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J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,12:34    Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 02 2007,10:27) Does he always wear starched cotton shirts with a suit and tie, or does he slop around in sweaters occasionally? Does he snore? Does he smell like cinnamon? Hmmm, so many research projects, so little time. :D Kristine - EEEWWWWWWW !! Total yuck that you could even think of this, let alone subject us to these ugly, viscious word pictures!  (Please see the Civility Thread, where we are not allowed to assult other posters).   EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW! He wears starched and ironed shorts, and acts a lot like "Frank Burns" the annoying charcter from M*A*S*H that noboody liked, just as nobody likes him. Dembski drools, and wipes his constantly running nose with his slimey fingers (That's why people in the know won't shake hands with him BTW). He does NOT smell like cinamon, he smells like DaveScott and Man Mustard, if you'll pardon my French. The only research project Dembski knows how to pursue involves looking for ID answers in either the Old or New Testaments. In the future, PLEASE, I beg you, spare us anymore of your savage visual imagry of the pencil-necked geek also known as Dr. Dembski. Thank you. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,12:43    BTW Kristine - I just re-read my last post, and it looks much more strident now, than when I wrote it.  So, since I am newhere, I think i should add this and say that, just in case you didn't know, I really like to kid around, and your post was an excuse to dump on Denbski, which I always enjoy doing.  I always enjoy your Musings, and Shimmies, so there! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,12:53     I knew the cinnamon would getcha! I love making men go, "Ewww!" You are talking to a gal who used to catch snakes and scare the other girls (god I was so popular in school). My digs at Dembski are affectionate digs at you guys too, haven't you figured that out yet? That's why I usually say, "I think I just heard J-Dog barfing" when I unleash the honey trap (but I haven't been saying that lately). So, no worries. Strident? We're none of us strident here.   -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

jujuquisp Posts: 129 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,12:59    Here's Dumbski's YouTube comment on the "The Dawkins Delusion" idiocy.  If you listen to this, you will see how unfunny it is and what an unbrilliant spoof it is.  All it is is substituting the word "dawkins" for "god", and it really isn't very witty nor worth listening to. Quote wmadembski   (25 minutes ago) Brilliant. The best spoof I've seen or heard in ages.

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,13:08    Salvador, quoting an article:   Quote Moreover the information incompressibility of [Chatin’s Algorithmic Information Theory] AIT is related to the “irreducible complexity” concept (IC). Chaitin's "irreducible complexity" means algorithmic incompressibility, which means that X cannot be generated by a program shorter than X.  ID's IC has at least 3 definitions, all of which have to do with functionality and evolvability through RM+NS.  Am I stupid for not seeing how they're meaningfully related? Question for IDers:  According to algorithmic information theory, which of the following is irreducibly complex? 1) A bacterial flagellum 2) A random pile of atoms from which a flagellum is made -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,13:35    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 02 2007,10:52)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 02 2007,09:34) http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2018 I'm thinking the Biologic lab staff shakes down like this: 4 Flash animators 3 Writers 4 voiceover artists 2 Still life artists etc. There's got to be a guy who keeps the ventilation running. That would be Joseph Whosis ( I forget his name, the one Zachriel slaps around) , the appliance repairman -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,13:45    quizzlesticks:   Quote The intelligent designer anticipated that one day we would have the technology and has given us the wisdom to use it. Darwin never predicted that heart-transplants would be possible but Intelligent Design makes exactly that prediction. It's a shame that we will never be credited for this discovery, Tune in tomorrow when quizzlesticks explains how ID predicted Kennedy's assassination, and quizzlesticks is booted for breaking the ID-Says-Nothing-About-The-Designer rule when she says that the designer is obviously Republican. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,14:19    oh noes. tROUTmac's got all philosophical on us   Quote The trouble with number 2 is that it doesn't appear to jive with current scientific thinking. If the universe had a beginning, then matter and energy did, too because matter and energy are part of the universe. So that leaves you with number one, where science doesn't pursue truth. or his he talking a different sort of number one and twos? I Tell ya, i didn't eight it! but he's got proof, I TELL YA   Quote The mere fact that DNA carries CSI ought to be evidence enough, but there is far more. plus proof positive   Quote there's one possibility that you did not confront and one that can and should logically be considered. ONE religion might actually be true. Damm OW is beyond parody. I think AFdave could take lessons in avoiding answering questions from Troutmac. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,14:24    Quote All it is is substituting the word "dawkins" for "god", and it really isn't very witty nor worth listening to. Granted, but as I listened I substituted "Dembski" for every mention of "Dawkins" (isn't that what Dembski wants us all to do in the larger culture after all?) and to me it was funny. Demb Ass doesn't even exist! Just a bunch of books and papers and a bloated CV and some web pages and a MS Outlook contact listing at Baylor U. Boy, that doesn't bode well for the Designer.  So I'll just gloat about going on the expedition with Dawkins then. Ha ha, neener neener, Paul Kurtz and Dawkins with me on a boat. And the minute Lalla Ward steps on that ship no one's gonna look at me anymore.    The lady I could never be. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,15:18    It appears Sal is taking David Berlinski's lead now when writing more drivel  as a GIS of the quote he uses from Godel seems to show. Oddly (or not) the essay that the single result links to is called "The End of Materialist Science". Not surprising perhaps for a fellow of the disco institute. Sal then goes on to say   Quote (Hat Tip: Dr. Albert Voie and others who alerted me to this article) Yeah, and don't forget to pass credit to the discovery institute as well, or is that not politically correct over at UD? Odd, as usually they love to detail their sources.... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,15:54    Headline:  DaveScott Getting Hit with a cluestick at Science Blogs! For your reading enjoyment, the Tard Strikes out on his own, outside his cozy UD nest environment, and gets smacked upside the head by reality... This is fun, and tardelicious! http://scienceblogs.com/insolen....i_1.php -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,16:08    DaveScot, Feb. 1:   Quote Got link? DaveScot, Feb 2:   Quote I ban people for making me do research they should be doing for themselves. Consider yourself warned. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

IAMB Posts: 15 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,17:00    Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 02 2007,15:54) Headline:  DaveScott Getting Hit with a cluestick at Science Blogs! For your reading enjoyment, the Tard Strikes out on his own, outside his cozy UD nest environment, and gets smacked upside the head by reality... This is fun, and tardelicious! http://scienceblogs.com/insolen....i_1.php And then DT runs right back to UD and pulls the pharma shill gambit after being smacked by the cluestick. How sadly predictable. He'd fit in really well on misc.health.alternative. -------------- From the desk of your friendly neighborhood fecal projectile technician...

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,17:51    I like the fight between Davetard and Orac. http://scienceblogs.com/insolen....i_1.php http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2019 I guess this is another example of Dave trying to prove that he can roll with the big dogs, but then he comes up short, the big dogs leave him in the dust, when he realizes he's been totally outdogged, he just barks really loudly at the big dogs' dust trail and pretends to his chihuahua friends that he ran them all off. It's awesome. First Orac gets peeved at all the hype and says that it's hype. The drug is untested in humans. He complains about all the "big pharma is trying to screw you out of a miracle cure for cancer" bit and how does Dave counter that? By linking to all the webhype and claiming it as the authoritative source on the subject. Nice. Quotes from Dave's links:   Quote Sadly, this drug -- that appears to work remarkably well -- may never benefit cancer patients. All because no one stands to make billions of dollars from it.   Quote However, as DCA is not patented, Michelakis is concerned that it may be difficult to find funding from private investors to test DCA in clinical trials. Isn't that a great sob story? It's one PI going straight to the pop media people, who totally buy his schtick, trying to drum up public support for his research because he won't be able to have a corporate sponsor for clinical trials of an unpatentable drug. And Dave eats it up entirely too. I'm all for the guy getting funding for his research.I think he's going about it in a kinda sleazy way, but I can't hate the playa. Unfortunately he's just playing the game, but in the process he's giving people this potentially false hope and starting quite a few arguments. But hey, I enjoy watching Dayvo get the smackdown. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,18:03    nano-eco systems. I wonder what speculations sal can come up with?   Quote Should a bacterium find life in one chamber inhospitable, escape routes beckon: Two narrow corridors lead through opposite walls into the adjacent chambers. But the corridors are 50 micrometers long – a decent hike by bacterial standards – and any would-be colonists might have to traverse several relatively poor areas before finding one that seems livable. While the new residents try to make the best of their surroundings, their offspring adapt even more. They often thrive in a chamber that would have been marginally comfortable for their ancestors. Ecologists would say they have adapted to a different "niche" in the landscape. nanowerk Quote "The basic idea is directed evolution," Austin said. "By observing the growth of different groups of bacteria in different chambers, we can also monitor each chamber for a desirable product, in this case hydrogen gas. We can reward those populations that produce lots of gas by giving them more food and space. Conversely, we would 'punish' underachieving bacterial colonies, but would not destroy them. Quote "In this way we can direct the evolution of bacteria in the way we want," Austin said. "We can let fitness selection guide the evolution of a species toward our externally determined goal." -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,18:08    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 02 2007,18:03) nano-eco systems. I wonder what speculations sal can come up with?     Quote Should a bacterium find life in one chamber inhospitable, escape routes beckon: Two narrow corridors lead through opposite walls into the adjacent chambers. But the corridors are 50 micrometers long – a decent hike by bacterial standards – and any would-be colonists might have to traverse several relatively poor areas before finding one that seems livable. While the new residents try to make the best of their surroundings, their offspring adapt even more. They often thrive in a chamber that would have been marginally comfortable for their ancestors. Ecologists would say they have adapted to a different "niche" in the landscape. nanowerk   Quote "The basic idea is directed evolution," Austin said. "By observing the growth of different groups of bacteria in different chambers, we can also monitor each chamber for a desirable product, in this case hydrogen gas. We can reward those populations that produce lots of gas by giving them more food and space. Conversely, we would 'punish' underachieving bacterial colonies, but would not destroy them.   Quote "In this way we can direct the evolution of bacteria in the way we want," Austin said. "We can let fitness selection guide the evolution of a species toward our externally determined goal." Will the Intelligent Designer get involved? We'll know He did when a flagellum appears out of nowhere. We'd better get Behe on the project posthaste!! -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,18:14    Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 02 2007,12:53) You are talking to a gal who used to catch snakes and scare the other girls That's it --- I'm in love. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,18:26    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 02 2007,16:18) It appears Sal is taking David Berlinski's lead now when writing more drivel  as a GIS of the quote he uses from Godel seems to show. Oddly (or not) the essay that the single result links to is called "The End of Materialist Science". Not surprising perhaps for a fellow of the disco institute. Sal then goes on to say     Quote (Hat Tip: Dr. Albert Voie and others who alerted me to this article) Yeah, and don't forget to pass credit to the discovery institute as well, or is that not politically correct over at UD? Odd, as usually they love to detail their sources.... When I read that I did a double take, because for some reason I thought Sal had been promoted to a fellow at the DI (my brain shuts down on Fridays after work.)  After I clicked the link and realized that you were talking about Berlinski I had to laugh about how bad Sycophant Sal wants to be part of the DI in-crowd, but he just can't get in. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Feb. 02 2007,19:55

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,19:08    Quote (2ndclass @ Feb. 02 2007,17:08) DaveScot, Feb. 1:   Quote Got link? DaveScot, Feb 2:   Quote I ban people for making me do research they should be doing for themselves. Consider yourself warned. Nice.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,20:16    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 02 2007,18:52) Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 02 2007,09:34) http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2018 I'm thinking the Biologic lab staff shakes down like this: 4 Flash animators 3 Writers 4 voiceover artists 2 Still life artists etc. There's got to be a guy who keeps the ventilation running. Don't forget the doorman. Stormin'  Springer The Activist Reactionary Doorman (T.A.R.D) for the Biologic 'lab -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,20:35    I'm reading that Harper's article on Doverloo that someone on AtBC lank to earlier, and I'm struck again by how much integrity Judge Jones had. In a world where the current administration abuses science like they do, and Republican tards like Hannity and Limbaugh happily trash science, I have a some respect for a conservative christian who listens to the evidence for Intelligent Design and calls "Shenanigans!"

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,20:59    from the same article: Quote Knowing that Stephen Harvey was about to question him, one almost felt pity. Harvey, a prematurely gray-haired man in possession of the best suits at the trial -- and a Republican, it would turn out -- was a man whose considerable personal charm and boyish smile disappeared entirely during cross-examination and was replaced by a cold intensity that was almost frightening to behold. Buckingham, a 1973 graduate of the Penn State Police Academy, had attended the FBI criminal-investigation school. Before he retired, he was a supervisor at York County Prison. He testified in a low, mildly surly voice, a whine of self-pity always present underneath. He was unashamedly ignorant and utterly devoid of curiosity. He believed, he stated, in a literal reading of the Book of Genesis. He knew almost nothing about evolution except that "it's happenstance, it just happened," and soon revealed an equal ignorance of intelligent design. "I just know that it's another scientific theory that we thought would be good to have presented to the students." Worse even than his ignorance were his lies. The most important part of his testimony, and the source of one of the most dramatic moments in court, was his contention that neither he nor board president Alan Bonsell had ever used the word "creationism" in the afore-reported school board meetings. They had been fixed on the scientific theory of intelligent design from the start. Their intent had never been religious. The reporters had lied. "Now," Harvey countered, "it's your testimony that at neither meeting no one on the board ever mentioned creationism, isn't that right?" "That's true." "You're very clear on that point, correct?" "Absolutely, because it's just something we didn't do." Harvey asked him if he'd mind looking at exhibit P-145. The Wizard of Oz tapped a few buttons and there was Buckingham being interviewed by a local TV news reporter outside a school board meeting at which the current biology book had just been discussed. "The book that was presented to me," Buckingham said on the video, "was laced with Darwinism from beginning to end. It's okay to teach Darwin, but you have to balance it with something else, such as creationism." (wincing) it's like watching someone get hit by a crowbar.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,21:07    For the movie version of Doverloo, it's too bad Amrish Puri is dead. the whole trial could be summarized by, Michael Behe is ceremoniously tied to the witness stand, and Mola Ram Rothschild walks up, sticks his hand in Behe's chest, pulls out his heart, pours some Heinz 57 on it, and starts munching.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,21:57    This Matthew Chapman article is like Penthouse Forum for science geeks. Quote Steve Harvey, who had the plum job of cross-examining Bonsell, now took him back to his deposition. It soon became abundantly clear that Bonsell knew -- and had known at his deposition -- the exact provenance of the books. He had lied under oath.[2] The exact motivation for lying in the first place never became entirely clear to me, but whatever it was, it did not cause the judge to be happy. Where're my Camels? I need a smoke.

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,22:20    Quote 3 amadan 02/02/2007 8:24 pm DaveScot: Nothing in the blog entries you link to suggests that Gorski is a “shill” for drug companies, IMO. He makes reasonable points about over-hyping, about the evils of promoting false hopes, and the dangers of bypassing proper scrutiny when assessing research proposals. However, you are right to be offended by his characterisation of you as intolerant and unamenable to persuasion. I suggest you respond, pointing out the broad range of opinions that are aired on this forum. You could also point to the hidden censorship of the Darwinist ’scientific’ establishment, with its jackboot “peer review”. Dave pauses a LONG time, trying to decide if this is flattery or sarcasm.  Can't decide.  (Me neither) -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,22:31    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 02 2007,22:20)   Quote 3 amadan 02/02/2007 8:24 pm DaveScot: Nothing in the blog entries you link to suggests that Gorski is a “shill” for drug companies, IMO. He makes reasonable points about over-hyping, about the evils of promoting false hopes, and the dangers of bypassing proper scrutiny when assessing research proposals. However, you are right to be offended by his characterisation of you as intolerant and unamenable to persuasion. I suggest you respond, pointing out the broad range of opinions that are aired on this forum. You could also point to the hidden censorship of the Darwinist ’scientific’ establishment, with its jackboot “peer review”. Dave pauses a LONG time, trying to decide if this is flattery or sarcasm.  Can't decide.  (Me neither) The phrase "jackboot peer review" must be used for something. Anyone out there thinking of starting a blog and can't decide what to call it?   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,22:33    Quote When I was about 11, I was taken to an "exorcism" by my mother. Great childhood I had. phonon; holy crap (literally)! for reals? -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,22:37    Quote Kristine - EEEWWWWWWW !! Total yuck that you could even think of this, let alone subject us to these ugly, viscious word pictures!  (Please see the Civility Thread, where we are not allowed to assult other posters).   EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW! uh, hate to make you even sicker there, Jdog, but have you ever seen a picture of WD40's wife? she's a real looker, to say the least. at least some women must find weak chins, glasses, and cognitive dissonance written in books for profit attractive. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2007,22:38    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 02 2007,20:59) from the same article: Quote Knowing that Stephen Harvey was about to question him, one almost felt pity. Harvey, a prematurely gray-haired man in possession of the best suits at the trial -- and a Republican, it would turn out -- was a man whose considerable personal charm and boyish smile disappeared entirely during cross-examination and was replaced by a cold intensity that was almost frightening to behold. Buckingham, a 1973 graduate of the Penn State Police Academy, had attended the FBI criminal-investigation school. Before he retired, he was a supervisor at York County Prison. He testified in a low, mildly surly voice, a whine of self-pity always present underneath. He was unashamedly ignorant and utterly devoid of curiosity. He believed, he stated, in a literal reading of the Book of Genesis. He knew almost nothing about evolution except that "it's happenstance, it just happened," and soon revealed an equal ignorance of intelligent design. "I just know that it's another scientific theory that we thought would be good to have presented to the students." Worse even than his ignorance were his lies. The most important part of his testimony, and the source of one of the most dramatic moments in court, was his contention that neither he nor board president Alan Bonsell had ever used the word "creationism" in the afore-reported school board meetings. They had been fixed on the scientific theory of intelligent design from the start. Their intent had never been religious. The reporters had lied. "Now," Harvey countered, "it's your testimony that at neither meeting no one on the board ever mentioned creationism, isn't that right?" "That's true." "You're very clear on that point, correct?" "Absolutely, because it's just something we didn't do." Harvey asked him if he'd mind looking at exhibit P-145. The Wizard of Oz tapped a few buttons and there was Buckingham being interviewed by a local TV news reporter outside a school board meeting at which the current biology book had just been discussed. "The book that was presented to me," Buckingham said on the video, "was laced with Darwinism from beginning to end. It's okay to teach Darwin, but you have to balance it with something else, such as creationism." (wincing) it's like watching someone get hit by a crowbar. I hope you don't ban me for asking, but what's the link for that? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2007,00:13    Quote uh, hate to make you even sicker there, Jdog, but have you ever seen a picture of WD40's wife? she's a real looker, to say the least. at least some women must find weak chins, glasses, and cognitive dissonance written in books for profit attractive. Yeah, I've heard she's a doll and I'm curious. I probably come up to Mr. Dembski's knees anyway so don't worry, J-Dog. I'm not exactly a tall gal. (Besides, you love my freaking you out--you know you do.) But I must say, I find the cognitive dissonance to be distinctly unattractive. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

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