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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,18:58   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 23 2012,15:58)
If I write a LOGO program to move a robot turtle, does that prove all turtles are robots?  

If you wrote a LOGO program that controlled a robot turtle that pulled a little wagon containing a real turtle then I think you would have earned Six Globes.

In fact, Six Globes, an Asteroid Belt with a silver fuck cluster and a Captain Universe cape.

(I hear Orion slave girls really go for guys with six globes, just sayin' .)

The only thing GaryBillyBobby has earned is a red tunic.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,19:25   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 23 2012,16:54)
Wow.. this epic tale of subverting science happened in a total of FIVE VOTES.

Have a word with yourself Gary. You need help, you're paranoid.

With the comments section having a self-conquering "bobghengiskhan" in it, it's more like a battle against cartoon characters, dreamed up by trolls, testing the limits of your imagination.

Even though (for me) the few who did protest were enough to lead to a worsening depression, Planet Source Code came to my emotional rescue with an award which made it clear enough to all that they can't take the protest seriously either.

I could not ask for better, in how that all turned out. And it's still like the Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer that also has human "development" at the beginning to help dance in the new stuff.

I am still just following the common ordinary scientific method to develop what is possible from the premise of the "Theory of Intelligent Design" which I also display in my signature line so all have no good excuse for messing up that simple sentence, by embellishing it.

This theory is for all who wanted to see "scientists" at least try to come up with with something. And I have my ways of making sure that happens by forcing all (without exceptions) to follow the scientific method to the very letter then see what they throw at it. You'll end up the one with reason to be paranoid, while I just tell you I warned you about not taking this theory seriously.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,20:16   

Heddle, have you read this post by gary?

If so, could you tell us what you think of it?

(Heddle, Gary, is a practicing scientist and ID-friendly.)

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,20:41   

Gary, let me give you an example of the scientific method from my life, circa 2003:

My boss: Hey steve, do you suppose we could characterize the surface energy of blends of polystyrene and poly(methyl methacrylate) by using gold nanoparticles?

(That's called a hypothesis Gary)

Me: I don't know. I'll go see.

(over the next several days I create 8 or 10 different blends of PS and PMMA solutions in toluene, spin coat them into ~100 nm films on UV/ozone-cleaned SiOx, whip up a batch of gold nanoparticles suspended in water, estimate the films' surface energy using a goniometer and Young's relation, expose each of them to the nanoparticle solution for a while, dry them, then count the particles on each sample for a given surface area. Then I plot the results on a particles vs surface energy graph.

( That's called testing the hypothesis, Gary)

Regression showed a correlation coefficient of damn near zero.

(That's called rejecting the hypothesis, Gary)

Me: No, Boss, can't use gold nanoparticles to characterize surface energy as far as I can tell.

That's using the scientific method. Writing a VB program of a bug getting eyeballs and babbling for 40 pages about Molecular Intelligence is not called using the scientific method.

Edited by stevestory on Dec. 23 2012,21:45

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,22:21   

Here's the praise for Gary, in its entirety:

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11/23/2011 1:56:04 AM: Dave Carter

Thanks Gary, this is excellent :D
(If this comment was disrespectful, please report it.)










11/23/2011 10:06:01 AM: Paul Bahlawan

WOW!! That is awsomeness.
(If this comment was disrespectful, please report it.)










11/24/2011 6:33:28 AM: aarslan1

Congratulations Gary, excellent work. Will dive into it, when i'll get time. 5 Globes.
(If this comment was disrespectful, please report it.)







No real detail nor insights. Were they just being nice? maybe they liked the oogely-boogley eyes? Are any biologists?

GARYFAIL.

Edited by Richardthughes on Dec. 23 2012,22:22

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,01:46   

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You'll end up the one with reason to be paranoid, while I just tell you I warned you about not taking this theory seriously.

AFAIK, some people are paranoid for no apparent reason; they just are...

I know that I am paranoid but why is everybody chasing me?

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Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,08:28   

Gary, here's another badge for your collection.  Use it proudly!



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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,09:42   

This theory only needs to explain what is in the earlier shown Introduction, the multilevel causation which begins in the behavior of matter. That is the part which allows science to answer bigger-questions pertaining to our origins where we even find a Chromosomal Adam and Eve to help stay in spirit with the hopes from religion, that it in time becomes scientific theory like right out of Genesis which completely shuts down all critics.

The latest model at Planet Source Code shows what the Theory of Intelligent Design looks like as a programming challenge to all, in a tougher forum than it looks. Something not working as advertised for everyone can get flamed into oblivion. The computer model had to genuinely prove it’s not all hype. But as you saw the programming community more or less put their faith in me to make sure to kick your butts real good, in your own scientific arena(s). I’m here following through for them. And in that process following through for those who likewise put faith in the theory and I, because of how it promised to help explain big-questions, in such a very faith-friendly way.

What makes this theory something that you have to respect is all of the different highly creative people who can find something “useful” in it. There are those driven to program the essence of intelligent life, who needed to know about the David Heiserman based intelligence algorithm and all else that makes it easy.

There are the musically talented who only want to take the big-questions to the limit. For going all the way to the afterlife questions Goth music culture gave us Black Veil Brides - In The End which earned an A+ in science, from me. It’s a description of something that logically flows from the Everything Is Energy video to conceptualize forever travel through time and space. There is a laws of conservation of energy compliant cyclic 3D wave universe possible where the Big Bang is at 0 volts on an oscilloscope, while measuring the oscillating waveform made by all of the energy in the entire universe behind it into anti-matter half of cycle. Waves from such an oscillator are expected to be incredibly identical but since there is a little antimatter in this universe it’s at the same time not a perfectly clean wave, exact repeat. So with all said, their message works with what there is for scientific theory. Better that, than not.

This year for Christmas the Goth music culture found a niche that can ultimately have a constructive and respectable influence on future religious culture. I do not exactly know what Kathy Martin will think of this but it’s still keeping the search for our creator going. And in the earlier days of religion were the great Gothic Cathedrals.


Cathedral of Saint Mary of the See

Once inspired, there is no telling where the Goth culture might next go, that impresses Kathy Martin too. As I see it she is the one being carried by a prophet who in real life imitating art is of course me. She is essentially being glorified by the metaphors.

The video includes marvelous Christian church scenes more indicative of Christian Rock bands, yet the Black Veiled Brides were able to get away with it. What she needs to see for the song and video to represent her is very much there. And she knows I’m from Massachusetts where before Halloween the Salem witches and legacies are a tourist industry.

When my oldest daughter was in school a Wicca way of thinking was very popular. Someone we know from having been at the house and such wrote a positive article for the school newspaper. It did not lead to a new religion either. In the Black Veiled Brides way of expressing things I have to see the pentagrams showing all that in time through theory led back to where Kathy is at that makes her so ID friendly, she got into epic trouble with “scientific community” for calling for a school board public hearing to see what the Discovery Institute had for theory.

All together in the collective intelligence of human culture there is religion which has traditions to keep going the most sacred knowledge of all, answers to the big-questions pertaining to our origins, at least attempt an answer. This includes scripture which remains the same Bible or Quran through time, not something updated. And there is science theory that is regularly updated.

How we could somehow be in the image of our Creator is one of the big-questions this theory provides a useful scientific answer. It’s not arguing against Genesis, it’s being in step with it. It’s what religious culture needs to stay going through time, without science ever stopping it.

During this time of the year is the tradition of Christmas. In addition to the many other things it also represents, there is the common message to through the children keep that and our most sacred knowledge going through time. This year the Goth music culture just in time for Christmas left what they can see as a gift to culture, that I had to in more detail explain for it to be a welcomed to the chorus of the Christmas Canon which repeats:

Quote
This night
We pray
Our lives
Will show
This dream
He had
Each child
Still knows


Where the children sing, Christmas has in it what keeps that and religion going through the generations:  

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon (Video)

And at the level of very rocking rock and roll, for a Christmas carol, is this version:

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon Rock

Christmas is religious culture celebrating keeping our most sacred knowledge going. The holiday has a scientific side for including useful theory found along the way for future generations to better understand the religion part that gets handed down as well. I can here see Christmas as a constructive part of human collective intelligence that I don’t mind helping to brighten. So Merry Christmas, to you and all, from another Christmas to remember.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,10:11   

Quote (Quack @ Dec. 24 2012,01:46)
 
Quote
You'll end up the one with reason to be paranoid, while I just tell you I warned you about not taking this theory seriously.

AFAIK, some people are paranoid for no apparent reason; they just are...

I know that I am paranoid but why is everybody chasing me?

"Even a paranoid can have enemies." - Henry A. Kissinger

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,11:30   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 24 2012,09:42)
What makes this theory something that you have to respect is all of the different highly creative people who can find something “useful” in it.



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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,12:46   

Gary, you only got one 5 planet rating didn't you?  For a 2.5 average rating from 5 reviews there could be a maximum of 13 total planets (giving you the rounding benefit).  Given the 3 positive reviews (one explicitly giving you 5 planets), and taking the 2 science denier crap reviews to both be 1 planet....

That means your other 2 positive reviews averaged 3 planets doesn't it? Even your Plantfood Decepticode rating isn't very good, is it?

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And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,14:18   

What would Christmas Eve be without a little Grinchy, Grumpy Cheer? To get your eves off to a great start,  I thought it appropriate that a review of the preceding Christmas Eve GG rant was in order. Enjoy!

http://tfninsider.org/2011....-jensen

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,15:09   

Blimey, he's gone round the bend tonight.

Who's Kathy Martin? His sponsor?

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,15:18   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 24 2012,10:42)
This theory only needs to explain what is in the earlier shown Introduction, the multilevel causation which begins in the behavior of matter. That is the part which allows science to answer bigger-questions pertaining to our origins where we even find a Chromosomal Adam and Eve to help stay in spirit with the hopes from religion, that it in time becomes scientific theory like right out of Genesis which completely shuts down all critics.

The latest model at Planet Source Code shows what the Theory of Intelligent Design looks like as a programming challenge to all, in a tougher forum than it looks. Something not working as advertised for everyone can get flamed into oblivion. The computer model had to genuinely prove it’s not all hype. But as you saw the programming community more or less put their faith in me to make sure to kick your butts real good, in your own scientific arena(s). I’m here following through for them. And in that process following through for those who likewise put faith in the theory and I, because of how it promised to help explain big-questions, in such a very faith-friendly way.

What makes this theory something that you have to respect is all of the different highly creative people who can find something “useful” in it. There are those driven to program the essence of intelligent life, who needed to know about the David Heiserman based intelligence algorithm and all else that makes it easy.

There are the musically talented who only want to take the big-questions to the limit. For going all the way to the afterlife questions Goth music culture gave us Black Veil Brides - In The End which earned an A+ in science, from me. It’s a description of something that logically flows from the Everything Is Energy video to conceptualize forever travel through time and space. There is a laws of conservation of energy compliant cyclic 3D wave universe possible where the Big Bang is at 0 volts on an oscilloscope, while measuring the oscillating waveform made by all of the energy in the entire universe behind it into anti-matter half of cycle. Waves from such an oscillator are expected to be incredibly identical but since there is a little antimatter in this universe it’s at the same time not a perfectly clean wave, exact repeat. So with all said, their message works with what there is for scientific theory. Better that, than not.

This year for Christmas the Goth music culture found a niche that can ultimately have a constructive and respectable influence on future religious culture. I do not exactly know what Kathy Martin will think of this but it’s still keeping the search for our creator going. And in the earlier days of religion were the great Gothic Cathedrals.


Cathedral of Saint Mary of the See

Once inspired, there is no telling where the Goth culture might next go, that impresses Kathy Martin too. As I see it she is the one being carried by a prophet who in real life imitating art is of course me. She is essentially being glorified by the metaphors.

The video includes marvelous Christian church scenes more indicative of Christian Rock bands, yet the Black Veiled Brides were able to get away with it. What she needs to see for the song and video to represent her is very much there. And she knows I’m from Massachusetts where before Halloween the Salem witches and legacies are a tourist industry.

When my oldest daughter was in school a Wicca way of thinking was very popular. Someone we know from having been at the house and such wrote a positive article for the school newspaper. It did not lead to a new religion either. In the Black Veiled Brides way of expressing things I have to see the pentagrams showing all that in time through theory led back to where Kathy is at that makes her so ID friendly, she got into epic trouble with “scientific community” for calling for a school board public hearing to see what the Discovery Institute had for theory.

All together in the collective intelligence of human culture there is religion which has traditions to keep going the most sacred knowledge of all, answers to the big-questions pertaining to our origins, at least attempt an answer. This includes scripture which remains the same Bible or Quran through time, not something updated. And there is science theory that is regularly updated.

How we could somehow be in the image of our Creator is one of the big-questions this theory provides a useful scientific answer. It’s not arguing against Genesis, it’s being in step with it. It’s what religious culture needs to stay going through time, without science ever stopping it.

During this time of the year is the tradition of Christmas. In addition to the many other things it also represents, there is the common message to through the children keep that and our most sacred knowledge going through time. This year the Goth music culture just in time for Christmas left what they can see as a gift to culture, that I had to in more detail explain for it to be a welcomed to the chorus of the Christmas Canon which repeats:

Quote
This night
We pray
Our lives
Will show
This dream
He had
Each child
Still knows


Where the children sing, Christmas has in it what keeps that and religion going through the generations:  

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon (Video)

And at the level of very rocking rock and roll, for a Christmas carol, is this version:

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon Rock

Christmas is religious culture celebrating keeping our most sacred knowledge going. The holiday has a scientific side for including useful theory found along the way for future generations to better understand the religion part that gets handed down as well. I can here see Christmas as a constructive part of human collective intelligence that I don’t mind helping to brighten. So Merry Christmas, to you and all, from another Christmas to remember.

I suspect that with this post, we have reached Peak Gary.

Quote
But as you saw the programming community more or less put their faith in me to make sure to kick your butts real good, in your own scientific arena(s). I’m here following through for them.


No, as we saw, this was the lengthiest response you got

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1/8/2012 5:43:00 AM: bobghengiskhan
I know I am new to this site but really, I don't get it. Whilst I have no major issues with the code itself, the 30 page "documentation" (besides for some reason being supplied twice) seems to contain pages and pages of material that bear no obvious relationship to the program itself. And worse, makes it appear as if the publication of the code itself has more to do with some kind of pro Intelligent Design agenda (though not in any form that the Discovery Institute or its advocates would recognise, I am sure) than anything else.
For this reason, I feel that I must downgrade something that otherwise might be at least average.


Quote


1/13/2012 2:30:56 PM: bobghengiskhan

Anyway, I have said my piece and seen how you respond to criticism with insult, rather than a reasoned and rational rebuttal. Clearly your work was not worthy of my time and I stand by my score. Good day to you.


You are delusional, and I doubt you'll ever understand that.

   
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,16:03   

So Kathy Martin is this Kathy Martin....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....xW6HLuc

And from the Curmudgeon....

http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008.......science

Shocked, I know.

It seems that once upon a time Gary tried hawking his 'theory' to Kathy Martin who then penned him some words of encouragement.



Of course this is the same Gary who believes Planet Source Code awards bestow validity to his 'theory' so you can imagine how the blessing of Kathy Martin has affected him.

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,17:58   

Maybe we need a new thread dedicated to GaryBillyBob's leaving.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,23:11   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 24 2012,07:42)
This theory only needs to explain what is in the earlier shown Introduction, the multilevel causation which begins in the behavior of matter. That is the part which allows science to answer bigger-questions pertaining to our origins where we even find a Chromosomal Adam and Eve to help stay in spirit with the hopes from religion, that it in time becomes scientific theory like right out of Genesis which completely shuts down all critics.

The latest model at Planet Source Code shows what the Theory of Intelligent Design looks like as a programming challenge to all, in a tougher forum than it looks. Something not working as advertised for everyone can get flamed into oblivion. The computer model had to genuinely prove it’s not all hype. But as you saw the programming community more or less put their faith in me to make sure to kick your butts real good, in your own scientific arena(s). I’m here following through for them. And in that process following through for those who likewise put faith in the theory and I, because of how it promised to help explain big-questions, in such a very faith-friendly way.

What makes this theory something that you have to respect is all of the different highly creative people who can find something “useful” in it. There are those driven to program the essence of intelligent life, who needed to know about the David Heiserman based intelligence algorithm and all else that makes it easy.

There are the musically talented who only want to take the big-questions to the limit. For going all the way to the afterlife questions Goth music culture gave us Black Veil Brides - In The End which earned an A+ in science, from me. It’s a description of something that logically flows from the Everything Is Energy video to conceptualize forever travel through time and space. There is a laws of conservation of energy compliant cyclic 3D wave universe possible where the Big Bang is at 0 volts on an oscilloscope, while measuring the oscillating waveform made by all of the energy in the entire universe behind it into anti-matter half of cycle. Waves from such an oscillator are expected to be incredibly identical but since there is a little antimatter in this universe it’s at the same time not a perfectly clean wave, exact repeat. So with all said, their message works with what there is for scientific theory. Better that, than not.

This year for Christmas the Goth music culture found a niche that can ultimately have a constructive and respectable influence on future religious culture. I do not exactly know what Kathy Martin will think of this but it’s still keeping the search for our creator going. And in the earlier days of religion were the great Gothic Cathedrals.


Cathedral of Saint Mary of the See

Once inspired, there is no telling where the Goth culture might next go, that impresses Kathy Martin too. As I see it she is the one being carried by a prophet who in real life imitating art is of course me. She is essentially being glorified by the metaphors.

The video includes marvelous Christian church scenes more indicative of Christian Rock bands, yet the Black Veiled Brides were able to get away with it. What she needs to see for the song and video to represent her is very much there. And she knows I’m from Massachusetts where before Halloween the Salem witches and legacies are a tourist industry.

When my oldest daughter was in school a Wicca way of thinking was very popular. Someone we know from having been at the house and such wrote a positive article for the school newspaper. It did not lead to a new religion either. In the Black Veiled Brides way of expressing things I have to see the pentagrams showing all that in time through theory led back to where Kathy is at that makes her so ID friendly, she got into epic trouble with “scientific community” for calling for a school board public hearing to see what the Discovery Institute had for theory.

All together in the collective intelligence of human culture there is religion which has traditions to keep going the most sacred knowledge of all, answers to the big-questions pertaining to our origins, at least attempt an answer. This includes scripture which remains the same Bible or Quran through time, not something updated. And there is science theory that is regularly updated.

How we could somehow be in the image of our Creator is one of the big-questions this theory provides a useful scientific answer. It’s not arguing against Genesis, it’s being in step with it. It’s what religious culture needs to stay going through time, without science ever stopping it.

During this time of the year is the tradition of Christmas. In addition to the many other things it also represents, there is the common message to through the children keep that and our most sacred knowledge going through time. This year the Goth music culture just in time for Christmas left what they can see as a gift to culture, that I had to in more detail explain for it to be a welcomed to the chorus of the Christmas Canon which repeats:

 
Quote
This night
We pray
Our lives
Will show
This dream
He had
Each child
Still knows


Where the children sing, Christmas has in it what keeps that and religion going through the generations:  

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon (Video)

And at the level of very rocking rock and roll, for a Christmas carol, is this version:

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon Rock

Christmas is religious culture celebrating keeping our most sacred knowledge going. The holiday has a scientific side for including useful theory found along the way for future generations to better understand the religion part that gets handed down as well. I can here see Christmas as a constructive part of human collective intelligence that I don’t mind helping to brighten. So Merry Christmas, to you and all, from another Christmas to remember.



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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,23:11   

Sorry about the double post.

Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 24 2012,22:32

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,00:16   

Quote (Quack @ Dec. 23 2012,03:27)
I trust both creationism and your 'theory' whatever it is - will be  gone and buried before 'we' celebrate the next millenium.

I am not that optimistic regarding creationism but for Gary's "theory" we will just have to wait for a biological solution that will definitely come sooner.

Edited by sparc on Dec. 25 2012,00:22

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,00:32   

But of course I wish Gary a long life. At the end of the day, what harm besides making it obvious to the whole world that he is dumb and wating an immeasurable amount of the internet's bandwidth does he cause?

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,00:58   

Quote (Woodbine @ Dec. 24 2012,16:03)
So Kathy Martin is this Kathy Martin....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....xW6HLuc

And from the Curmudgeon....

http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008.......science

Shocked, I know.

It seems that once upon a time Gary tried hawking his 'theory' to Kathy Martin who then penned him some words of encouragement.



Of course this is the same Gary who believes Planet Source Code awards bestow validity to his 'theory' so you can imagine how the blessing of Kathy Martin has affected him.

Kathy very well represents ones who found much missing from the Darwinian answers they were getting, resisted them. The only thing I ever cared about is finding better answers, for all of us. So I don’t mind Kathy being Kathy. What you found is more telling the story of her life, where here is asked a dumb question for a video which leads to her next giving your side exactly what they wanted.

The issue was relatively complex and had to do with a theory that made enough sense to be worth having a fair public hearing for. At the moment though the only thing that matters is where all are at right now, because of it.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,01:18   

Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 24 2012,23:11)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 24 2012,07:42)
This theory only needs to explain what is in the earlier shown Introduction, the multilevel causation which begins in the behavior of matter. That is the part which allows science to answer bigger-questions pertaining to our origins where we even find a Chromosomal Adam and Eve to help stay in spirit with the hopes from religion, that it in time becomes scientific theory like right out of Genesis which completely shuts down all critics.

The latest model at Planet Source Code shows what the Theory of Intelligent Design looks like as a programming challenge to all, in a tougher forum than it looks. Something not working as advertised for everyone can get flamed into oblivion. The computer model had to genuinely prove it’s not all hype. But as you saw the programming community more or less put their faith in me to make sure to kick your butts real good, in your own scientific arena(s). I’m here following through for them. And in that process following through for those who likewise put faith in the theory and I, because of how it promised to help explain big-questions, in such a very faith-friendly way.

What makes this theory something that you have to respect is all of the different highly creative people who can find something “useful” in it. There are those driven to program the essence of intelligent life, who needed to know about the David Heiserman based intelligence algorithm and all else that makes it easy.

There are the musically talented who only want to take the big-questions to the limit. For going all the way to the afterlife questions Goth music culture gave us Black Veil Brides - In The End which earned an A+ in science, from me. It’s a description of something that logically flows from the Everything Is Energy video to conceptualize forever travel through time and space. There is a laws of conservation of energy compliant cyclic 3D wave universe possible where the Big Bang is at 0 volts on an oscilloscope, while measuring the oscillating waveform made by all of the energy in the entire universe behind it into anti-matter half of cycle. Waves from such an oscillator are expected to be incredibly identical but since there is a little antimatter in this universe it’s at the same time not a perfectly clean wave, exact repeat. So with all said, their message works with what there is for scientific theory. Better that, than not.

This year for Christmas the Goth music culture found a niche that can ultimately have a constructive and respectable influence on future religious culture. I do not exactly know what Kathy Martin will think of this but it’s still keeping the search for our creator going. And in the earlier days of religion were the great Gothic Cathedrals.


Cathedral of Saint Mary of the See

Once inspired, there is no telling where the Goth culture might next go, that impresses Kathy Martin too. As I see it she is the one being carried by a prophet who in real life imitating art is of course me. She is essentially being glorified by the metaphors.

The video includes marvelous Christian church scenes more indicative of Christian Rock bands, yet the Black Veiled Brides were able to get away with it. What she needs to see for the song and video to represent her is very much there. And she knows I’m from Massachusetts where before Halloween the Salem witches and legacies are a tourist industry.

When my oldest daughter was in school a Wicca way of thinking was very popular. Someone we know from having been at the house and such wrote a positive article for the school newspaper. It did not lead to a new religion either. In the Black Veiled Brides way of expressing things I have to see the pentagrams showing all that in time through theory led back to where Kathy is at that makes her so ID friendly, she got into epic trouble with “scientific community” for calling for a school board public hearing to see what the Discovery Institute had for theory.

All together in the collective intelligence of human culture there is religion which has traditions to keep going the most sacred knowledge of all, answers to the big-questions pertaining to our origins, at least attempt an answer. This includes scripture which remains the same Bible or Quran through time, not something updated. And there is science theory that is regularly updated.

How we could somehow be in the image of our Creator is one of the big-questions this theory provides a useful scientific answer. It’s not arguing against Genesis, it’s being in step with it. It’s what religious culture needs to stay going through time, without science ever stopping it.

During this time of the year is the tradition of Christmas. In addition to the many other things it also represents, there is the common message to through the children keep that and our most sacred knowledge going through time. This year the Goth music culture just in time for Christmas left what they can see as a gift to culture, that I had to in more detail explain for it to be a welcomed to the chorus of the Christmas Canon which repeats:

   
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This night
We pray
Our lives
Will show
This dream
He had
Each child
Still knows


Where the children sing, Christmas has in it what keeps that and religion going through the generations:  

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon (Video)

And at the level of very rocking rock and roll, for a Christmas carol, is this version:

Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Canon Rock

Christmas is religious culture celebrating keeping our most sacred knowledge going. The holiday has a scientific side for including useful theory found along the way for future generations to better understand the religion part that gets handed down as well. I can here see Christmas as a constructive part of human collective intelligence that I don’t mind helping to brighten. So Merry Christmas, to you and all, from another Christmas to remember.


LOL!

Welcome to planet Earth:

7 BEST CHRISTMAS LIGHT SHOWS EVER!! WOW!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,03:00   

I'm starting to think Gary is just one of Dennis' slightly smarter (though just as incomprehensible) alternate identities.



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a theory that made enough sense to be worth having a fair public hearing for.


1. Can you name any person for whom your theory has made any sense at all?

We'd love a second opinion, are we all wrong, is there maybe a silent soul out there having seen what we have not been able to? Be fair, introduce your proselytes to us!

2. What public do you find appropriate for a fair public hearing?

Edited by Quack on Dec. 25 2012,05:33

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,06:10   

Interesting quote from 2009....
 
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P.S. The last link (to the theory) is in preparation for publishing and is already being quietly taught in at least several hundred classrooms and growing.  I can consider that my revenge on those who wasted all that time and money telling people to stay the hell out of science, instead of welcoming and teaching them like I do.


http://www.physforum.com/index.p....=431942

Your theory is not (and has never been) taught in "at least several hundred classrooms".

Gary, you are living in a fantasy world. Let's hope 2013 will be the year you snap out of it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2012,22:52   

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You'll end up the one with reason to be paranoid, while I just tell you I warned you about not taking this theory seriously.

AFAIK, some people are paranoid for no apparent reason; they just are...

I know that I am paranoid but why is everybody chasing me?

For some reason I can just picture you in the street cursing a Christmas light show for mocking you!

Cadger Dubstep Christmas Lights House 2012 - Full Show

The whole point is to LIGHTEN UP and not mind creationists being welcome too.

Just imagine yourself living across the street from this Christmas lighting overachiever, could drive some here nuts with just the brightness alone:

Christmas Light Show 2011 in Fountain Valley, CA by Devers Dream Weavers

For what it's worth, all who saw the Theory of Intelligent Design being worth at least trying to figure out, are finding out what happens where we do. End up with a theory that's surprisingly in-step with Genesis without needing to deny "common ancestry" it's here a part of molecular and cellular intelligence, learning. Certainly not the Darwinian paradigm predictions that we are accidents from non-intelligence with no Adam and Eve moment in our speciation. There is still change over time but we have a large chromosome fusion event in our molecular development that chimps and other great apes sure don't have. The theory adds missing detail others would not even notice missing from their answers to the bigger-questions.  

Ones who were worried about culture going to hell can see what happens where the wedge strategy works great, modern Gothic art culture is like right-there to help work on the deep dark questions. Just have to get used to the black fingernail polish and such. I had to explain that sort of thing easily happening. But here the metaphors I see include Kathy who already has the story of her life well told on the Internet, with religious way of seeing things that stirred things up in a way to make this Theory of Intelligent Design happen is what becomes legend, in culture.

This theory is not the sort of thing where there is a class on ID then in a few weeks it's all covered. This goes into basic physics and so much more it most often ends up spread out among teachers who each find something that works along with what they already teach. The theory wraps up a quality K-12 science education, needed to understand it.

It's so much theory that you it's there by a grade level having a science teacher that demonstrates protein skimming in origin of life aquarium experiment they design then perform, then in another grade they have intro to electronics quickly explaining how any RAM chip works, so they can understand the schematic in the theory.

There might be mention of the theory in a class but it will by then not be an issue. Thinking that it's a marched into special class sort of thing does not reflect reality. Due to covering all the sciences that exist and connecting to big-questions it's actually more like the theory comes from everywhere.

With all that said, I must mention I got amplified speakers with a subwoofer for Christmas! I was using an old junk with no amp. Sounded awful. PC now sounds awesome. I'm playing with my new toy.
Metallica - No Leaf Clover is so much more relaxing (to me anyway) with the nice deep bass.

And this year for Christmas (for others) I hoped to have (what you can say is) the leadership of the anti-ID movement well introduced to this theory so that K-12 public school teachers don't have to worry about getting in trouble for including with usual curriculum. It's hard for me to say how well I did delivering something hopeful to be thankful for this Christmas, but one thing for sure bringing the (come as you are) celebration here was at least different. And it's the thought that counts, right? So I hope all (regardless of religion) the best of what's left Christmas Day, as the next New Year to remember begins...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2012,06:05   

What, you still here?

Pray you find a more fertile hunting ground for 2013!

(And a new and entertaining chewtoy for AtBC).

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2012,13:49   

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And this year for Christmas (for others) I hoped to have (what you can say is) the leadership of the anti-ID movement well introduced to this theory

Go to uncommon descent then.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2012,15:39   

Some metaphor; driving a nut nuts...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2012,17:09   

It's beginning to blither.

I spent more than 20 years doing mainframe programming for USAF, and I have no idea what the blitherer is attempting to say.

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