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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,15:09   

Quote (IAMB @ Feb. 01 2007,14:51)
Can I back things up a minute to bring up something that's driving me nuts? Good...

I've been following this whole Ujvarosy crap ever since quizzlestick first posted, and the OE folks keep referring to him as "Dr." Ujvarosy. I've been looking around for a week now (mostly because I only ever managed to find one publication from Kaz), and nothing I've seen anywhere, including his own website, indicates that he has any sort of advanced degree at all. Am I looking in the wrong place, or is anyone crazy enough to advocate man-mustard consumption as a medical breakthrough automatically awarded a doctorate by these stupid fucks?

Good lord, you didn't invent the term 'man mustard', DID you? :O

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IAMB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,15:41   

An old friend was the first one I ever heard use it, but we can't be the only ones. Everyone on talk.origins seemed to know what I meant anyway. What can I say? If the shoe fits...

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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,16:10   

OK, guys (and shimmiers)--the last 382 pages have been highly amusing and educational, but...

...we now have a new "civility" policy.

So, for starters, so that davetard's feelings--such as they may be--won't be hurt and his freedom of expression won't be stifled, we're going to need a new apellation for his davetardness that doesn't include the 'tard part.

All civil suggestions are, hereby, most civilly solicited.

And, no, I don't think that daveturd is going to cut the, er, mustard.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,16:22   

Davetard gets grandfathered in. And he's not here. I think I made a distinction about treating people *here* respectfully. A little snark is acceptable.

   
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,16:46   

Since we're all being all civil and like, stuff here, I'd like to complain about Richardthughes, who called me a weenur while you weren't looking, steve. Plus he makes faces at me and he smells funny.
Joking. Humor. haha?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,17:19   

UD would be proud:
whitehouse.org censors the phrase "global warming"

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,18:57   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 01 2007,16:22)
I think I made a distinction about treating people *here* respectfully.

What if it's someone we . . . uh . . . have no respect for?

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,18:59   

Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 01 2007,22:55)
It's just come to my attention that everyone on this board is all picking on my little brother DaveScott.  

Well isn't that just great.  We bring you fire, culture and the basis of your pathetic life you call civilization,  and this is what we get.  I am getting just a little bit tired of it.  And this time you will not be able to buy me off with the roast duck with mango salsa.  I've lost my appetite.

He calls me every day you know, and cries, real tears just like you.  He wants to be smart like you, but he knows he is just not, and he just gets so frustrated!  He lashes out, because he wants to be so much like you all, and he just can't do it.  

His "IQ of 150+"?  It's really 15.  His "work at Dell"? Sweeping the floors... If only you knew how much he wants to be like you!  

And I gave him that "Word Of The Day Calendar", so he can use big words like k.e. and Louis too... even if he doesn't always know what they mean, it doesn't mean you have to make fun of him.  Does It?  Don't you think he got enough teasing back in grade school?  How would you all like it if you had to repeat 2nd grade... 4 times!

How would you like it if you had to spend more than $100 clams a week on depilatories to keep hair off you back to try and fit in?  Well just be a little more thoughtful of those not as fortunate as yourselves from now on, okay?

Awwww....I'm feeling reaaaaly sorry now.

GTFOOH.

Look at this Another Record Month for Uncommon Descent

.....the AtBC peanut gallery  boost UD AGAIN and why?

ME, THAT'S  WHO. TARD THE BLOGGERY AND PEOPLE WILL COME.
NO TARD NO TRAFFIC.
CURE TEH TARD AND HOMOS WILL TAKE OVER TEH PLACE AND TALK ABOUT EATING MAN MUSTARD AND GOD HELP ME BILL IS RUNNING OUT OF IT ALREADY.-DT

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:00   

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What if it's someone we . . . uh . . . have no respect for?


i guess he's asking us to just ignore them.

this place is gonna get awfully quiet.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:06   

Quote (Ichthyic @ Feb. 01 2007,19:00)
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What if it's someone we . . . uh . . . have no respect for?


i guess he's asking us to just ignore them.

this place is gonna get awfully quiet.

I think Steve is only saying no bashing people when they're actually here. In other words, be respectful towards them when we're actually talking to them. Don't chase people out by abusing them.

From what I can tell, we're still free to speculate on what Dave Scot's mother really did for a living, or whether Sal Cordova might possibly have been dropped on his head at a vulnerable age, or how far along Davison's age-related dementia has progressed this week.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:14   

Be decent to the people here, but don't be *too* indecent to anyone, here or not.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:14   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 01 2007,19:06)
I think Steve is only saying no bashing people when they're actually here. In other words, be respectful towards them when we're actually talking to them. Don't chase people out by abusing them.

So if Sal shows his face around here again, I can't call him a gonadless coward for not answering the simple questions I've BEEN asking him for the past few years?

And when he promptly tucks his tail firmly between his legs and runs away, as he has ALWAYS done for the past few years, it'll be all MY fault for hurting his little feelings . . . . . ?

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:19   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 01 2007,19:06)
Quote (Ichthyic @ Feb. 01 2007,19:00)
 
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What if it's someone we . . . uh . . . have no respect for?


i guess he's asking us to just ignore them.

this place is gonna get awfully quiet.

I think Steve is only saying no bashing people when they're actually here. In other words, be respectful towards them when we're actually talking to them. Don't chase people out by abusing them.

From what I can tell, we're still free to speculate on what Dave Scot's mother really did for a living, or whether Sal Cordova might possibly have been dropped on his head at a vulnerable age, or how far along Davison's age-related dementia has progressed this week.

But . . .  um, what if we're talking to someone who is actually here that . . . uh . . . we don't have any respect for . . . . ?

Ya know, like  . . . say . . .  AFDave? Or Paley?

Ya mean we gotta be RESPECTFUL towards AFDAVE and PALEY ??????

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:20   

Aw shit, I just realized, this doesn't mean we have to start being nice to Paley, does it????

I think Paley and AFD should be 'grandfathered in' as well. Abusing them is a venerable tradition. I think they actually ENJOY it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:24   

Compare and Contrast:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2014

with

http://scienceblogs.com/insolen....ted.php

(the 'mudphud' that Dave wanted to "shut the **** up")

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:36   

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Be decent to the people here, but don't be *too* indecent to anyone, here or not.

Gah, first social strictures make me quit smoking and drinking and mainlining PCP and now THIS? What's next? Will I have to give up my baby-gerbil-filled codpiece ?

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:47   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Feb. 01 2007,19:36)
Gah, first social strictures make me quit smoking and drinking and mainlining PCP and now THIS? What's next? Will I have to give up my baby-gerbil-filled codpiece ?

Dude, they'll get my rodent-filled codpiece when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. . . . . .

;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:48   

Joseph cites yet another prominent scientist:
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Kevin Trudeau (”Natural Cures” fame) talks about how (some) cancers cannot surivive in an oxygen-rich environment. And that is the reasoning behind intravenous peroxide drips.

However not enough money can be made by employing that method so it’s not popular in the USA.
Didn't he put a disclaimer in his newest book saying that you shouldn't take any of it seriously, most likely in order to avoid getting sued?

Also, Dave says something peculiar:
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It was also done on rats infected with human cancers.

I'll have to do some research on this one, and maybe D'Tard's right, but it seems to me that the nature of cancers (except perhaps some of the virus-induced ones) are necessarily species-specific. As in, a proliferation of the individual's own cells.

My money's on my intuition over Dave's interpretation of a study... we'll see.

EDIT: I lose!
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A cell suspension of A549 cells in PBS (3 × 106 cells per injection) was injected subcutaneously into nude athymic rats. Rats were divided into control (no treatment), prevention, and reversal groups, and two protocols were followed. In protocol a, rats were followed for 5 weeks: the prevention group was treated for 5 weeks and the reversal group for 3 (weeks 3–5). In protocol b, rats were followed for 12 weeks, with the prevention group treated for 12 weeks and the reversal group from week 10 to week 12. In both protocols, DCA (0.075 g/l) was added to the drinking water. By measuring the amount of water consumed, we calculated and adjusted the concentration of DCA required to achieve a daily dose similar to that used clinically (50–100 mg/kg) (McMurtry et al., 2004 and Stacpoole et al., 2006) Rats were observed weekly for the appearance of tumors at injection sites, and tumor size was measured every week with calipers in the three groups.


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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:52   

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Dude, they'll get my rodent-filled codpiece when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. . . . . .


don't you have to be carefull around the snakes when wearing that thing, Lenny?

(left an obvious line wide open here...)

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,19:59   

Quote (Ichthyic @ Feb. 01 2007,19:52)
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Dude, they'll get my rodent-filled codpiece when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. . . . . .


don't you have to be carefull around the snakes when wearing that thing, Lenny?

(left an obvious line wide open here...)

Duuuuuude, I'm trying to be . . . ya know . ..  DECENT here . . . . .


;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:07   

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UD would be proud:
whitehouse.org censors the phrase "global warming"
And how. This takes the shimmy cake:
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Here's where things get really funny: they weren't very competent when it came to getting their search engine to eliminate global warming. If you put global warming in quotes, you get no hits. If you type global warming in without the quotes, you get 4500+ hits, most of which contain the phrase "global warming," and should have been turned up in the first search.

A quick explanation is probably in order here for those who aren't familiar with the working of search engines. When you type more than one word into a search box [which I nearly always do because I like oodles of info!] :) the search engine has to decide what you are really asking for. Most search engines, including both Google's and the White House's, decide that you want to see the pages that contain all of the words in the box, but that you don't care if those words appear in that order, or even near each other in the document. That can give you a lot more hits than you can deal with sometimes, so they built in a way to tell the search engine that you really do care about the word order. If you put your search phrase in quotes, it tells the search engine to show you just the pages that contain exactly that phrase.
Boolah, boolah, boolean! Oh, sorry, that's Harvard, not Yale.  ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:15   

So, under the new "Civility Run Amuck Policy", or CRAP, we can no longer link Man MusTARD and DaveTARD?  

Can we still link DaveTard's fervid verbal outpourings with a Big Pile of Smelly Human Feces?

Can we still link Dr. Dembski with weasels, or is that tooo much of an insult to weasels?

Guidelines!  We MUST have guidelines!

Inquiring Minds Want To Know!

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:41   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 01 2007,19:20)
Aw shit

Hey, are you allowed to say that . . . . ?


Someone might get offended, ya know . . . . .

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:44   

all fine, just remember that if they come here to actually debate something of substance, the focus should be on the substance and not on their tarddom.

of course that implies there is anything of substance left that hasn't already been addressed.

in Airhead Dave's case, there was nothing left to address BUT his tarddom, hence the thread was finally locked.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:50   

So, how long, ya think, till the dolts over at UD start crowing "See?  Evolution makes you so mean and rude they can't even tolerate it themselves !!!!!!!"  ?







Sorry, is it uncivil to refer to the UD dolts as "dolts"?  

Are any of them actually HERE?

If so, could you please leave, so I can call you a dolt?  Thanks.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:55   

Quote (Ichthyic @ Feb. 01 2007,20:44)
all fine, just remember that if they come here to actually debate something of substance, the focus should be on the substance and not on their tarddom.

of course that implies there is anything of substance left that hasn't already been addressed.

in Airhead Dave's case, there was nothing left to address BUT his tarddom, hence the thread was finally locked.

In that case, every thread from now on will consist of:


"CREATIONIST:  Hey, here's something of substance.

US:  Um, your 'something of substance' is a load of crap.

MODERATOR:  OK, substance is gone.  Thread locked."

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,20:56   

But, uh, if they actually were capable of coming here to debate something of substance, then they wouldn't be tards in the first place...

I'm not entirely clear why we can't say a tard's a tard.

Woah!  I get it!  If we let them portray their own selves as tards, rather than us falling all over ourselves to point it out, it just makes them look all the tardlier in the long run...!  Kinduva rope:hang thang...!

Boy howdy, stevestory, that is some kinda twisted wicked "civility" you be "requiring"!

This could work out to be pretty dang entertaining.

It's worth a trial run, anyway.

  
Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,21:07   

simple as it was, PZ started something that seems to work out (with reminders):

any new topic/poster:

let them post 3 times and ask legit questions before hitting them with a hammer.

maybe that would work here too?

example:

Hunter starts a new topic in his thread, or poses a new question NOT directly rehashing his original post.

respond politely, asking him to clarify.  if he does so successfully, this resets the "timer".

he gets three chances to actually do so before opening fire.

seems to work when PZ reminds folks of that rule in the more contentious threads.

past three chances, it becomes obvious that the poster hasn't a clue what they're on about, and the egg-throwing can commence.

I would be happy to submit myself to the same rule.

If i can't clarify or back up a point i make in three separate posts, gees I'd already recognize i have egg on my face and would welcome abuse from fellow posters.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,21:09   

PZ banned Heddle. I don't see a reason to do that here. Did PZ ban Lenny, or am I misremembering?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2007,21:15   

On PT, I think Lenny is only "banned" from PZ-initiated posts.

I can't remember what the deal is on Pharyngula, but then that's truly PZ's very own personal blog, where he can do what he wants.  I don't consider that either Lenny (or me) really have any vested interest there, so PZ can rule that roost as he wishes.  Though I'm generally a PZ fan, I'm a tad more concerned when PZ's actions on PT give the impression of "watering down" PT's no-cencorship policy.

  
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