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JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:34    Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,15:28) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 13 2018,17:11) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,16:57)   Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,16:15)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,09:11)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 13 2018,09:05)     Quote (Joe G @ April 12 2018,20:29)       Quote (Henry J @ April 12 2018,19:27) So who or what designed di-hydrogen monoxide? Walt Disney maybe? (i.e., what does a diagram of an H2O molecule look like) The Designer of the universe. What else is there? Water just happened to luck into an almost perfect universal solvent? How many solids are less dense than their liquid form? How many solids could float on their liquid form- in great big chunks? I am sure the fish are happy that lakes don't freeze from the bottom up. silicon, gallium, germanium, antimony, bismuth, plutonium, bismuth, acetic acid. bismuth twice- really? How many on that list fit the second question and how many are solvents?     Quote How many on that list fit the second question All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry?     Quote and how many are solvents? All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry? (Before Joe tries to play word games, he should note that he didn’t specify they had to be more “universal” solvents than water) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Pardon the language but, what the fuck? [Teacher mode] I believe Joe, like many lay people is confusing silicone (the compound) and silicon (the element).  Silicone is, apparently, available is a liquid form, but this is a bit confusing as “silicone” is a name used for a variety of polymers.  We were talking about silicon, which melts (just like ice does) to be a liquid, albeit at 2577 F.  Unlike the various states of water, most substances are given the same name as a solid, liquid, or gas. [/teacher mode] [joescience]Looking forward to finding out whether liquid silicon is made of silicon.[/joescience] -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:56    Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,17:28) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 13 2018,17:11) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,16:57)   Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,16:15)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,09:11)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 13 2018,09:05)     Quote (Joe G @ April 12 2018,20:29)       Quote (Henry J @ April 12 2018,19:27) So who or what designed di-hydrogen monoxide? Walt Disney maybe? (i.e., what does a diagram of an H2O molecule look like) The Designer of the universe. What else is there? Water just happened to luck into an almost perfect universal solvent? How many solids are less dense than their liquid form? How many solids could float on their liquid form- in great big chunks? I am sure the fish are happy that lakes don't freeze from the bottom up. silicon, gallium, germanium, antimony, bismuth, plutonium, bismuth, acetic acid. bismuth twice- really? How many on that list fit the second question and how many are solvents?     Quote How many on that list fit the second question All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry?     Quote and how many are solvents? All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry? (Before Joe tries to play word games, he should note that he didn’t specify they had to be more “universal” solvents than water) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Pardon the language but, what the fuck? [Teacher mode] I believe Joe, like many lay people is confusing silicone (the compound) and silicon (the element).  Silicone is, apparently, available is a liquid form, but this is a bit confusing as “silicone” is a name used for a variety of polymers.  We were talking about silicon, which melts (just like ice does) to be a liquid, albeit at 2577 F.  Unlike the various states of water, most substances are given the same name as a solid, liquid, or gas. [/teacher mode] Fucking GUILTY as charged. Should never trust the search engine to know what you are really looking for. I fucked up and hit on silicone without realizing what the search engine did. The only one on the list I knew about was "bismuth". And when checking on bismuth there were the rest. (I knew acartia just cut and pasted it from yahoo answers (or some reasonable facsimile thereof) so between that and acartia I smell rats) The list is very, very limited in comparison to the rest of the natural elements and compounds. That's the point. With water it really matters that it is less dense as a solid. The fish appreciate it. And so do the ice road truckers. Water is a universal solvent. Absent Intelligent Design what do you have to explain that besides sheer dumb luck? And is that what you think is scientific? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:58    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:00    And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:01    Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:10    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:01)   Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58)     Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:11    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:10) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:01)     Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58)     Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along. How special... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:13    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:11) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:10)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:01)       Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58)       Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along. How special... Joke "science" wavelength = frequency body = body plan silicon = silicone     -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:16    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:13) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:11)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:10)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:01)       Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58)         Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along. How special... Joke "science" wavelength = frequency body = body plan silicon = silicone :D   :D   :D Whatever mr shit = code mr magic for a mechanism I see that you still have difficulty following along -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:23    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:27    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56) Water is a universal solvent. That's why bottles don't exist. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,22:59    Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:16) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:13) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:11)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 13 2018,18:10)     Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:01)         Quote (stevestory @ April 13 2018,17:58)         Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57) Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid? Yup, silicone for her breast implants Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along. How special... Joke "science" wavelength = frequency body = body plan silicon = silicone :D   :D   :D Whatever mr shit = code mr magic for a mechanism I see that you still have difficulty following along Ronrey cycle will start soon: much embarrass. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:16    Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:18    Quote (JohnW @ April 13 2018,18:27) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56) Water is a universal solvent. That's why bottles don't exist. water, the universal solvent Quote Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:22    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16) Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Scratch that- except for the plutonium bit. I don't know if all liquids can or cannot be a solvent as I have not tested them all- no one has. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:46    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16) Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,13:11    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16) Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,13:13    Quote (stevestory @ April 14 2018,08:45) Quote Defending Intelligent Design theory: Why targets are real targets, probabilities real probabilities, and the Texas Sharp Shooter fallacy does not apply at all. April 13, 2018 Posted by gpuccio under Intelligent Design [URL=https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/defending-intelligent-design-theory-why-targets-are-real-targets-propabilities-real-probab ilities-and-the-texas-sharp-shooter-fallacy-does-not-apply-at-all/]I expect this to turn into a whole messa tard.[/URL] We would love to see a thread by some evoTARD trying to defend the claims of evolutionism. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:16    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,10:18) Quote (JohnW @ April 13 2018,18:27) Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56) Water is a universal solvent. That's why bottles don't exist. water, the universal solvent Quote Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients. I think we can add "hyperbole" to the long, long list of words Joe doesn't understand. How would we store a universal solvent, Joe? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:34    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,13:11) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)   Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:45    Quote (JohnW @ April 14 2018,20:16) How would we store a universal solvent, Joe? Eh, I wouldn't lean too hard on that point. Water is commonly called "the universal solvent" even though strictly speaking that isn't accurate. Obviously it's not really universal because it barely dissolves nonpolar molecules like oil, hexane, silicon dioxide, etc. It's just called that because it's a better solvent than anything else.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:33    Quote (JohnW @ April 14 2018,19:16) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,10:18) Quote (JohnW @ April 13 2018,18:27)   Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56) Water is a universal solvent. That's why bottles don't exist. water, the universal solvent   Quote Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients. I think we can add "hyperbole" to the long, long list of words Joe doesn't understand. How would we store a universal solvent, Joe? Take it up with the rest the world, Johnny. There are many articles describing water as a universal solvent. Your ignorance won't make them go away -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:34    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,19:34) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,13:11) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46)   Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)   Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)     Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense. Displacement -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:40    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,21:34) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,19:34) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,13:11)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46)   Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)     Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)     Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense. Displacement Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,22:24    Quote (Texas Teach @ April 14 2018,21:40) Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,21:34) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,19:34)   Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,13:11)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46)     Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)     Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)       Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense. Displacement Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float? With icebergs just the tip generally shows. There is about a 10% difference between salt water and ice with respect to density. So by overthinking the issue I get the chunk of solid plutonium suspended in liquid plutonium but not floating on top. But seeing there is about a 2.5% difference between fresh and salt water I will be able to test that next time I make it to the beach. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,22:41    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,22:24) Quote (Texas Teach @ April 14 2018,21:40)   Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,21:34)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,19:34)     Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,13:11)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46)       Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)       Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)         Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00) And not all liquids are solvents. So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents. Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent. Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.   However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float. Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents. And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium. Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink. The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C. The bottom of the ocean is not ice. Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense. Displacement Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float? With icebergs just the tip generally shows. There is about a 10% difference between salt water and ice with respect to density. So by overthinking the issue I get the chunk of solid plutonium suspended in liquid plutonium but not floating on top. But seeing there is about a 2.5% difference between fresh and salt water I will be able to test that next time I make it to the beach. You are aware we know how to calculate this?  I get this isn't something you’ve studied, but why do you assume no one else has?  Joe, this is high school physics, but it’s a good thing that you’re interested in it, so here’s a place to start. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,23:21    You lost him at "high school" -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2018,08:16    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 14 2018,23:21) You lost him at "high school" You lost him at “school”.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2018,09:15    Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,22:34) Quote Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense. Displacement Wow. Joe gets an F- in middle school science.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2018,09:23    Joe dosn't need to go to school to see if fresh water is lighter than salt water when he can just go to the beach. I had a dog like that. No matter how many times he went to the beach, which was most weeks in his thirteen year life, he always tried to drink the sea water. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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