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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,19:40   

khan says on the AD birfday thread:

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Does anyone know his dimensions, so as to construct sweater dimensions?


Based on photos I've seen of Dembski, I'd put him at 6'2, 170 lbs. neck maybe 16'', narrow shoulders.

I do not know the dimensions of the elephant the sweater was originally constructed for.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,19:46   

we can't knit each one. too much work. We need to figure out how to get them made.

Or i suppose we *could* have them knit, in like Bangladesh or something.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,19:49   

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Does anyone know his dimensions, so as to construct sweater dimensions?

I already know the dimensions of that sweater.

Too f&$%ing long by Too F&$%ing wide.


I'm 5'3", small boned, and underweight; I'm sure the original 'sweater' could be a tent.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:19   

I think we might have to find a source of grey knit sweaters, and somehow dye or paint the black lines on them

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:27   

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Does anyone know his dimensions, so as to construct sweater dimensions?

I already know the dimensions of that sweater.

Too f&$%ing long by Too F&$%ing wide.


I'm 5'3", small boned, and underweight; I'm sure the original 'sweater' could be a tent.

I suspect the sweater was originally knitted for Dave Scot by his granny, then Dave regifted it to Bill.

Maybe he thought if he wore it into the Baylor cafeteria they wouldn't recognize him.

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Marion Delgado



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:33   

In the face of all criticism and counter arguments, let me press my case nonetheless*.

MC lets you infer there MUST be frontloading, without necessarily inferring any design or designer.

For instance, fully 49%, or nearly half, of all MC positions require the jokingly named thermidore triple bypass (from some movie, I believe).

That is a frontloaded strategy that cannot be arrived at by stochastic processes of random innovation or deviation coupled with game winning selection.

Some people are uncomfortable with MC, because it can literally get you from, say, Noah's ark to the present without invoking Darwinism.

But the consequences of a theory are irrelevant to its truth. objectivity coupled with MC should let the chips fall where they may.

All the created kinds, if you insist on using outdated creationist terms, from a period 6000 years ago, can be represented with a mapping equation by Earl's Court, Elephant and Castle, and Gloucester.

If you represent the entire biosphere by the current London Tube Station system *including stations that are no longer in operation* and use Victoria Station to represent EITHER Man or Beetlekind, you can show that the rules of MC enable you to precisely match the true fossil record.

This discovery is indeed Nobel caliber, but I am already girding my loins to be expelled from the Nobel process.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:34   

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In the face of all criticism and counter arguments, let me press my case nonetheless*.

* this is how you know I am the successor to Behe and Dembski.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:41   

You might not be on the right thread. This is the Bad Fashion Thread.

   
Marion Delgado



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,20:46   

Bad fashion, my dear stevestory, is on the same exact chromosome as vital groundbreaking insights into evolution.

Which you would know if you weren't bamboozled by Darwinian hoohah.

I note I am wearing the baggy sweater here, and you're not!

  
digitus impudicus



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,21:30   

Ceiling Cat, I regret to say that long necked Canadian pron doesn't work for me.  I prefer traditional styles.

And Louis, I must say that British pron seems to be very lacking.  Getting excited at the hint of a wrist or ankle is getting very close to Dr.Dr. territory.  For the sake of my opinion of you, please restate.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2009,21:43   

Quote (Marion Delgado @ Jan. 17 2009,21:46)
Bad fashion, my dear stevestory, is on the same exact chromosome as vital groundbreaking insights into evolution.

Which you would know if you weren't bamboozled by Darwinian hoohah.

I note I am wearing the baggy sweater here, and you're not!

Well, I am in Florida.

Don't get much sweatertime down here.

Although Wesley said it was sweltering in June in Pennsylvania when that photo was taken, so perhaps i shouldn't use that excuse...

...or perhaps heat stroke explains why Dembski thinks he's Isaac Newton....

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,06:53   

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This discovery is indeed Nobel caliber, but I am already girding my loins to be expelled from the Nobel process.

Irrelevant anyway - it is questionable whether or not Stockholm is a valid move in MC.

rossum

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,09:09   

Quote (digitus impudicus @ Jan. 18 2009,03:30)
Ceiling Cat, I regret to say that long necked Canadian pron doesn't work for me. I prefer traditional styles.

And Louis, I must say that British pron seems to be very lacking. Getting excited at the hint of a wrist or ankle is getting very close to Dr.Dr. territory. For the sake of my opinion of you, please restate.

Wrist OR ankle? No sir! Wrist AND ankle. Yoiks tally ho and away!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,09:13   

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This discovery is indeed Nobel caliber, but I am already girding my loins to be expelled from the Nobel process.

Irrelevant anyway - it is questionable whether or not Stockholm is a valid move in MC.

rossum

If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.

HTH. HAND.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,09:29   

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If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.


FYI: : Norwegian and Danish, not Swedish
: Swedish, German, and ?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,10:22   

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Does anyone know his dimensions, so as to construct sweater dimensions?

I already know the dimensions of that sweater.

Too f&$%ing long by Too F&$%ing wide.


I'm 5'3", small boned, and underweight; I'm sure the original 'sweater' could be a tent.

It may not show much evidence of design, but the way that cardy is sagging out over his midriff clearly indicated front loading.

He must have $20 worth of nickels in the pocket of that thing.




Which reminds me of a venerable Grouchoism:

"My dear, you look like a million dollars. In lose change".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,10:28   

DaveTard:
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Do Darwinists acknowledge flaws in Origin of Species?
DaveScot

Steve Fuller, in the preceding article, begins by saying that Darwinists acknowledge the flaws in Darwins Origin of Species and seek to correct the flaws and expand on it. He further says this separates the Darwinist reading of Origin from the Christian reading the Bible.

Well, I for one would like to know exactly what flaws in Origin of Species Fuller thinks are acknowledged.

Jesus, Dave, reach down into your considerable wealth and buy a clue. Then pick up a copy of Gould's The Structure of Evolutionary Theory, just for starters.

What a dope.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,11:05   

Quote (Quack @ Jan. 18 2009,07:29)
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If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.


FYI: : Norwegian and Danish, not Swedish
: Swedish, German, and ?

Hungarian.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,11:57   

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Quote (Quack @ Jan. 18 2009,07:29)
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If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.


FYI: : Norwegian and Danish, not Swedish
: Swedish, German, and ?

Hungarian.

Also, Icelandic, and English, too.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,12:11   

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This discovery is indeed Nobel caliber, but I am already girding my loins to be expelled from the Nobel process.

Irrelevant anyway - it is questionable whether or not Stockholm is a valid move in MC.

rossum

If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.

HTH. HAND.

Louis

I hate to be picky (that's more Arden's job) but "Stockholm" itself wouldn't be admissible under any MC convention that I know of, as it is the name the of the city itself. For example, no UK based MC game ever has a move called "London".

However, given the "hub and spokes" nature of the Stockholm Metro system (see Mark Ovenden's Metro Maps of the World p101) any Stockholm based MC game would be quite challenging. Starting at Ropsten would be quite interesting, although there may be more to be gained from an opening gambit based on Alvik.

I'll get my coat.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,12:11   

Quote (Quack @ Jan. 18 2009,15:29)
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If using STOVOLD, no. If using the Swedish STVL,then of course yes.


FYI: : Norwegian and Danish, not Swedish
: Swedish, German, and ?

Oh bugger, did I get it wrong?

LOL My bad, my bad.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,12:30   

Take the Mornington Crescent junk to the Bathroom Wall.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,13:26   

(Trying to get thread back on-topic,) in his latest post Dave has invented a new word:  
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<snip> Well, I for one would like to know exactly what flaws in Origin of Species Fuller thinks are acknowledged. Furthermore, I know plenty of Christians who believe much of the bible is methaphoric. <snip>

Anyone know what to make of that?
I also want to preserve this:  
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They dont think the earth and life was created in 6 days. They dont think Lot was literally turned into a pillar of salt. They dont think the entire earth was flooded and all the animals were saved in pairs on a wooden ark.
...as it may change. The first comment points out that it was Lot's wife, of course.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,13:40   

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(Trying to get thread back on-topic,) in his latest post Dave has invented a new word:  
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<snip> Well, I for one would like to know exactly what flaws in Origin of Species Fuller thinks are acknowledged. Furthermore, I know plenty of Christians who believe much of the bible is methaphoric. <snip>

Anyone know what to make of that?

The high you get from meth?

Could account for things like talking snakes or sticks that turn into them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,14:07   

Quote (1of63 @ Jan. 18 2009,13:40)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Jan. 18 2009,13:26)
(Trying to get thread back on-topic,) in his latest post Dave has invented a new word:  
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<snip> Well, I for one would like to know exactly what flaws in Origin of Species Fuller thinks are acknowledged. Furthermore, I know plenty of Christians who believe much of the bible is methaphoric. <snip>

Anyone know what to make of that?

The high you get from meth?

Could account for things like talking snakes or sticks that turn into them.

Maybe that's what Dave's been up to in the Floating Command Center?

On the other point about biblical literalism...Doesn't Dave know that the Big Tent is the 3rd rail of UD? And him without his bannation immunity.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,14:25   

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...as it may change. The first comment points out that it was Lot's wife, of course.


Curiosity and its punishment seems to be a theme.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,14:49   

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...as it may change. The first comment points out that it was Lot's wife, of course.


Curiosity and its punishment seems to be a theme.

Thinking and looking and questioning are doubleplusungood.

"Here be dragons."

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,15:15   

I once overheard two of the most powerful politicians in Stockholm (apologies for the oblique MC reference) while one asked the other: "Remind me, whose wife was it that must always be above suspicion?" and got the swift reply: "Lot's, I think?"

Just to add insult to injury, I happen to frequent Alvik T-station.

Don't forget to tip the waitress while I get my coat -- is that on the kosher line?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,15:17   

Oh, and Turkish. Dutch, not as a majuscule but often where two vowels meet.

I'll be in the bath now. (Brushing my teeth, of course. What did you "guys" expect?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2009,15:31   

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On the other point about biblical literalism...Doesn't Dave know that the Big Tent is the 3rd rail of UD? And him without his bannation immunity.

Our Dave's been conflicted about this for years. Perhaps he now figures he has nothing to lose?

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