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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,05:12   

lol, that's too funny.

I'm expecting a quiz in Biology this morning, based on the amount of time passed since our last one. I figure it'll be on the parts of the cell and their functions.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,09:22   

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lol, that's too funny.

I'm expecting a quiz in Biology this morning, based on the amount of time passed since our last one. I figure it'll be on the parts of the cell and their functions.

I was wrong, no quiz.

Cool lecture, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,11:38   



My notes and thoughts from Biology 111 Lab, for Monday, September 15, 2008. The entire series can be found here.

In this lab, we learned to use reagents to test for the presence of proteins, starch, and sugars, using distilled water as a negative control.

Since distilled water should be straight H2O and nothing else, each time we did a test, we could see what the reagent did in solution without the presence of whatever it was we were testing for.

We worked in groups, and our group consisted of four students.

  • A. In the first experiment, we tested for the presence of proteins with Biuret reagent, a highly corrosive blue/purply substance. Our Lab Manual and Doc each warned us about its potential hazards, safety precautions, and what to do if we got it on our skin.

    We marked four test tubes at the 1 cm level.

    • Test tube 1 we filled to the mark with distilled water. We then added about 5 drops of Biuret reagent. The water turned light blue. This was our negative control to which we could compare the other tubes when the Biuret reagent was added.

    • Test tube 2 we filled to the mark with Albumin solution. We then added about 5 drops of Biuret reagent. The solution turned a purple color, indicating the presence of proteins.

    • Test tube 3 we filled to the mark with Pepsin solution. We then added about 5 drops of Biuret reagent. The solution turned a pinkish/purple color, indicating the presence of peptides.

    • Test tube 4 we filled to the mark with Starch solution. We then added about 5 drops of Biuret reagent. The solution turned a light blue color, indicating the absence of proteins and peptides.


  • B. In the second experiment, we tested for the presence of starch with iodine.

    We marked five test tubes at the 1 cm level.

    • Test tube 1 we filled to the mark with distilled water. We then added about 5 drops of iodine solution. The water turned orange. This was our negative control to which we could compare the other tubes when the idodine solution was added.

    • Test tube 2 we filled to the mark with 1% starch solution. We then added about 5 drops of iodine. The solution turned a black color, indicating the presence of starch (duh). This was our positive control to which we could compare the other tubes when the iodine solution was added.

    • Test tube 3 we filled to the mark with onion juice that we extracted by mortar and pestle. We then added about 5 drops of iodine solution. The solution turned an orange color, indicating the absence of starch.

    • Test tube 4 we filled to the mark with potato juice that we extracted by mortar and pestle. We then added about 5 drops of iodine solution. The solution turned a black color, indicating the presence of starch.

    • Test tube 5 we filled to the mark with glucose solution. We then added about 5 drops of iodine solution. The solution turned an orange color, indicating the absence of starch.


  • C. In the third experiment, we tested for sugars (monosaccharides, specifically) with Benedict's reagent and heat.

    We marked five test tubes at the 1 cm level.

    • Test tube 1 we filled to the mark with distilled water. We then added about 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated in a boiling water bath for 10 minutes. The solution turned a very pale light blue.

    • Test tube 2 we filled to the mark with glucose solution. We then added about 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated in a boiling water bath for 10 minutes. The solution turned a pumpkin orange color, indicating a high concentration of monosaccharides.

    • Test tube 3 we filled to the mark with onion juice. We then added about 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated in a boiling water bath for 10 minutes. The solution turned a yellow/orange color, indicating a moderate concentration of monosaccharides.

    • Test tube 4 we filled to the mark with potato juice. We then added about 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated in a boiling water bath for 10 minutes. The solution turned a green color, indicating a low concentration of monosaccharides.

    • Test tube 5 we filled to the mark with starch suspension. We then added about 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated in a boiling water bath for 10 minutes. The solution turned a very pale light blue, indicating the absence of monosaccharides.


  • D. In the fourth experiment, we tested for starch, with 1% Amylase solution, Benedict's reagent, and heat. The point was to show that starch contains sugar. (Amylase ends in -ase, and as we remember from our earlier lecture, that means it's an enzyme that breaks down sugar through the process of hydrolysis. In this case, amylase breaks down starch to disassociative maltose. Presumably, the heat pushes the hydrolysis of maltose into glucose?)

    We marked two test tubes at the 2 cm, 4 cm, and 6 cm levels.

    • Test tube 1 we filled to the 2 cm mark with distilled water and to the 4 cm mark with 1% amylase. We then corked and shook the tube, and waited 30 minutes. At the end of 30 minutes, we noted the color of the solution and added 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated for 10 minutes. The solution did not change color.

    • Test tube 2 we filled to the 2 cm mark with starch suspension and to the 4 cm mark with 1% amylase. We then corked and shook the tube, and waited 30 minutes. At the end of 30 minutes, we noted the color of the solution and added 5 drops of Benedict's reagent and heated for 10 minutes. The solution turned a green color, indicating the presence of a low concentration of monosaccharides.


  • E. In the fifth experiment, we experimented with the emulsification of lipids using Sudan IV.

    We marked two test tubes, the first at the 3 cm and 4 cm levels, and the second at the 2 cm, 3 cm, and 4 cm levels.

    • Test tube 1 we filled to the 3 cm mark with distilled water and the 4 cm mark with vegetable oil. We then shook the tube and observed the behavior of the liquid, watching it separate and not become a solution.

    • Test tube 2 we filled to the 2 cm mark with water, to the 3 cm mark with vegetable oil, and to the 4 cm mark with Sudan IV. We then shook the tube and observed the behavior of the liquid, watching it take much longer to separate. The Sudan IV seemed to retard the separation process quite a bit.


We then discussed the results of our testing and the lab ended.

     
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Edited to change an onion into a potato.

Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 26 2008,15:04

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,13:12   



My notes and thoughts from Biology 111, for Friday, September 19, 2008. The entire series can be found here.

As we took our first exam on Wednesday, September 17, there was no lecture for that day.

We took the first part of class to go over the exam results. I had left the exam feeling very good, figuring I was unsure about and may have missed two or three questions. Turns out, I missed eight.

Damn.

Out of 64 students in 3 sections, the highest score was a 91, the lowest a 29, and the median 67. I scored an 88.

Doc said not to sweat it too much, as the first exam is the one everyone does a little less well on, unfamiliar territory, etc., and he drops the lowest exam score.

I was rather surprised at about 5 of my 8 incorrect answers, thinking to myself, "What the hell were you thinking???? You know better than that!!!" I really pulled some dumb answers from out of my butt to very simple answers.

One of my incorrect answers though, was the molecular formula of maltose (two glucose molecules bonded together). Now, without thinking, I simply answered with double the formula of glucose, stupidly forgetting to subtract the water molecule from the hydrolysis synthesis that is required to form maltose from two glucose molecules (or any disaccharide from two monosaccharides).

Hence the unforgettable graphic I made subsequently. After making that animation, I will never repeat that mistake.

After going over the exam, we moved on to Chapter 6 - A Tour of the Cell.

Cell Theory

In 1839 Matthias Jakob Schleiden and Theodor Schwann each independently formulated the basic tenet of cell theory, Schleiden working with plants and Schwann working with animals.

All living things are composed of one (unicellular organisms) or more (multicellular organisms) cells.

Since a unicellular living thing is made up of just one cell (duh), it means that a cell is a living thing.

The cell is the basic unit of structure and function of all living things.

What is a cell?

Robert Hooke gave us the term "cell". Looking at the bark of a dead oak tree under a microscope, he observed that the structure he saw looked like little rooms, or cells.

A cell is defined by its plasma membrane, the outer bound that separates the non-living extracellular fluid (ECF - mostly water) from the intracellular fluid (ICF - also mostly water) inside the living cell. The ICF is made up of cytosol, a thick syrupy water solution containing proteins etc.

A cell must exist in ECF, or it will die. As an example, Doc pointed out that the upper layer of skin cells on the body are dead cells, as they are exposed to the air.

Way back in the beginning of the class, one of the properties we said helped to define living things was the need for nutrients and the production of waste. The cell, being a living thing, does indeed require nutrients and produces waste, in an exchange across the plasma membrane between the ECF and the ICF.

A cell must have operating instructions. Those instructions are in the form of a chromosome, and a cell must have at least one chromosome. (Humans have 23 pairs of them.) The instructions are instructions for making proteins. Those proteins are made by ribosomes (though I'm not entirely sure I caught exactly what the doc was saying here, and may have muffed that - corrections welcome).

Doc then drew up our tree again, labeling domains and pointing out how we know that the cell nucleus came after the split off of Bacteria and Archaea.



We ran out of time and had to pick up the differences between Prokarya and Eukarya on Monday.

   
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Other images by me and are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution- NonCommercial- Share Alike 3.0 License.


Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 26 2008,15:08

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,14:00   

Failing to follow my own advice, here's a question for the chemists on the forum...

What is the molecular basis for the color change seen when iodine is added to starch or cellulose?

We do this iodine test in our class too; coincidentally we did it just today. But when a student asked me how that worked, I couldn't answer. Google has been marginally useful; there is the most informative link that I've found so far.

If you know the answer, and can deliver it at a level that a college freshman accounting major might understand, I'd like to hear it!

thanks

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,15:57   

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Evilution disproofed!!111!!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,18:13   

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Failing to follow my own advice, here's a question for the chemists on the forum...

What is the molecular basis for the color change seen when iodine is added to starch or cellulose?

We do this iodine test in our class too; coincidentally we did it just today. But when a student asked me how that worked, I couldn't answer. Google has been marginally useful; there is the most informative link that I've found so far.

If you know the answer, and can deliver it at a level that a college freshman accounting major might understand, I'd like to hear it!

thanks

I'll be on the case tomorrow!

Not only that, the post about bonding etc should be forthcoming. If not fifthcoming.

I are currently drunk, therefore not going to attempt it.

Will I be allowed to use words like "hypervalent" and "oxidation state"?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,18:14   

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Evilution disproofed!!111!!!!

Naaaah that's macro(biotic)evolution proofederised!

Onion into potato is the same as cat into dog.

Whaddya mean it's still a vegetable?

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,18:30   

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Will I be allowed to use words like "hypervalent" and "oxidation state"?

Only if you define them first.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,18:48   

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Will I be allowed to use words like "hypervalent" and "oxidation state"?

Only if you define them first.

As Louis is currently in the process of making himself hypervalent, it may be necessary for someone to check his oxidation state before he is allowed to drive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,19:18   

Words matter. I used 'Peanut Butter Jars' once and my prof called me on the phone to tell me that I needed to retype the page (before computers) and they were 'liter flasks'.

He was a little bit upset at my transgression.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,20:34   

As I recall, "oxidation state" is the number of electrons at atom has donated to other atoms in the molecule.

In H2O for example, each H has an oxidation state of +1, and the O has state -2.

It's sort of like saying what the charge would be if the covalent bonds were ionic instead of covalent.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 26 2008,21:33   

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Doc then drew up our tree again, labeling domains and pointing out how we know that the cell nucleus came after the split off of Bacteria and Archaea.




Is it fully settled yet whether the archaea is one domain, or two?

Tree of Life shows both ways, sort of like a movie with alternate endings. (Or beginnings?)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2008,13:36   



My notes and thoughts from Biology 111, for Monday, September 22, 2008. The entire series can be found here.

Before we get to the actual lecture, there's something I need to address here.

While taking notes, it is often helpful and even necessary to draw little diagrams and pictures, many of which I reproduce in this series by digital means.

This is often simpler, neater, and more helpful than just scanning pages of notes from my notebook.

Until now, it's really not made much of a difference, but in this lecture we begin drawing diagrams of cell structure, and while it's not terribly difficult to do digitally, when drawing them in a notebook it is imperative for accuracy to understand the proper method for drawing a cell. It is a skill which requires a great deal of practice.

Chromosomes and various proteins for example, can be very complicated, and drawing them incorrectly can lead to gross misunderstandings and disaster for the student. To help prevent this, I've created a digital animation of the proper method for drawing a chromosome inside a prokaryotic cell. The method employed here can be extended and extrapolations to eukaryotic cell diagramming should not be difficult.

The method, along with this lecture, is below.



Note the technique for drawing the chromosome, and study it carefully. This method is known as the Charles Brown Structural and CellulaR Inscription and Basic Biology Lesson Extraction. It is the only acceptable method in our classroom.

We ended the previous lecture at the beginning of our tour of the cell, and the evolution of the nucleus of the eukaryotic cell. Indeed, the cell nucleus is what defines the eukaryote domain. Prokaryotes don't have a nucleus, but rather just a chromosome in the center of the cell, a pre-nucleus (hence the label prokaryote).

We began the new lecture with a quick review of the tree of life and the split between prokaryotes and eukaryotes, and then moved on to listing some differences between the two types of cells.

The Two Basic Cell Types

Prokaryotic                                     Eukaryotic

circular*          Chromosomes            linear*
usually 1                                         many
in cytoplasm                                    in nucleus

70s**               Ribosomes               80s**</td>


not present     Membrane Bound        present</td>
                       Organelles

1 - 10 µm            Size                    10 - 100 µm

*circular or linear: meaning the ends of the chromosome either connect or don't connect - as they are tangled up in a little ball, it is important to remember that the overall shape is not a circle or straight line

**70s and 80s are just a reference to size, with 80s being somewhat bigger than 70s


We're going to focus on Eukaryotic cells, as that domain contains the stuff we're most familiar with: plants, animals, algae, and fungi.

Eukaryotic Cell Structure

Before we get started here, let me point you to a really beautiful CGI animation of the workings of a cell. It was made by a company called XVIVO for Harvard University, and is titled The Inner Life of a Cell. It's about 8 minutes long, so watch the video, we'll discuss some of what is going on in that video, and then I'll remind you to go back and watch the video again at the end of our tour of the cell.

(The video is so amazingly well done that even the perpetrators of the Intelligent Design Creationism Hoax were so impressed with it that one of their "Leading Lights", Dr. Dr. (He's got two!!!) William A. Dembski by name, was busted having swiped it, clipped the credits, changed the title, and was using it in his "talks". Then he lied about it, and was busted in that lie too. Meanwhile, Ben Stein's utter failure of a piece of crap propaganda garbage called Expelled, got exposed for plagiarizing Inner Life as well. Such high standards of morality and integrity! Liars and thieves, the lot of them.)

(The wikipedia article has some decent diagrams of these structures, so I'm going to use them instead of my own here for illustrative purposes.)



1. Nucleus

In most eukaryotes, it is the largest structure in the cell. It's surrounded by a double membrane called the nuclear envelope. The envelope has tiny openings in it called pores.

It contains the chromosomes ---> Long molecules of DNA coiled around proteins ---> They are very, very long, but coiled up. They might be long enough to reach across a desk, but they have to fit inside the nucleus of the cell. A human being has 23 pairs of these things inside the nucleus of the cell. That big mass of 23 pairs of chromosomes is called chromatin.

Also inside the nucleus is the nucleolus ---> manufactures ribosomal RNA (rRNA). One or sometimes more than one in the nucleus.

2. Ribosomes

Sites of protein synthesis. Consists of 2 subunits of rRNA + protein We'll cover this more in Unit 4, later in the semester.

There are two groups of Ribosomes in the cell, the free and the bound (or fixed).

The free ribosomes, as the name implies, float freely in the cytoplasm, while the bound ribosomes are attached (or bound, duh) to membranes (the outer membrane of the nucleus or the outer membrane of the endoplasmic reticulum.

The other major difference is that the free ribosomes produce proteins for use in the cytoplasm of the cell, like enzymes to begin the breakdown of sugars. The bound ribosomes produce proteins for use elsewhere. Insulin is a good example of this. It is produced inside the cells of the pancreas, but used elsewhere to regulate the sugar level.

3. Endoplasmic Reticulum, or ER

endo - "inside"

plasmic - "cytoplasm"

reticulum - "net"

The ER surrounds the nucleus and is continuous with the outer membrane of the nucleus. It's divided into two parts:

Rough ER ---> has bound ribosomes, and thus looks rough. The Rough ER produces proteins for export to other organelles or other cells.

Smooth ER ---> does not have bound ribosomes, and thus looks smooth. The Smooth ER synthesizes lipids, stores Calcium (Ca2+), detoxifies chemicals ---> the enzymes inside are especially important in the liver, for example.

Proteins leave the ER via a transport vesicle. This is actually a very cool process whereby the protein presses up against the membrane of the ER, then pushes further and further out, like an erupting zit, until it forms a big blister on the outside of the ER. Eventually, the blister itself breaks free and acts like a bubble around the protein as it travels to the Golgi Apparatus.

4. Golgi Apparatus

The golgi apparatus looks kind of like a stack of pancakes or coins. When a transport vesicle touches the golgi apparatus, the membrane of the transport vesicle fuses with the membrane of the golgi apparatus. Then the blistering pimple process is repeated in reverse, and the protein is delivered inside the golgi apparatus. That's just frackin' cool.

The protein enters by transport vesicle on one end of the golgi apparatus, called the cis (or receiving) side. It will eventually leave via the trans (or shipping) side. (This is where the term cis comes from in relation to discussions with transsexual folks, if you've heard that term bandied about. Cis folks are just non-trans folks. Now you know. Next time, do your own homework.)

Inside the golgi apparatus, the protein is modified for whatever task it needs to perform. It may have sugars added or sections of the protein might be removed, etc.

The protein which entered on the cis side and was then modified in the golgi apparatus is then ready for shipping from the trans side. It's packaged up and shipped via the transport vesicle mechanism, just like before.

The transport vesicle has a protein on the outside that works like an address label, telling the vesicle where the delivery is to be made. It might go directly to the plasma membrane and exit via the same process, or it can travel to another organelle within the cell and be delivered via the same process, or it might just stay in the cytoplasm and become another membrane bound organelle, depending on its pupose.

Lysosomes are a good example of that last.

5. Lysosomes

A lysosome is a vesicle filled with hydrolytic enzymes (digestive)

Hydrolytic ---> hydrolysis (that's convenient, huh?)

The enzymes use hydrolysis to digest, or break down, stuff the cell needs broken down, like carbohydrates or proteins, etc. Different lysosomes digest different things. They are the cell's recycling guys.

They might recycle worn out organelles, breaking them down into their constituent parts to be transported and reused within the cell.

They might digest bacterial infections, etc.

Lysosomes normally digest cancerous cells.

Lysosomes can tell a cell to suicide if damaged. They also tells some cells to suicide in the normal process of development. The webs between the fingers and toes of an embryo are digested this way.

And with that, this lecture ran out of time. We picked up the discussion of eukaryotic cell structures with the next lecture, taking up mitochondria, chloroplasts, the cytoskeleton, and cilia and flagella.


 
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The first image is of our textbook, Biology, Eighth Edition, by Campbell &amp; Reese et al.

The image of the cell structure is a screenshot of the Wikipedia article for the Endoplasmic Reticulum. The image has been released into the public domain by its author, Magnus Manske.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2008,15:44   

Re the poor termite sacrificed on the altar of Dawkins/Darwin:

I notice this so-called "Lou - an obviously made up ideal composite "student" "of" "biology" - grasps at straw after straw in order to avoid even raising the hypothesis that one of God's creatures is following God's purpose.

Even after secular hypotheses crumble, each one more desperate than the one before, he clings to the faith that there has to be some sort of materialist mechanistic explanation. Despite the lack of positive evidence for it, he even invokes the idea that ballpoint pen ink, which anyone who had a mother would know is very poisonous, is some sort of food the termite follows around.

Experiment if you dare:

put a pile of termite food on one part of the paper (wood shavings?) and a pool of ballpoint pen ink on another. Which does the termite follow?

Conclusion: the "following a chemical" hypothesis is for dimbulbs who think Godlessness is a substitute for rational thought.

Here's an idea: What if red/black ink circling behavior in termites is irreducibly complex? then any attempt to break it down to components will destroy the information, won't it?

  
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Re the poor termite sacrificed on the altar of Dawkins/Darwin:

I notice this so-called "Lou - an obviously made up ideal composite "student" "of" "biology" - grasps at straw after straw in order to avoid even raising the hypothesis that one of God's creatures is following God's purpose.

Even after secular hypotheses crumble, each one more desperate than the one before, he clings to the faith that there has to be some sort of materialist mechanistic explanation. Despite the lack of positive evidence for it, he even invokes the idea that ballpoint pen ink, which anyone who had a mother would know is very poisonous, is some sort of food the termite follows around.

Experiment if you dare:

put a pile of termite food on one part of the paper (wood shavings?) and a pool of ballpoint pen ink on another. Which does the termite follow?

Conclusion: the "following a chemical" hypothesis is for dimbulbs who think Godlessness is a substitute for rational thought.

Here's an idea: What if red/black ink circling behavior in termites is irreducibly complex? then any attempt to break it down to components will destroy the information, won't it?

Poe's(t) of the week.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2008,16:55   

lol, it's so hard to tell anymore.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 01 2008,19:51   

By the way, Lou, as someone whose biology notes in college were always much-borrowed, I think you take very good notes. Illustrations are vital, and you take due note of that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 02 2008,06:42   

Lou,

I haven't forgotten about you, I'm writing the bonding thingy as and when I get time. It's actually a useful thing for me to be doing, for reasons I'll explain when I post it.

Also not forgotten is the starch/iodine thing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 02 2008,06:53   

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By the way, Lou, as someone whose biology notes in college were always much-borrowed, I think you take very good notes. Illustrations are vital, and you take due note of that.

Thank you sir. The drawing actually takes more time and effort than the notes themselves, and that's part of what's keeping me behind on posting the notes.

You're right though, the illustrations are vital, at least for me. Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution, and nothing in Biology notes make sense except in light of illustrations.

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Lou,

I haven't forgotten about you, I'm writing the bonding thingy as and when I get time. It's actually a useful thing for me to be doing, for reasons I'll explain when I post it.

Also not forgotten is the starch/iodine thing.

Louis


Okee dokee, Louis. I can always be patient for the promise of a little bondage.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2008,11:13   

I think I screwed the pooch on a pop quiz this morning, dealing with passive transport and concentration gradients.

Just couldn't get my damned head together for some reason.

On the other hand, I got my third English essay back this morning. The prompt was a personal narrative.

It's up on my blog, if anyone's interested:

8 Seconds

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2008,16:44   

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concentration gradients

Hey, those came up on the train wrecked thread on PT.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2008,19:25   

Precalc midterm sucked. Just so y'know.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2008,10:53   

Well that doesn't sound good.

Precalc? is that something between algebra and calculus?

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2008,11:05   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 23 2008,10:53)
Well that doesn't sound good.

Precalc? is that something between algebra and calculus?

Henry

I think it focuses on trig and analytic geometry, but that's only a vague memory from tutoring while I was in engineering school; I never took the class.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2008,12:03   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 02 2008,12:42)
Lou,

I haven't forgotten about you, I'm writing the bonding thingy as and when I get time. It's actually a useful thing for me to be doing, for reasons I'll explain when I post it.

Also not forgotten is the starch/iodine thing.

Louis

Still not forgotten! I haven't had any time for anything other than work/family commitments this last week or two. What with various birthdays and outings I am stuck in real life!

Apologies, it WILL be worth it however.....well when I've added all the diagrams and equations to Image Shack and worked out just how many posts it's going to take....

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2008,05:34   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 23 2008,11:53)
Well that doesn't sound good.

Precalc? is that something between algebra and calculus?

Henry

I don't think I did well, but I guess it remains to be seen. Should have the exam back on Monday, I think.

Precalc is two classes, the first focuses on algebra, the second on geometry.

I'm taking the first one, and I guess I'm not meshing well with the teacher's style at this point. I'm a little frustrated.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2008,05:40   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 23 2008,12:03)
Still not forgotten! I haven't had any time for anything other than work/family commitments this last week or two. What with various birthdays and outings I am stuck in real life!

Scene from the Louis household.



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2008,09:02   

It's funny how that photo mirrors social science research, which shows guys just going nonresponsive to their mates over time.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2008,09:03   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 16 2008,17:44)
wrecked thread on PT

"Sir we've got a redundancy alarm on ATBC"
"Ignore it."

   
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