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k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 28 2007,11:45    This is going back aways now but on PT just before the Dover judgment Sal rode in and tried to clear up Demski's definitions for CSI etc etc. It was like watching a guy trying to stand on ball bearings in slippery boots on wet rocks. He forgot that some people actually have memories that last for more than 3 seconds. When asked to define CSI in Standard English without using the words complex, specified or information he lost the plot and blew a gasket. The private definition that Dembski uses for his pseudo math is typical crackpot behavior, like that guy trying to sue PZ. What?s his name again? BWHAHhahahahahahahahahahhehehehehehehehe *snigger* How much shit can these guys eat? -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 28 2007,11:46    Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 27 2007,15:24) Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 27 2007,15:16) Quote (blipey @ Aug. 27 2007,15:08) Joe is the Maytag Man. ?The Frigidaire Biologist. ?The Astrophysicist of the Deep Freeze. ?The Kitchen Muslim.... Really? ? He's a repairman? ?Fantastic. Well, sure, in a manner. He works for General Electric, which does makes consumer appliances.  They also make jet engines, railroad locomotives, medical imaging equipment, and desalination plants to name a few. Has Joe actually stated what he does service? Not sure if he has made that explicit.  He once told me, however, that he worked on stuff that required an extra-special, top secret clearance and that was the reason he couldn't discuss any of his job qualifications. He never did answer my inquiry into whether or not the NSA was happy that he constantly jawed about his security clearances, place of work, and home address all in the same 3 sentences. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 28 2007,11:53    Quote He never did answer my inquiry into whether or not the NSA was happy that he constantly jawed about his security clearances, place of work, and home address all in the same 3 sentences. Shhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! He's hoping Dt/Di will inform homeland secuirty that someone told someone else that he is a security risk. (added just in case joe reads this ....don't feel important? Call in the black helicopters) -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2007,12:25    This Joeism was posted on Uncommon Descent, so I wasn't sure whether to post it here or on the Official Uncommonly Dense Discussion Thread. Anyway, the issue is Joe's progressive use of quotes. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

slpage Posts: 349 Joined: June 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2007,13:00    Quote (blipey @ Aug. 28 2007,11:46) Not sure if he has made that explicit. ?He once told me, however, that he worked on stuff that required an extra-special, top secret clearance and that was the reason he couldn't discuss any of his job qualifications. He never did answer my inquiry into whether or not the NSA was happy that he constantly jawed about his security clearances, place of work, and home address all in the same 3 sentences. He has also claimed that he had to take an IQ test for his job, and boasted on the KCFS forum that he did it very quickly, and that the title of his job has the term 'scientist' in it.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2007,13:02    Quote (slpage @ Aug. 31 2007,13:00) Quote (blipey @ Aug. 28 2007,11:46) Not sure if he has made that explicit. ?He once told me, however, that he worked on stuff that required an extra-special, top secret clearance and that was the reason he couldn't discuss any of his job qualifications. He never did answer my inquiry into whether or not the NSA was happy that he constantly jawed about his security clearances, place of work, and home address all in the same 3 sentences. He has also claimed that he had to take an IQ test for his job, and boasted on the KCFS forum that he did it very quickly, and that the title of his job has the term 'scientist' in it. Hey, if atheism is a religion, then "not scientist" is a job! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2007,18:02    Joe's back on my blog.  He refuses to admit he's wrong.  Surprise! That is: my joke blog pro-science (linked above), not paralepsis. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

C.J.O'Brien Posts: 395 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2007,01:58    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 04 2007,18:02) Joe's back on my blog. ?He refuses to admit he's wrong. ?Surprise! That is: my joke blog pro-science (linked above), not paralepsis. For a shot of stupid, I looked at this. Joe G pours with a heavy hand. -------------- The is the beauty of being me- anything that any man does I can understand. --Joe G

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,09:19    Has anybody experienced anything threatening from Joe G?  He recently responded to a comment on his blog by identifying me by name and by my institution.  I responded on my blog and his, but I'd like to know of previous instances like this. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,09:48    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,09:19) Has anybody experienced anything threatening from Joe G? ?He recently responded to a comment on his blog by identifying me by name and by my institution. ?I responded on my blog and his, but I'd like to know of previous instances like this. Interesting... I'm thinking that Ed Brayton or one of his lawyerly minions might have some good feedback about this. Looks to me though, as if Joe G is  a Creo On The Edge - of course most of them are.   :) Keep us appraised, and don't let Sal cover your back! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,10:03    Watching Davescot, Dembski, Salvador, FtK, etc, over the years, I have to say that personality issues are not foreign to them.

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,10:04    Oh yeah.  That's all JoeG has really, are threats.  I find it funny that he equates threats with evidence, but I really think he's too lazy to execute any of them. While never quite reaching the DaveScot threat level, JoeG once told me he could kill me if I showed up at his door.  This was after he invited me to show up at his door. Since he's published it before in his invites to come and challenge him: Joe Gallien; Manchester, NH I'll leave it to him to tell you his address; though he's also published this before. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,10:08    Quote (blipey @ Sep. 06 2007,11:04) JoeG once told me he could kill me if I showed up at his door.  This was after he invited me to show up at his door. Showing that Joe G is on exactly Homer Simpson's level. Quote    Wiggum: And once a man is in your home, anything you do to him is nice and legal.    Homer: Is that so? Oh, Flanders! Won't you join me in my kitchen?    Wiggum: Uh, it doesn't work if you invite him.

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:04    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,07:19) Has anybody experienced anything threatening from Joe G?  He recently responded to a comment on his blog by identifying me by name and by my institution.  I responded on my blog and his, but I'd like to know of previous instances like this. PM Occam's Aftershave. I know he's got some stories! -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:23    In Which I cry "Uncle" to Joe G: Quote Joe G has taken to physically threatening me if I do not stipulate that what he says he meant now is what he meant then. He also knows who I am, and where I work, and he lives not too far from me. He has said, "And I am being very generous by saying that on this blog as opposed to driving a few miles to say it to your face," and also "I will do whatever it takes to stop it." So, agreed Joe G. You win. What you say you meant now is what you meant then. Someone identified your name and town on this blog, and like a decent person, I deleted it. See how we can resolve arguments amicably? I'm so glad you are able to convince people by way of reasoned argument. Also, I'm fat. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Rob Posts: 154 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:30    Joe G and JAD are in a class of their own when it comes to instability.  There's gotta be something in the New England water.  Do you drink Evian, Hermagoras? -------------- -- Rob, the fartist formerly known as 2ndclass

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:35    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,11:23) In Which I cry "Uncle" to Joe G: ? Quote Joe G has taken to physically threatening me if I do not stipulate that what he says he meant now is what he meant then. He also knows who I am, and where I work, and he lives not too far from me. He has said, "And I am being very generous by saying that on this blog as opposed to driving a few miles to say it to your face," and also "I will do whatever it takes to stop it." So, agreed Joe G. You win. What you say you meant now is what you meant then. Someone identified your name and town on this blog, and like a decent person, I deleted it. See how we can resolve arguments amicably? I'm so glad you are able to convince people by way of reasoned argument. Also, I'm fat. Joe's from New Hampshire, right? Better not mess with Joe. He's got big muscles from pushing around all those washing machines and ovens. Actually, I suspect our Joe is firmly in the David Springer category of "ID Pseudo-Tough Guy". In other words, if you visited him at his home, he'd turn off all the lights and pretend not to be home. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:37    Quote (Rob @ Sep. 06 2007,11:30) Joe G and JAD are in a class of their own when it comes to instability.  There's gotta be something in the New England water.  Do you drink Evian, Hermagoras? If Joe G is in New Hampshire, we drink different water.  Mine comes from the mighty Quabbin, and it's fine indeed. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:41    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,11:37) Quote (Rob @ Sep. 06 2007,11:30) Joe G and JAD are in a class of their own when it comes to instability. ?There's gotta be something in the New England water. ?Do you drink Evian, Hermagoras? If Joe G is in New Hampshire, we drink different water. ?Mine comes from the mighty Quabbin, and it's fine indeed. Then I must be south of your location. Did you ever see the Quabbin special on PBS?  Fantastic special with divers diving the bottom to show the old town, bridge and railroad and golf course remains. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:51    Quote (Steverino @ Sep. 06 2007,11:41) Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,11:37)   Quote (Rob @ Sep. 06 2007,11:30) Joe G and JAD are in a class of their own when it comes to instability. ?There's gotta be something in the New England water. ?Do you drink Evian, Hermagoras? If Joe G is in New Hampshire, we drink different water. ?Mine comes from the mighty Quabbin, and it's fine indeed. Then I must be south of your location. Did you ever see the Quabbin special on PBS?  Fantastic special with divers diving the bottom to show the old town, bridge and railroad and golf course remains. I'm in the Boston area.  As to documentaries, I only know Haunting the Quabbin, a great radio documentary produced by WBUR.  The former town residents still hold ceremonial town meetings every year.  Very poignant.   Also there's James Tate's poem "Quabbin Reservoir" (in Distance from Loved Ones, 1990), which includes the following passage: Quote There was a village at the bottom of the lake, and I could just make out the old post office, and, occasionally, when the light struck it just right, I glimpsed several mailmen swimming in or out of it, letters and packages escaping randomly, 1938, 1937, it didn't matter to them any longer.  Void. No such address. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,12:15    Not content with identifying me by name in comments, Joe G has put me in the subject line of two of his posts at Intelligent [sic] Reasoning.   Edited:  Links removed from this post. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,12:47    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,11:51) Quote (Steverino @ Sep. 06 2007,11:41)   Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,11:37) ? Quote (Rob @ Sep. 06 2007,11:30) Joe G and JAD are in a class of their own when it comes to instability. ?There's gotta be something in the New England water. ?Do you drink Evian, Hermagoras? If Joe G is in New Hampshire, we drink different water. ?Mine comes from the mighty Quabbin, and it's fine indeed. Then I must be south of your location. Did you ever see the Quabbin special on PBS? ?Fantastic special with divers diving the bottom to show the old town, bridge and railroad and golf course remains. I'm in the Boston area. ?As to documentaries, I only know Haunting the Quabbin, a great radio documentary produced by WBUR. ?The former town residents still hold ceremonial town meetings every year. ?Very poignant. ? Also there's James Tate's poem "Quabbin Reservoir" (in Distance from Loved Ones, 1990), which includes the following passage:   Quote There was a village at the bottom of the lake, and I could just make out the old post office, and, occasionally, when the light struck it just right, I glimpsed several mailmen swimming in or out of it, letters and packages escaping randomly, 1938, 1937, it didn't matter to them any longer. ?Void. No such address. It was called, "Under Quabbin" They run it from time to time. Well worth the watch. http://shop.wgbh.org/product/show/8577 I'm in NE Connecticut and work in Springfield. -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,12:47    Quote (Hermagoras @ Sep. 06 2007,12:15) Not content with identifying me by name in comments, Joe G has put me in the subject line of two of his posts at Intelligent [sic] Reasoning... ? Disturbing but fascinating. I would sugest that you remove the links. Joe G may not do anything but some other nutcase might. Is there no legal means to go after Joe G for doing this? Perhaps you should consult a legal expert. Make sure it isn't Larry Fafarman though. Joe G, what a childish wanker. His employer might also be interested in his behaviour. I hope you are keeping records of these antics.

Steverino Posts: 411 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,13:09    To parphrase from "Fletch" "...Joe G. molests collies." -------------- - Born right the first time. - Asking questions is NOT the same as providing answers. - It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys show up!

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,13:37    You mean the employer that doesn't mind that Joe tells everyone under the sun that he has super-crackerjack-and-mike-and-ike-ultra-deep-foil-hat-top-secret clearance? -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,14:00    Quote (blipey @ Sep. 06 2007,13:37) You mean the employer that doesn't mind that Joe tells everyone under the sun that he has super-crackerjack-and-mike-and-ike-ultra-deep-foil-hat-top-secret clearance? I don't understand what you are saying. Do you have evidence that Joe G's employer knows about his internet activities and doesn't care? Does Joe G actually work in a vetted environment on secret classified subjects? He may well do. But vetting is quite concerned with honesty. The questions could go on. I am not trying to interogate you though. I just do not understand what you are claiming and would like some clarification.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,14:36    Wait, isn't there some Joe Gallien legend from a couple years back where he got canned from his job for blogging during working hours or something like that? (You know, around the same time period when he was a Muslim for a couple hours.) -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Rob Posts: 154 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,14:48    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 06 2007,14:36) Wait, isn't there some Joe Gallien legend from a couple years back where he got canned from his job for blogging during working hours or something like that? (You know, around the same time period when he was a Muslim for a couple hours.) One and the same, although he denies that his termination was related to his internet threats. And here's one for the he's-even-dumber-than-we-thought file.  Joe actually thinks that the evolution of the vision system should be attributable to a certain gene or set of genes:   Quote No, genes don't hang around for hundreds of thousands of years directing mutation and selection. Can you verify that answer scientifically? Or is assertion the best you have? -------------- -- Rob, the fartist formerly known as 2ndclass

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,15:01    Quote (Rob @ Sep. 06 2007,14:48) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 06 2007,14:36) Wait, isn't there some Joe Gallien legend from a couple years back where he got canned from his job for blogging during working hours or something like that? (You know, around the same time period when he was a Muslim for a couple hours.) One and the same, although he denies that his termination was related to his internet threats. Oh, he was canned for actually threatening people online during working hours? Who and how? That story's even better! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Rob Posts: 154 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,15:06    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 06 2007,15:01) Oh, he was canned for actually threatening people online during working hours? Who and how? That story's even better! I think it was on the old NAiG site.  I don't know if it's archived any longer.  If someone remembers the old URL, maybe they can check the Wayback Machine. Here are a couple of posts at Telic Snots discussing it after the fact. -------------- -- Rob, the fartist formerly known as 2ndclass

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