IslamISM arrows is headed almost straight for Montserrat.
And another looks to be headed toward South Dakota, home to the HQ of...Team America!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,08:01   

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Seversky: Or are you that far gone that you think American football was divinely ordained?

Obviously, Seversky has never been to Texas. Obviously.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,08:04   

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Barry Arrington: There you go using that word “terrible” as if it means that the Nazis were objectively terrible. But if morality is in the eye of the beholder, then when the Nazis beheld their death camps they beheld a moral enterprise.

Well, yes. They did.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,08:41   

Gordon (KairosFocus) Mullings has delivered another one of his "THE END IS NEAR" rants about same sex marriage.
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wrenching a term like marriage out of its natural context and imposing a distortion under false colour of law has not created a new form of marriage. It only reveals that those who do it are in the grips of a nominalism that cannot recognise the manifestly evident core principles of the moral laws of our nature.

That extreme nominalism then leads to an attempt to impose the notion that might and manipulation make ‘right,’ ‘truth,’ ‘value,’ ‘meaning,’ ‘sex,’ etc under false colour of law. This is nihilistic lawfare.

The only limit for the moment to such a process in the minds of those caught up in this, is what they think they can get away with for the moment.

The watershed-wedge is at work, the divide, polarise and ruin dynamic is underway, and the end of this is a shatteringly hard impact with rock-bottom reality.

In the meanwhile, it is manifest that marriage does not mean what is being imposed at the point of the usurped sword of justice, but the corruption of society, media, education, courts and parliaments to achieve this points to the ruin of our civilisation. As the very simple fact that only yesterday, such was only whispered in the corners of radical advocacy itself indicates: this is nothing connected to the nature of persons [utterly unlike racial characteristics such as skin colour and hair texture or facial features], it is a matter of institutionalising corrupt behaviour under false colour of law.

This is the hijacking of a genuine reform based on manifest principles of the natural moral law, so that what cannot stand on its own two feet can domineer and ride in a bizarre piggyback that gives it a false colour of legitimacy.

Shameless, cynical and utterly disgraceful.

Heedless wrecking of our civilisation.

But then in the minds of those caught up in the red, double green de facto alliance, Western Civilisation is the problem. What is wrong with the world.

They do not realise the matches they are playing with, or the geostrategic consequences, nor do they care.

Reason is dead, rage running amok through lawfare is the engine, agit-prop manipulation is the driver.

The juggernaut is rolling.

Let us again hear cultural marxist strategic thinker and Harvard Law professor Mark Tushnet on where the agenda is going:

Insert the obligatory cut-and-paste here.
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Ruthless, nihilistic, abusive factionalism that does not hesitate before usurping the sword of justice.

Heedless, that such is headed for an awful crash.

Behind, lies the growing legacy of the manipulation of the same institutions and the same deadening of conscience — the guide and guard of reason — in order to effect a situation where under false colour of law upwards of 50 million unborn children are slaughtered every year, in the worst holocaust in history. To see, just multiply that number by 40 years, and then by 1/2 to account for growth. Of this some 60 millions are the American “contribution,” half a generation killed in the womb.

Ask yourself, why is it that such matters are almost totally absent from the headlines.

Think, about what that tells us on how our major media — eyes and ears of the community — are utterly riddled with corrupt, cynical agit prop agendas and tactics.

Then, ponder how bloodguilt is on massive evidence of history the most corrupting influence of all.

Ponder, how such bloodguilt is now widely pervasive across our whole civilisation.

Look, at how language is corrupted to carry it forward: ‘reproductive rights,’ ‘choice’ and more.

Ponder, how law has been corrupted and how lawfare has been let loose in defence of a gross evil against the first right of all, life.

Ponder, how corrupt our governments have necessarily become as a consequence.

Then, it is no wonder at all to see that other things are being subjected to the same conscience-benumbed cynical nihilistic nominalism under false colour of law.

Other points follow in the same vein.

This will not end well.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,09:32   

Is this UncommonDescent.com or Nature.com? It's so hard to tell!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,09:39   

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Is this UncommonDescent.com or Nature.com? It's so hard to tell!

Or BatshitCrazy.com

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,09:53   

we should find a vein of Gordon and run it through a word cloud generator.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 02 2016,10:29   

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we should find a vein of Gordon and run it through a word cloud generator.

You'd probably end up with a nuée ardente.

  
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