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jujuquisp



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,06:02   

I don't drink beer.  It tastes like chilled, glorified vomit to me.  And believe Arden, he knows what that tastes like.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,09:04   

Quote (jujuquisp @ Mar. 12 2007,05:02)
I don't drink beer.  It tastes like chilled, glorified vomit to me.  And believe Arden, he knows what that tastes like.

I have no idea what you're referring to.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,09:20   

Is glorified vomit like glorified rice? :p

Meanwhile, at the convent, it's anyone-who's-not-a-friend-of-Dawkins-is-a-friend-of-mine hour (not to be confused with "Happy Hour").

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,09:36   

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I feel the attempts at humor will be lost, at [sic, or is that hic] it will be impossible to distinguish genuine admiration from parody.

Heh. Of course it's going to be lost! (We'll set aside the question of whether it's really "humor" for the moment.) The "world's going to end," the "sun is going to blow up," and it will come to nothing, nothing, nothing. So have your yucks now, you repressed little couch taters. Write po-wetry! Cut loose! Fly! Be free! :D  That's the spirit, Dembski, I knew you'd rebound. :p

Did people catch this?  
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Have you ever done some work, or some task, and then had it completed wiped away? ...maybe you made a sand castle at the beach and the waves destroyed it immediately. Have you ever had the thought, “I just wasted my time.”...If you have, why does this sense of “wasted time” apply to events in our lives and not to our lives as a whole, or to the universe as a whole? In other words, if everything will eventually be wiped away, if there is no afterlife, then how can we avoid the conclusion that it was all a waste of time? How might you persuade someone to avoid this “wasted time” conclusion, given your worldview?
YOU'RE AN ID-BELIEVER AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WASTED TIME?

This relates directly to the "If there's nothing to ID, why do the 'Darwinists' pick on us so much?"

BECAUSE IT'S SO #### FUN!

Because I don't want all you UDudes to go nihilist on me when ID is likewise dumped on history's trash heap. Then you can tell me how to keep your hope in an ID afterlife.

The journey is the destination!  :)  *Lights incense*

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Occam's Toothbrush



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,11:43   

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Have you ever done some work, or some task, and then had it completed wiped away? ...maybe you made a sand castle at the beach and the waves destroyed it immediately. Have you ever had the thought, "I just wasted my time."

The answer is yes.  Yes, I have tried to make a logical, evidence-based comment at Uncommon Descent.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,11:52   

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Have you ever done some work, or some task, and then had it completed wiped away? ...maybe you made a sand castle at the beach and the waves destroyed it immediately. Have you ever had the thought, "I just wasted my time."  
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The answer is yes.  Yes, I have tried to make a logical, evidence-based comment at Uncommon Descent.

!!! :D ROFLMAO! Why didn't I think of that! Naturally Occam's got a razor-sharp wit.  ;)

You guys give me purpose to my life.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,14:20   

The sun is setting   on intelligent design
(judging by the level of new thinking coming from UD, ARN and ISCID) and so we say farewell to the ambitions of Dembski et al.

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,14:24   

Actually, I was feeling left out as I hadn't got a good beer piccie to post. And why did it look all neatly centred in preview and now looks all amateur in the thread ???

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,14:32   

If the sun's setting on ID then get ready for Intelligent Geology over at OW!
 
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I was wondering if perhaps mountains and coastlines, sand dunes, and other interesting natural shapes might better be explained by the sculpting hands of an intelligent creator than by erosional forces.

Id in geology
Patrick says no  
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No, for these mountain ranges the Explanatory Filter would return a negative since natural law can explain the object. Now I said "most" in the subject header since there are underwater "cities/temples" where there is a controversy over whether they came about by geological processes. The reason there is any controversy at all is because accepting them as being designed would upset historical narratives (they're older than they "should be"). But ID hasn't been used at all in that case as far as I know. I've always thought it'd make an interesting test case.

My bold.
Patrick, there's the boat. Get out there and apply the Explanatory Filter to every odd looking lump of rock under the sea. When you find Atlantis, let me know!
Honestly, if Patrick thinks the EF can help determine if these "ruins" really are designed or not, well, Email the people looking into it and tell them how! Do you need us to find some links?

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,14:58   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 12 2007,08:32)
If the sun's setting on ID then get ready for Intelligent Geology over at OW!
   
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I was wondering if perhaps mountains and coastlines, sand dunes, and other interesting natural shapes might better be explained by the sculpting hands of an intelligent creator than by erosional forces.

Id in geology
Patrick says no      
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No, for these mountain ranges the Explanatory Filter would return a negative since natural law can explain the object. Now I said "most" in the subject header since there are underwater "cities/temples" where there is a controversy over whether they came about by geological processes. The reason there is any controversy at all is because accepting them as being designed would upset historical narratives (they're older than they "should be"). But ID hasn't been used at all in that case as far as I know. I've always thought it'd make an interesting test case.

My bold.
Patrick, there's the boat. Get out there and apply the Explanatory Filter to every odd looking lump of rock under the sea. When you find Atlantis, let me know!
Honestly, if Patrick thinks the EF can help determine if these "ruins" really are designed or not, well, Email the people looking into it and tell them how! Do you need us to find some links?

It appears there's plenty of material for Patrick's research  :) Come on Patrick, make a name for yourself.

  
Faylen



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,15:26   

I'm all confused now.  I thought all the canyons and mountains and everything were carved out by Noah's flood.  If that's not Intelligent Design, I don't know what is.  Filtering that explanation will lead down a slippery slope, I tell ya.

  
IAMB



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,16:29   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 11 2007,22:13)
One word: Guiness. I had two last night - yeah, that's pretty light for me. *Winks at J-Dog* With a steak and mash and a big ice cream sundae!

Guinness: in my humble opinion only drinkable when served on tap at room temperature or slightly chilled. Otherwise a bit too bitter.

Then again, I'm a liquor drinker...

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,16:30   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 11 2007,20:37)
I was at the Dead Mule Club today getting liquored up and watching the NC State / UNC game for the ACC championship, (sniparooni of irrelevant-to-this-reply stuff)

Go Pack!

crap.  Goddamned 'Heels.

(Disclaimer:  I am required to be a Pack fan 'cause my cuz went there and I have a State hat.)

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,16:37   

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Guinness: in my humble opinion only drinkable when served on tap at room temperature or slightly chilled.
And if it takes the requisite 10 minutes to pour. (It comes in a can now! Off with their heads! :O )
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I'm all confused now.  I thought all the canyons and mountains and everything were carved out by Noah's flood.  If that's not Intelligent Design, I don't know what is.  Filtering that explanation will lead down a slippery slope, I tell ya.
Not to mention that the "undesigned" pretty mountains are Michael Behe's control for detecting "design" in "designed" thingies, like mousetraps and flagella.

Actually, this development is hilarious. It throws the whole EF and irreducible complexity into the canyon. :) If everything's designed, how are you tsupposed to be able to tell?

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2ndclass



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,17:00   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 12 2007,15:37)
Actually, this development is hilarious. It throws the whole EF and irreducible complexity into the canyon. :) If everything's designed, how are you tsupposed to be able to tell?

Silly Kristine.  Not all mountains are designed.  Only the pretty ones.

I'm guessing that quintilis is a socket puppet invented by Patrick for the sole purpose of cranking out posts so ludicrous that they overshadow Patrick's inanity in plagiarizing Crichton.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,17:13   

Re "Not all mountains are designed.  Only the pretty ones."

Huh. So Pike's Peak is designed when its snow capped, but not designed when its just brown rock?  :p

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,17:18   

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I'm guessing that quintilis is a socket puppet invented by Patrick for the sole purpose of cranking out posts so ludicrous that they overshadow Patrick's inanity in plagiarizing Crichton.

You think? I can't quite believe they are allowing it to stay up there - imagine how the ID curious students will take it!
   quintilis:  
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With this in mind, I think our government should be pumping billions of dollars into careful analysis of genomes in a hunt for messages from our designer. While we might not turn up anything in a year or even twenty, imagine what would happen if we found just even a limerick about Nantucket on, say, the human Y chromosome?

Honestly :)

  quintilis  
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To an observer looking at the evidence, the result can look a lot like structures somehow modifying themselves over the course of generations (perhaps through the hocus pocus of natural selection), but anyone with any sense can see that these are modifications of underlying designs that came from OUTSIDE the natural world


My Bold!It's classic stuff. I mean, how credulous is Patrick anyway? Is he like 13 years old? I think he just accepts the premise that is just is that way and everything else is just filling in the details.
I mean, sombody told him something years ago
Patrick:  
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because accepting them as being designed would upset historical narratives (they're older than they "should be").

And forever more things are as they "should be" and if not you are wrong! muh-huh!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,17:51   

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Silly Kristine.  Not all mountains are designed.  Only the pretty ones.

Is that pretty sunset on intelligent design designed too? ID suicide? Shore is puurrrrty...  :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,18:13   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 12 2007,16:37)
Not to mention that the "undesigned" pretty mountains are Michael Behe's control for detecting "design" in "designed" thingies, like mousetraps and flagella.

Actually, this development is hilarious. It throws the whole EF and irreducible complexity into the canyon. :) If everything's designed, how are you supposed to be able to tell?

One of the dumber internal inconsistencies of ID is that the EF rules out any immediate consequences of natural law, and yet many IDers believe that natural law was designed to produce such consequences. ID is such a nonstarter it's embarrassing. If all ID can do is distinguish design from non-design, and it allowed Paley to distinguish the watch from the weeds, what's that imply about the weeds?

ID is the kind of poor thinking that results from zealots wanting scientific butressing.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,18:23   

Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 12 2007,17:13)
ID is the kind of poor thinking that results from zealots wanting scientific butressing.

For some reason , I thought this was the Ann Coulter post again.

I can certainly understand DaveScott, Dembski and Patrick needing, deserving and receiving a good old-fashioned  "scientific buttressing"...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,20:29   

JoeG            
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Mate selection (in many organisms) is random. IOW there is no telling who will mate with who. Humans are a great example of this.

Uncommon Descent denizen, Joseph, is now insisting that mate selection in humans is random. Of course, this ignores Helen of Troy whose face launched a thousand ships. And the high school dating scene. And the going rate for prostitutes. And why they always talk up your blind-date's personality. And why that rich guy with the fancy car and perfect teeth is always surrounded by young buxom blonds. And why having a 'lady wingman' works. And gossip. And glamour magazines. And sexual magnetism. And Vive la Difference! And why you never mess with a mobster's trophy spouse. And why only eunuchs work in the Sultan's harem.

Helen of Troy


teleologist            
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JoeG, I commend you for being tenacious.

Hear! Hear!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,21:03   

gpuccio  
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By the way, and speaking of intellectual persecution, have you ever checked the site of the Department of Biological Sciences, at Lehigh University, where Behe works?

Please compare Behe’s very dignified disclaimer here:

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/faculty/behe.html

with the shameful “claimer” of one of his colleagues here:

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/itzkowtz.html

or with the following “politically correct” citations on the pages of other members of the staff:

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/.....asands.htm

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/faculty/barry.htm

and, finally, with the “official” statement of the department here:

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/news/evolution.htm

Evidently, a single man is creating much embarassment to a lot of “respectable” scientists, just by thinking freely in the same institution! No further comment needed…

On Behe's website, there is a picture of a mousetrap (with the parts labeled).



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,21:28   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 12 2007,08:36)
The journey is the destination!  :)  *Lights incense*

"The gurney is the reward."

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,21:33   

While everyone is checking those links gpuccio kindly provided it's probably worth checking out the recent publication records of all those scientists and trying to spot the odd one out. Presumably the reviewers of Behes research are reading those shameful comments by his colleagues and rejecting his papers.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,22:28   

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The journey is the destination!


Only birkenstock-wearing, lice-infested, liberal hippies think like that.  Go finish you're journey somewhere else, homo. - dt

Sorry, it was my first time using the Voice.   :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,22:44   

Quote (someotherguy @ Mar. 12 2007,21:28)
 
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The journey is the destination!


Only birkenstock-wearing, lice-infested, liberal hippies think like that.  Go finish you're journey somewhere else, homo. - dt

Sorry, it was my first time using the Voice.   :)

Okay, take a break there, big fella. Don't push yourself too hard. Pace yourself.

After you've had a little more practice and you feel like you're ready, you can shift to all caps.

:p

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,22:45   

Quick to the Behe mobile joeman!

uh....sir the wheels fell off it in Dover. We had to use breathtaking inanity to get it home.

Why the sudden interest in Behe again?

Has Buffaloeing Bill given up the unholy ghost of Paleys past?

Our hero joeman sits at the crossroads not realizing he is sitting on Pozo's blog.


(Pozo..A cruel but lyrically gifted man who claims to own the land they stand on, and his servant Lucky, whom he appears to control by means of a lengthy rope. Pozzo sits down to feast on chicken, and afterwards throws the bones to the two tramps.

He entertains them by directing Lucky to perform a lively dance, and then deliver an ex tempore lecture, loosely based around the theories of the Irish philosopher Bishop Berkeley.

After Pozzo and Lucky depart, a boy arrives with a message supposedly from Godot, which states that Godot will not come today, "but surely to-morrow."

The boy also confesses that Godot beats his brother and that he and his brother sleep in the loft of a barn.
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............Act I" Waiting for Godot"

Only the names have changed.

WHO ARE YOU CALLING LUCKY, HOMO?-dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2007,23:53   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 11 2007,18:19)
Dembski's starting to sound like Denyse. Except that he's giving it away.

How much does D.O. usually charge?

Can't be much.

I doubt that Billy could give it away.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2007,00:45   

Somebody got it, finally!  :D  But you're too hard on poor Bill. He's just a Bill, he's only a Bill, not sittin' there on Capitol Hill.
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Only birkenstock-wearing, lice-infested, liberal hippies think like that.  Go finish you're journey somewhere else, homo. - dt
Shouldn't that be homa?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2007,01:21   

Pro ID doc gets reamed at UD:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....comment

TABLOID HEADLINE TASTIC, HOMOS.

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