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Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,11:38    coon in my attic last night.  i am going to close up the soffets this weekend.  he could have easily dropped down through an unfinished section of drywall in the closet and into my little boy's room.  i peppered him with a bb gun by headlamp but that only drove him further into the house.  guess it works better on the cats.   While on the roof the other day I saw a pair of pileated woodpeckers, a downy or a northern (didn't get a good look), cedar waxwings, starling, peewees, cardinal, blue jay, robins, a smaller Buteo hawk on the wing and my favorite, yellow shafted flicker. i know some cherokees that'll give you $15 for such a bird.  FtK if you are reading this perhaps you will direct your children to shoot these birds instead of big cranky. i had a nice collection of flicker feathers (we call them yaller hammers) but the dermestids got into my fly tying box and ruined every damn thing, including the quills of the yaller hammer feathers.  i had had them for almost 20 years, at mom and dad's the cats would get them occasionally and I could just pick them up.  they make an absolutely FANTASTIC wet fly mimic of Perlid/Perlodid stonefly nymphs.  dyed dove feathers are not the same thing. not sure if i want to start plinking away at the local avifauna with a BB gun just to restock.  anyone finds a dead yaller hammer PM me. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,12:41    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 30 2009,11:28) My Field Ornithology class yesterday only saw 23 species, You make me envious! On a 2-hour walk at the weekend I saw 4 - four ravens, two grey jays, a black-backed woodpecker and a black-capped(?) chickadee. -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,13:25    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 30 2009,11:38) my favorite, yellow shafted flicker. i know some cherokees that'll give you $15 for such a bird.  FtK if you are reading this perhaps you will direct your children to shoot these birds instead of big cranky. i had a nice collection of flicker feathers (we call them yaller hammers) but the dermestids got into my fly tying box and ruined every damn thing, including the quills of the yaller hammer feathers.  i had had them for almost 20 years, at mom and dad's the cats would get them occasionally and I could just pick them up.  they make an absolutely FANTASTIC wet fly mimic of Perlid/Perlodid stonefly nymphs.  dyed dove feathers are not the same thing. not sure if i want to start plinking away at the local avifauna with a BB gun just to restock.  anyone finds a dead yaller hammer PM me. Erasmus, you might enjoy Merril Gilfillan's collection of essays entitled "Chokecherry Places". He has a really interesting story about his travels with a Southern Ute fellow across Kansas, and the search for a yellow-shafted flicker to kill so that the Ute could get the tail feathers. The entire essay (not the whole book, alas) is on Google Books here. And if you like that one, Gilfillan's "Burnt House to Paw Paw", with its Appalachian motif, might amuse you as well. Enjoy! [eta picture of Yellow-shafted Flicker] -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

dhogaza Posts: 525 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,13:29    black-backed woodpecker's a nice sighting, where are you at?  Obviously some place with (at least some dead) coniferous trees, let's see grey jays ... might be mountain, not black-capped, chickadees.  In the places here in the PNW where I'd see grey jays and black-backed or three-toed 'peckers it would almost certainly be mountain...

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,18:24    Quote (dhogaza @ Jan. 30 2009,13:29) black-backed woodpecker's a nice sighting, where are you at?  Obviously some place with (at least some dead) coniferous trees, let's see grey jays ... might be mountain, not black-capped, chickadees.  In the places here in the PNW where I'd see grey jays and black-backed or three-toed 'peckers it would almost certainly be mountain... I'm at Cross Lake, Manitoba (54o37'N, 97o47'W), about 150km due south of Thompson. The other chickadee possibility is the boreal. The last time I saw some, they alerted me to the presence of a boreal owl sitting on a stump. There are several woodpeckers around in the winter including pileated, hairy and downy but they are in small numbers. Two weeks ago I nearly hit a spruce grouse that was standing in the middle of the road, convinced it was well camouflaged. We are in the coniferous forest region and, although some has been logged, most is in a fairly natural condition with quite a few dead trees, especially in old burn areas. At other times I've seen plentiful tracks of snowshoe hares and foxes and (once) wolf but there were few last weekend. -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

dhogaza Posts: 525 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,18:49    Quote We are in the coniferous forest region and, although some has been logged, most is in a fairly natural condition with quite a few dead trees, especially in old burn areas. Yeah, that's stereotypical black-backed 'pecker habitat. Mountain chickadee ain't it if you're living up there in Manitoba, boreal is one that's not on my list ...

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2009,21:21    Some people I know report that birds use the birdbath like crazy in the winter, even though it's 50 degrees, much more than they use it in the summer. They are perplexed because it is cold and why would you want to be wet in the cold. I told them I'd ask some biologists I knew. What do you guys think?

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2009,07:36    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 13 2009,21:21) Some people I know report that birds use the birdbath like crazy in the winter, even though it's 50 degrees, much more than they use it in the summer. They are perplexed because it is cold and why would you want to be wet in the cold. I told them I'd ask some biologists I knew. What do you guys think? Hmm. Where I live the water in the birdbath has to be warmer than the air temperature at this time of year... What kind of birds are we talking about?  And I assume that the habitat is backyard, northern Florida? -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2009,17:06    Could it be a question of where they're bathing rather than if they are? Might be other places they like better in warmer weather. Henry

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 14 2009,17:14    maybe they piss in it first to heat it up. hey works for a wet suit. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2009,05:22    Maybe not the appropriate topic, but hey, feel free to move this somewhere else. I've stumbled upon this nice series of documentaries about wildlife in Australia. Just thought I'd share the link. (This is a link to part one, but normaly all four parts follow each other in the right-hand menu): Autralia's wildlife I found it quite interesting. (3 and a half hours, mind you) -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,08:26    A good friend of mine is currently in Chile, and he sent some pics of the wildlife there, including the target species of his quest, the Monito del Monte ("little mountain monkey"), which is not a monkey but is a small marsupial. It sounds like he is having a good time, and he sent lots of pics of birds and mammals. But the best one is this stag beetle, Chiasognathus granti, aka Darwin's beetle. Apparently these guys can be up to 8 cm in length! -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,20:40    So, what late night movies has that guy been the star of?

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,20:43    There are 6 squirrels that take peanuts from my hand; and 2 blue jays that demand such. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,20:56    Don't tell Chatfield, but I killed a gopher tonight. The college student that keeps a horse with us called from out at the barn and said she got bit by a gopher and it was heading across the backyard.   I went out and, on my way to the barn to get my Weapon of Gopher Destruction (otherwise known as a shovel), I walked past it. As I went past, the little booger turned and came for me.  I got my WGD and found it up by the house.  It actually attacked the shovel.  So,  I conked it on the head rendering it unconscious.  With the varmint thus incapacitated, I dispatched it as efficiently as I could. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,21:07    Uh... rabies? The question should be raised. That is not normal gopher behavior. Over here, we took Beka, the mini-dachshund out. She found two rabbits and tracked another. At the start, I saw at least three turkeys maybe fifty yards away. They moved on well before Beka got anywhere close. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,21:21    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 25 2009,21:07) Uh... rabies? The question should be raised. That is not normal gopher behavior. Oops, I guess I should have added that she was wearing heavy paddock boots and it didn't even break leather. I had seeded its den with poison earlier in the day (it was taking up residence right by our hitching rail). I was hoping it was just a side effect of the poison, but Google says no. I have seen this fellow below outside my home office window. The picture look a little blurry because it was taken through a screen window. Red-bellied Woodpecker -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,02:17    Our dog loves to hunt. We live in town, and one would think that his chances were limited. Last night he nailed a possum, his fourth in 6 years. The possum played possum to perfection (and crapped himself very thoroughly). The dog was quite pleased and missed the fact that the possum (bloody, crap covered, and inert) was still alive. I put it under some sagebrush in the front yard, and after two days he headed out for a new adventure. Probably I'll see him on the road, flat. (I forgot to take a picture. D'oh). Edited by Dr.GH on Feb. 26 2009,00:20 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,07:46    Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

EyeNoU Posts: 115 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,11:09    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 26 2009,07:46) Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. I guess Wes doesn't want to do any research on how rodent poison affects creatures further up the food chain......

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,12:00    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 26 2009,07:46) Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. In my defense, the poison is not left on the surface. I have far too many domestic and non-destructive wild animals to ever do that.  It is put into the den underground and it is supposed to work quickly after ingested.   Are hawks carrion eaters? -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

dnmlthr Posts: 565 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,12:49    Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,02:56) Don't tell Chatfield, but I killed a gopher tonight. The college student that keeps a horse with us called from out at the barn and said she got bit by a gopher and it was heading across the backyard. Does this mean six more weeks of winter, rain or what? I'm confused. -------------- Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:15    Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,12:00) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 26 2009,07:46) Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. In my defense, the poison is not left on the surface. I have far too many domestic and non-destructive wild animals to ever do that.  It is put into the den underground and it is supposed to work quickly after ingested.   Are hawks carrion eaters? Yes, many hawks will scavenge carcasses, especially during winter. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:26    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 26 2009,13:15) Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,12:00)   Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 26 2009,07:46) Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. In my defense, the poison is not left on the surface. I have far too many domestic and non-destructive wild animals to ever do that.  It is put into the den underground and it is supposed to work quickly after ingested.   Are hawks carrion eaters? Yes, many hawks will scavenge carcasses, especially during winter. Ahh, okay.  I guess I need to limit my gopher eradication program to summer and take care to get rid of any bodies found on the surface.  No problem. It will take longer that way, as I have alot of activity, but that is okay. I always figured it would be an ongoing project. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

KCdgw Posts: 376 Joined: Sep. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:37    Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,13:26) Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 26 2009,13:15)   Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,12:00)     Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Feb. 26 2009,07:46) Carlson, remind me never to bring the hawks to your place. In my defense, the poison is not left on the surface. I have far too many domestic and non-destructive wild animals to ever do that.  It is put into the den underground and it is supposed to work quickly after ingested.   Are hawks carrion eaters? Yes, many hawks will scavenge carcasses, especially during winter. Ahh, okay.  I guess I need to limit my gopher eradication program to summer and take care to get rid of any bodies found on the surface.  No problem. It will take longer that way, as I have alot of activity, but that is okay. I always figured it would be an ongoing project. Or use gopher traps. KC -------------- Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it-- Confucius

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:45    Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 26 2009,13:37) Or use gopher traps. KC Gopher traps are not feasible because the vast majority of my problem is in the pastures where I graze my horses. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:48    Quote vast majority of my problem is in the pastures where I graze my horses ahh that is your love nest i see. may i suggest getting a room? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,13:48    It was snowing today here in Helsinki, so this little beast was sheltering on my balcony: And here's a better shot, from closer and without the banana plant in the way: I was still taking the photos through about 18 layers of glass, hence the quality isn't great.  The little thing was cute, and makes a change from the tits. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2009,14:45    Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 26 2009,13:45) Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 26 2009,13:37) Or use gopher traps. KC Gopher traps are not feasible because the vast majority of my problem is in the pastures where I graze my horses. I belive that Carl Spackler, Esq.  is available for consultaion on eliminating your excess golfer gopher problem. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 02 2009,12:37    -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

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