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Posted: April 01 2008,09:37

For those who say Dr Dr Dr Dembski no longer does science I've got news for you

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

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Hey Dr Dembski, perhaps you'd be better off using your skills to put ID on a solid experimental footing.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: April 01 2008,09:51

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Dave, I can’t help but love you a bit sometimes.

has never flowed from my fingers whilst violating 2lot.

For a guy living in France, you aren't much of a romantic, are you?

I just never had a lover called Dave.

Trust me, they're overrated.
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Posted: April 01 2008,09:53

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2008,09:37)

For those who say Dr Dr Dr Dembski no longer does science I've got news for you

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Uh oh. Sounds like he's trying out topics for a third dissertation.

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Posted: April 01 2008,09:59

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Dave states the obvious:

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The difference is that I freely admit I’m a sociopath.

The hell you say:

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Actually it makes me feel like doing some pain experiments on PZ Myers. I don’t believe he feels pain. All the blood and screaming from my fists pounding his face to a pulp would be nothing more significant than an automobile engine leaking oil and bearings making noise from lack of lubrication. Of course I could be wrong. -ds

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What exactly is the appearance of a soul and what makes you think a chimp is lacking in that department? Not that I disagree I just want to know how you arrive at these conclusions. As far as I’m concerned there are a lot of humans that have no soul. None whatsoever. Zilch. As cruel and heartless as any animal. Worse, because the human ostensibly has the capacity to know right from wrong. What other animals besides humans get any joy out of causing pain to other creatures? As far as animals resembling people in the soul category elephants might have us beat which I blogged about here. -ds

February 21, 2006 @ 5:31 pm

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Posted: April 01 2008,10:01

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What other animals besides humans get any joy out of causing pain to other creatures?

As to that I'm sure I've seen some stuff about primates doing things out of spite...

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: April 01 2008,10:09

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2008,09:37)

For those who say Dr Dr Dr Dembski no longer does science I've got news for you

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Link
Hey Dr Dembski, perhaps you'd be better off using your skills to put ID on a solid experimental footing.

Shorter Dembski: I know you guys are actually at Baylor, but I can use my crazy math skillz to prove that you are wrong and Baylor has it in for the Christians.

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Posted: April 01 2008,10:30

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2008,09:37)

For those who say Dr Dr Dr Dembski no longer does science I've got news for you

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Link
Hey Dr Dembski, perhaps you'd be better off using your skills to put ID on a solid experimental footing.

Cluster analysis? Hahahahahahaha.

Sorry, that's just dumb. Logistic regression, discriminant analysis, CART (or whatever variant is appropriate) would be OK, but using a cluster analysis is just wrong.

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Posted: April 01 2008,10:37

Denyse

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The money shot? What’s really at stake here?

Heh heh heh heh.

She said money shot.

Heh heh heh.

Edited to add link.

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Posted: April 01 2008,11:01

He should use that'ar cluster analysis on the CSI in the names of current Baylor faculty vs those who have been Expelled from Baylor. Surely there is some design there and stuff.

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Posted: April 01 2008,11:54

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Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 01 2008,09:37)

For those who say Dr Dr Dr Dembski no longer does science I've got news for you

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Link
Hey Dr Dembski, perhaps you'd be better off using your skills to put ID on a solid experimental footing.

Cluster analysis? Hahahahahahaha.

Sorry, that's just dumb. Logistic regression, discriminant analysis, CART (or whatever variant is appropriate) would be OK, but using a cluster analysis is just wrong.

Beat me to it, Bob. I see this all the time in study proposals from non-statisticians - they suggest a technique they think they can do, rather than one that will work. I spend a lot of time telling people about logistic regression, and why it's better than ANOVA.

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Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Translated: The available data don't support my claim. So I'm going to make shit up.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:30

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What other animals besides humans get any joy out of causing pain to other creatures?

As to that I'm sure I've seen some stuff about primates doing things out of spite...

Maybe Sal can quotemine (would that be a sign-mine?) Koko the gorilla as saying she once beat a puppy.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:35

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He should use that'ar cluster analysis on the CSI in the names of current Baylor faculty vs those who have been Expelled from Baylor. Surely there is some design there and stuff.

There should be a statistically significant cluster of Expelled people just outside the Baylor cafeteria, trying to sneak in. Also one near Brazos barbeque, although that lunch is not free.

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2004/04/still-no-free-l.html

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:36

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Atom: Artifacts are [sufficient] evidence [for] the historical presence of an intelligent agent.

An artifact is *defined* as something created by humans. What you really mean is they found an object that resembles other objects that are known to be artifacts.

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DaveScot: What practical purpose is there in knowing, for example, whether birds descended from dinosaurs or not and how the modifications were acheived in that hypothetical line of descent?

What's the practical benefit of knowing why planets trace elliptical orbits? What's the practical benefits of the first experiments with electricity? À quoi peut bien servir l'enfant qui vient de naître?

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Atom: Tools (and machines) are sufficient evidence of the historical presence of intelligent agents.

A tool is *defined* as a hand-held device (contrivance). What you really mean was that an object was identified as "a spear point stuck between two bison ribs", identified because of its similarity to other spear points and its use in hunting.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:44

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DaveScot: What practical purpose is there in knowing, for example, whether birds descended from dinosaurs or not and how the modifications were acheived in that hypothetical line of descent?

What's the practical benefit of knowing why planets trace elliptical orbits? What's the practical benefits of the first experiments with electricity? À quoi peut bien servir l'enfant qui vient de naître?

I assume you're alluding to this:

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In the middle of the nineteenth century, the largely self-educated British physicist Michael Faraday was visited by his monarch, Queen Victoria. Among Faraday's many celebrated discoveries, some of obvious and immediate practical benefit, were more arcane findings in electricity and magnetism, then little more than laboratory curiosities. In the traditional dialogue between heads of state and heads of laboratories, the Queen asked Faraday of what use such studies were, to which he is said to have replied, "Madam, of what use is a baby?"

Funnily, it's also attributed to Maxwell and to Ben Franklin.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:46

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a cluster analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Here, let me fix that:

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In line with DLH’s request, I’d be happy to do a clusterfuck analysis (a multivariate statistical procedure) to see if those who were recommended for tenure and then denied it by the administration differ significantly along any relevant criteria (number of publications, quality of publications, research funds, etc.) from those who were granted tenure by the administration. Having been on the faculty at Baylor for a number of years, I have my own sources, and the picture that emerges is not nearly as optimistic as you make out.

Better.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:48

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DaveScot: What practical purpose is there in knowing, for example, whether birds descended from dinosaurs or not and how the modifications were acheived in that hypothetical line of descent?

What's the practical benefit of knowing why planets trace elliptical orbits? What's the practical benefits of the first experiments with electricity? À quoi peut bien servir l'enfant qui vient de naître?

This is what burns me the most. When you ask a question based solely on "what practical purpose" will the answer serve, logically you must already know the answer in order to be able to make that determination. It seems so to me anyway.

And if I were an IDiot the question if:

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birds descended from dinosaurs or not and how the modifications were acheived in that hypothetical line of descent

Might have an answer like

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Nope, we proved that they were not, they were intelligently designed and we proved it, and in the process found a message embedded in contemporary birds DNA that is a message from the designer addressed by name to us

Yet to not want to even look? If they were serious they'd join in the search for scientific answers and then once the data was in they could argue over what it meant and maybe even prove their point in the process.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: April 01 2008,12:50

JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:56

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JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

If you think biologists are bad, I should send you a few of the MDs I work with. And don't get me started about psychologists...

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Posted: April 01 2008,12:58

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JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

The real, erm, money shot is Denyse's rather hysterical response to Fork:

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I am a Toronto-based Canadian journalist, and a member of Canadian Association of Journalists, The Writers’ Union of Canada, and Canadian Science Writers’ Association, among many others. I have just qualified for full membership in CANSCAIP (the Canadian children’s writers’ association).

So who are YOU and how do you know what you claim?

HOW DARE YOU! I'M CANADIAN! I'M A JOURNALIST! I'M CANADIAN! BUY MY BOOK! DID I MENTION I'M CANADIAN?

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:01

Denyse (the Canadian journalist) also said:

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I have just qualified for full membership in CANSCAIP (the Canadian children’s writers’ association).

I assume she had to lie about her age.

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Sorry, this was so stereotypically Denyse I just HAD to add it:

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I make a living writing.

You don’t do that without some fans.

I can’t tell you about non-materialist science in general. But if you read The Spiritual Brain (Beauregard and O’Leary, 2007), you will get a useful primer on non-materialist neuroscience and its practical uses.

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:04

Speaking as a scientist who is not a statistician, I find it very good practise to listen to statisticians when they tell you a) what technique to use and b) whether such and such a result is statistically meaningful.

The tittering after the inevitable calamity if you don't listen is just unbearable.

Louis

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:08

Quote (Louis @ April 01 2008,11:04)

Speaking as a scientist who is not a statistician, I find it very good practise to listen to statisticians when they tell you a) what technique to use and b) whether such and such a result is statistically meaningful.

The tittering after the inevitable calamity if you don't listen is just unbearable.

Louis

It's bastards like you who take all the fun out of the job.

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:10

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2008,10:50)

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

I think the original post is UD's April Fool story. While there are a few clunky passages and the usual strange O'Learyisms:

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Well, knock me unconscious with the feather duster and then call 911 for an ambulance, okay?

it's not completely incoherent, and I understood what the point of the article was. It's bollocks, but in the sense of "bad argument", not the usual DO'L sense of "drunken word salad badly translated from the original Martian".

I wonder who wrote it?

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:15

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Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2008,12:50)

JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

The real, erm, money shot is Denyse's rather hysterical response to Fork:

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I am a Toronto-based Canadian journalist, and a member of Canadian Association of Journalists, The Writers’ Union of Canada, and Canadian Science Writers’ Association, among many others. I have just qualified for full membership in CANSCAIP (the Canadian children’s writers’ association).

So who are YOU and how do you know what you claim?

HOW DARE YOU! I'M CANADIAN! I'M A JOURNALIST! I'M CANADIAN! BUY MY BOOK! DID I MENTION I'M CANADIAN?

As far as I understand it from my relatively minimal exposure to American culture*, isn't it de rigeur for young gentleman, of, let us say, a less than fulsomely attractive nature, to claim that they "met a girl at camp" who they had sex with and they couldn't produce any evidence of said congress because the lady in question "is Canadian"?

I was merely think along these lines:

Horny, ugly, young boys make up Canadian sexual careers.

Stupid, deluded, ugly, old morphodykes make up Canadian writing careers.

Something to think about.

Louis

*Notice I said the words "American culture" without flinching or without disclaimer. I are being tolerant and inclusive damn you. I want recognition and prizes for my ~~magnanimity~~ ~~generosity~~ not taking the piss out of you cultureless, uncivilised, colonial yahoos.

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:19

Quote (JohnW @ April 01 2008,13:10)

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2008,10:50)

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

I think the original post is UD's April Fool story. While there are a few clunky passages and the usual strange O'Learyisms:

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Well, knock me unconscious with the feather duster and then call 911 for an ambulance, okay?

it's not completely incoherent, and I understood what the point of the article was. It's bollocks, but in the sense of "bad argument", not the usual DO'L sense of "drunken word salad badly translated from the original Martian".

Hey, copies still available for forty cents!

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:21

Quote (JohnW @ April 01 2008,19:08)

Quote (Louis @ April 01 2008,11:04)

Speaking as a scientist who is not a statistician, I find it very good practise to listen to statisticians when they tell you a) what technique to use and b) whether such and such a result is statistically meaningful.

The tittering after the inevitable calamity if you don't listen is just unbearable.

Louis

It's bastards like you who take all the fun out of the job.

True, but I make up for it come job review time by singing your praises and garnering you a nice fat bonus/pay rise in the annual and inevitable HR 360 degree butt-fuckaroo and back stab-o-rama.

So, granted, you don't get to say "I told you so" as often and point and giggle when some wag questions the statistics of a result in a project progess presentation and the non-statistician presenting falls on his face and basically shits himself in public, but you do get to go on holiday and buy your wife something nice.

All round I reckon that makes a better contribution to global happiness!

;-)

Louis

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:26

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Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2008,12:50)

JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

The real, erm, money shot is Denyse's rather hysterical response to Fork:

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I am a Toronto-based Canadian journalist, and a member of Canadian Association of Journalists, The Writers’ Union of Canada, and Canadian Science Writers’ Association, among many others. I have just qualified for full membership in CANSCAIP (the Canadian children’s writers’ association).

So who are YOU and how do you know what you claim?

HOW DARE YOU! I'M CANADIAN! I'M A JOURNALIST! I'M CANADIAN! BUY MY BOOK! DID I MENTION I'M CANADIAN?

As far as I understand it from my relatively minimal exposure to American culture*, isn't it de rigeur for young gentleman, of, let us say, a less than fulsomely attractive nature, to claim that they "met a girl at camp" who they had sex with and they couldn't produce any evidence of said congress because the lady in question "is Canadian"?

I was merely think along these lines:

Horny, ugly, young boys make up Canadian sexual careers.

Stupid, deluded, ugly, old morphodykes make up Canadian writing careers.

Something to think about.

Louis

*Notice I said the words "American culture" without flinching or without disclaimer. I are being tolerant and inclusive damn you. I want recognition and prizes for my ~~magnanimity~~ ~~generosity~~ not taking the piss out of you cultureless, uncivilised, colonial yahoos.

This is Louis 'exposing himself to American culture':

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:33

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Quote (Louis @ April 01 2008,13:15)

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 01 2008,18:58)

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 01 2008,12:50)

JohnW - I had wanted to say that I only sort that sort of statistical suggestion from biologists, but then I realised this might not be the best place for that observation.

The whole comments thread is excellent. Denyse gets slapped down by an anonymous Baylor insider ("The Fork"). She complains that the insider is anonymous, so Francis Beckwith backs The Fork up.

My guess is that The Fork is someone who has crossed Dembski in the past, and who has decided to hide from him in the canteen.

The real, erm, money shot is Denyse's rather hysterical response to Fork:

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I am a Toronto-based Canadian journalist, and a member of Canadian Association of Journalists, The Writers’ Union of Canada, and Canadian Science Writers’ Association, among many others. I have just qualified for full membership in CANSCAIP (the Canadian children’s writers’ association).

So who are YOU and how do you know what you claim?

HOW DARE YOU! I'M CANADIAN! I'M A JOURNALIST! I'M CANADIAN! BUY MY BOOK! DID I MENTION I'M CANADIAN?

As far as I understand it from my relatively minimal exposure to American culture*, isn't it de rigeur for young gentleman, of, let us say, a less than fulsomely attractive nature, to claim that they "met a girl at camp" who they had sex with and they couldn't produce any evidence of said congress because the lady in question "is Canadian"?

I was merely think along these lines:

Horny, ugly, young boys make up Canadian sexual careers.

Stupid, deluded, ugly, old morphodykes make up Canadian writing careers.

Something to think about.

Louis

*Notice I said the words "American culture" without flinching or without disclaimer. I are being tolerant and inclusive damn you. I want recognition and prizes for my ~~magnanimity~~ ~~generosity~~ not taking the piss out of you cultureless, uncivilised, colonial yahoos.

This Louis 'exposing himself to American culture':

I can't imagine the fun you had searching for those images on google!

I would guess you had to clean yourself up afterwards. After all, we are all aware of your.......proclivities.

Louis

P.S. Don't worry, the clerk at the computer shop will believe that you accidentally got some "yoghurt" in your keyboard when you take it for repair.

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carlsonjok

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Posted: April 01 2008,13:43

Quote (Louis @ April 01 2008,13:15)

*Notice I said the words "American culture" without flinching or without disclaimer. I are being tolerant and inclusive damn you. I want recognition and prizes for my ~~magnanimity~~ ~~generosity~~ not taking the piss out of you cultureless, uncivilised, colonial yahoos.

Louis, I, for one, salute you.

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