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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,18:46   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 23 2008,15:56)
 
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(ETA - Perhaps I should add PNA (Professor Nauseating Arrogance) after the Ph.D. initials on my webpage.)


You should certainly add it to your signature line!

It would be my materialistic pleasure to buy and share a six pack of REAL beer as you pictured.  If I am ever in KS, or you are in the Chicago area, let me know.

Well, as a materialist, I would be obliged to buy you a beer as well.

So if you make it to Kansas (or even Kansas City, as blipey noted), I'd do just that. I'd be interested in hearing what BBQ joints he has in mind!

PNA

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,18:57   

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(For those of you who find this discussion OT, just remember that baseball is far more interesting and entertaining than ID or Ftk on their best days.)

So true, and I'm a Royals fan.

Whoa. I commend you to the now dormant faith versus reason thread. And this is coming from a Cleveland sports fan.

But what is with KC's butt-ugly stadium? Who can play serious baseball under a burger king crown and whatever the hell else is going on beyond the outfield? Residents of KC should take a cue from Gaza Palestinians, tear all that stuff down, and run into Egypt.

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The Wayward Hammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,20:07   

My God, a sighting of another Royals fan.  I, in some sort of "Omega Man" scenario, thought I was the last one alive.  It is good to hear of another fellow sufferer.

And Kaufman is a wonderful stadium.  I enjoyed many wonderful nights in the right field general admission section.  So stop dogging it.  OK, the big scoreboard could go, but I like the fountains.

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,22:27   

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Quote (blipey @ Jan. 23 2008,19:31)
 
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(For those of you who find this discussion OT, just remember that baseball is far more interesting and entertaining than ID or Ftk on their best days.)

So true, and I'm a Royals fan.

Whoa. I commend you to the now dormant faith versus reason thread. And this is coming from a Cleveland sports fan.

But what is with KC's butt-ugly stadium? Who can play serious baseball under a burger king crown and whatever the hell else is going on beyond the outfield? Residents of KC should take a cue from Gaza Palestinians, tear all that stuff down, and run into Egypt.

Don't even get me started about the stadium issue.  Don't get me wrong, Kauffman is a great place to watch a game.  The fountains are gorgeous, the sight lines are all superb, and the field is immaculate.  That being said, it is in a terrible part of town, practically in the suburbs.

A couple of years ago we had the chance to build a brand new  park downtown and the voters nixed it.  Primarily because the citizens of Kansas City are generally scared to death of urban America.  I'm not sure why this is as the metro area has over 2 million people and we like all the things that come from being a city.  Too much land breeds too many suburbanites who forget that if there is no urban core, there are no suburbs.

Cutting to the chase, we'll have to watch baseball at Kauffman for at least another 20 years, and there will be no synergy with the new arts center, entertainment district, and Sprint Center downtown.  Stupid beyond belief.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,23:01   



We're still talking about sex, right?  :angry:
:D

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,23:17   

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We're still talking about sex, right?  :angry:
:D

I think the boys were trying to last a little longer in this thread.

*think about baseball, think about baseball*

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2008,23:38   

2x2=4
2x4=8
2x5=12
2x6=19
2x7=Oh, God, 5, what?
2x8=uhuhuhuhargleuhuhuhuhUHUH U H U H U H U H U H ! ! !
2X9=who cares.  I'm hungry.

  
argystokes



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,01:27   

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Eh, it's still a bit horoscope-like. Here's the prediction: Joe Borowski saves less than 12 games on the season, and is replaced as closer by Rafael Betancourt by June. Sorry, got baseball on the mind. Now back to your regular Ftk-watching.

Ok, prediction duly noted. We'll check back on it during the season.

Betancourt is a MACHINE and I love to watch him pitch, but I'm not sure closer is a good use of his skills. He'd be a factor in fewer games than when used as setup man. Plus he is capable of pitching 2 innings with a fair frequency, another resource likely to be underused. He also slows the game down so much I can catch a 30 minute snooze during the eighth without missing anything.

I'm not sure on what basis you'd expect Borowski's productivity to drop so dramatically. He saved 36 games for the Marlins in '06, and he was healthy all last season.

(For those of you who find this discussion OT, just remember that baseball is far more interesting and entertaining than ID or Ftk on their best days.)

I have decided to start a new thread for baseball here.

Interesting that the three of us talking sports right now are aligned with the three most suffring US sports cities: Cleveland, Seattle, and Kansas City.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,06:22   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 24 2008,05:38)
2x2=4
2x4=8
2x5=12
2x6=19
2x7=Oh, God, 5, what?
2x8=uhuhuhuhargleuhuhuhuhUHUH U H U H U H U H U H ! ! !
2X9=who cares.  I'm hungry.

Try the 13 times table. It works better.

{ahem} Allegedly.

Louis

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2008,15:51   

Quote (argystokes @ Jan. 23 2008,23:27)
Interesting that the three of us talking sports right now are aligned with the three most suffring US sports cities: Cleveland, Seattle, and Kansas City.

I've lived in Seattle for fifteen years, Argy, and this isn't suffering.  For most of that time, at least one or other Seattle team has been half-decent.

The lads are doing pretty well now (4th in whatever they're calling the third division this week), but to further your education, this here is what suffering looks like.

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In 1997-98, Doncaster also set the record for losses in a season, suffering the humiliation of enduring a record 34 league defeats as they finished bottom of Division Three and went into the Football Conference. Just after this relegation, chairman Ken Richardson was sent to prison after he tried to set fire to the Belle Vue ground in hope of being able to pay off the club's debts with the insurance money.


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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2008,10:17   

I notice you've been back a couple times, Ftk--cheering on those who continue on in your image: ducking questions, presenting no evidence, claiming they've done so (even in the current thread) when it is demonstrably false to anyone who can actually read.

So, I was wondering, maybe you could show them how it's done?

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1.  Is it okay for ID proponents to post personal information of the internet?

2.  Do you think that Wes and/or steve would not remove your personal information from the board if someone posted it?

3.  Do you think that the Baylor curators and other officials post their home addresses and phone numbers to the internet?

4.  Why re you back posting here at AtBC?

5.  How does Behe know what is in a group of books without ever having read the books?


6.  What is the point of the Behe/unread books discussion?

7.  According to ID Theory, how did the immune system develop?

8.  What is gained by jettisoning ToE and saying God did it?

9.  In the light of a science teacher teaching that the study of beetles is not a scientific effort and possibly that spiders evolved from insects (if evolution were true), how is ID theory driving kids toward science?

10. Why don't IDers pursue RESEARCH GRANTS, from the Templeton Foundation, for example?

11. Are you afraid to examine the sequence evidence for ToE?

11A.  Added.  Do you understand what sequence evidence is?

12. Where did Albatrossity2 claim that his students were religious freaks?

12A.  Added.  Where did blipey claim that his nephew's teacher was "a source of evil"?

13. Why don't IDers publish in PCID?

14. Why hasn't PCID been published in over two years?

15. Do you believe that Darwinists have kept PCID from being published?

16. How?

17. Can ID be called a theory when it hasn't made even one prediction?

18. Yes or no: ID wouldn't benefit from publishing any articles, anywhere.

19. Yes or no: Your children should be taught the historical insights of the Bhagavad Gita?

20. What sort of Waterloo can we look forward to on February 8, 2008?

Interesting side note. Just came across this comment back on page 102 where you berate people for not having read the pertinent books.  Which begs several more questions I'll put here.  Why is reading material important?  Do you think it might have been important for Behe to read some books before commenting on them?  Have you read the textbook that Albatrossity2 sent you?  Have you got that list of peer reviewed articles you've read ready to go?  Are you seriously arguing that we should read books and that IDers don't have to?

21. What are IDers doing to garner respect?

22. Given that you believe ID is science because of "design inference", why is ToE not science because all it has is inference?

23. Can any human being know what is contained in a book without having read the book?

24. If everyone died in the Flood, who wrote all the different stories down?

25. What year was the Flood over? 2300 BC

26. What year was the height of the Egyptian Empire? 2030 BC

27. What was the population of the world in that year? 30,000,000

28. How did 8 people (6 really) make that many people?


29. Is Dembski a creationist?

30. How would monogamous gays destroy heterosexual marriage?

31. How did Koalas get from Ararat to Australia?

32. Do you believe that the FLOOD is a scientifically tenable idea?

33. Are the people who run Baylor Darwin Police?

34. Are those same people Baptist?

35. What does this mean?

36. Given that HIV cannot have evolved (Behe), which of the 8 (6 really) people on the ark were carrying HIV?


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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,10:42   

[quote=blipey,Jan. 26 2008,10:17][/quote]
 
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Duke of Earl said...

   Darwin's unsubstantiated hypothesis* (which is all it could ever be described as, it lacks the empirical requirement to be a theory) was not responsible for a belief in the equality of races...

Darwinism is the belief that all living forms are descended from a single form which in turn arose from non-living matter. The kinds of changes required for this to be true have never been observed.

I seem to have been banned or blocked from commenting at RK just for "agreeing" with them that racism didn't exist before Darwin. It must be "great" being a creationist. You get to just completely make stuff up. Don't like reality? No problem! Have your own reality.

My favorite creationist argument goes like this: X exists. There is absolutely no way in the Universe that X could have happened without God. Therefore God did it.

The logic is "impeccable".

I'm new to the RK thing. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how crazy is FtK?

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,11:21   

11

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,11:25   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 27 2008,11:21)
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lol


  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,11:25   

Is BA77 into triple figures then?

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,11:32   

No crazy-meter is BA77-proof so we can't tell.

  
Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,11:50   

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So, on a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how crazy hawt is FtK?


11

There I fixed that for you, and thank you...thank you very much!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,12:10   

Hey, FTK, why you not post peoples comments on your blog? Why bother having comments open at all?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,12:38   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 27 2008,12:10)
Hey, FTK, why you not post peoples comments on your blog? Why bother having comments open at all?

I suspect it's because FtK and her ilk know that nothing "unbelievers" can say will ever affect *their* thinking... But they don't like to risk that with any of their "real" blog readers.

But I could be wrong.

I also suspect that it's because they think unbelievers are sub-human. That certainly seems to be one of J P Holdings "justifications".

But I could be wrong about that too.

What would Jesus do, FtK? Would he allow comments on his blog?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,16:27   

Quote (PTET @ Jan. 27 2008,12:38)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 27 2008,12:10)
Hey, FTK, why you not post peoples comments on your blog? Why bother having comments open at all?

I suspect it's because FtK and her ilk know that nothing "unbelievers" can say will ever affect *their* thinking... But they don't like to risk that with any of their "real" blog readers.

But I could be wrong.

I also suspect that it's because they think unbelievers are sub-human. That certainly seems to be one of J P Holdings "justifications".

But I could be wrong about that too.

What would Jesus do, FtK? Would he allow comments on his blog?

For those of you who haven't checked out PTET's blog, he has an awesome Darwin Photo, complete with demonic red-laser eyes fully armed and capable of shooting Evilution Education into the brain of unsuspecting Chreationists like Sal and FTK.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,17:11   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 27 2008,16:27)
Quote (PTET @ Jan. 27 2008,12:38)
 
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 27 2008,12:10)
Hey, FTK, why you not post peoples comments on your blog? Why bother having comments open at all?

I suspect it's because FtK and her ilk know that nothing "unbelievers" can say will ever affect *their* thinking... But they don't like to risk that with any of their "real" blog readers.

But I could be wrong.

I also suspect that it's because they think unbelievers are sub-human. That certainly seems to be one of J P Holdings "justifications".

But I could be wrong about that too.

What would Jesus do, FtK? Would he allow comments on his blog?

For those of you who haven't checked out PTET's blog, he has an awesome Darwin Photo, complete with demonic red-laser eyes fully armed and capable of shooting Evilution Education into the brain of unsuspecting Chreationists like Sal and FTK.

I like the Paris Dembski photo.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,17:15   

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lol


In dubley.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,23:16   

Quote (PTET @ Jan. 27 2008,11:42)
[quote=blipey,Jan. 26 2008,10:17][/quote]
 
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Duke of Earl said...

   Darwin's unsubstantiated hypothesis* (which is all it could ever be described as, it lacks the empirical requirement to be a theory) was not responsible for a belief in the equality of races...

Darwinism is the belief that all living forms are descended from a single form which in turn arose from non-living matter. The kinds of changes required for this to be true have never been observed.

I seem to have been banned or blocked from commenting at RK just for "agreeing" with them that racism didn't exist before Darwin. It must be "great" being a creationist. You get to just completely make stuff up. Don't like reality? No problem! Have your own reality.

My favorite creationist argument goes like this: X exists. There is absolutely no way in the Universe that X could have happened without God. Therefore God did it.

The logic is "impeccable".

I'm new to the RK thing. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how crazy is FtK?

I wouldn't call her crazy. More like 'obnoxiously ignorant'. Think of being in a high school biology class and there's some loudmouth who, for instance, the teacher says "Dolphins are mammals" and the loudmouth says "Hey y'all! He just said dolphins are mammals! Ain't he never seen a dolphin? HEL-LOOOO dolphins are fish dummy! They swim around in the ocean! Ya'll this professor's cookoo!" That's basically FtK.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2008,23:27   

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It must be "great" being a creationist. You get to just completely make stuff up. Don't like reality? No problem! Have your own reality.

They start off with the advantage of not knowing much about reality. How many actual, practicing scientists post at Uncommonly Dense, UnReasonable Kansans, Young Cosmos? Zero. It's really hard to believe in that dumb stuff if you have a scientific education. It can be done, if you have enough religious zeal, but it's hard. Jonathan Wells believes evolution is wrong, despite getting a PhD in science, because his cult leader told him so.

   
PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,00:45   

Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 27 2008,16:27)
For those of you who haven't checked out PTET's blog, he has an awesome Darwin Photo, complete with demonic red-laser eyes fully armed and capable of shooting Evilution Education into the brain of unsuspecting Chreationists like Sal and FTK.

Sweet of you to say... But my original Darwin pic wasn't quite up to scratch, so in your honor, I took another pass at it...




And yup, I totally understand the level of ignorance out there. Apparently 30% of the UK population "don't believe" in evolution. Hey, I guess I think it all comes down to a general dislike of smart asses... And no one likes those ivory tower egg-heads who think they are so smart, with their "science" and their "degrees" and all. What's maybe different about Western Europe and the USA, is that over here people are also skeptical those who wear their "faith" on their sleeves... While in the America a large chunk of the population seem to lap that right up. Hey ho.

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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,07:19   

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RB and I'd like for you et al to consider the following:

The time interval between the Fall and the first time that Adam realizes that he can beat his meat by himself.

The brief interlude between the closing of the doors on the ark and the first time that Noah considered banging one of his daughters, for the first time.

I know  this was from a long time ago but I just got to this thread and its so wonderful it has to be repeated.

I take it there is no word on these important questions from the many labs around the world researching Creation Science?

Is there are news on why my comment on FtK's blog was blocked?

Do you know who else blocked comments on their blogs, FtK?

I think you do.

It was the Nazis...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,07:52   

Blipey, you cut-pasted an oldish copy of the list. I know at least one of the objects on the current list has been crossed off due to the submitter (can't remember who) deciding that FtK clearly believes a biblical flood is a valid scientific hypothesis.

Further: Is it too late to add new questions? I'd love to know, rhetorically, if FtK thinks gravity is "just a theory" since we don't understand all the moving parts, by analogue with her total skepticism regarding any effect of evolution without a molecule-by-molecule account. I'd also like to know why not, in the event the answer is "no".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,08:54   

Annyday:

Alright, I've updated the list.  You're right, I remember the Flood point being decided, though I don't remember how long ago.  I'm also updating the list with FTK's answers included after each question she answered--for easy reference.  I've included your two questions.  I wasn't going to in deference to FTK complaining about inundation, but then thought "what the hell, the more the merrier":
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1.  Is it okay for ID proponents to post personal information of the internet?   NO

2.  Do you think that Wes and/or steve would not remove your personal information from the board if someone posted it?  
No, I believe they would....that is why I was giving them the warning that someone may be listing personal information about me.


3.  Do you think that the Baylor curators and other officials post their home addresses and phone numbers to the internet?   I have not checked into that so I do not know.  I would assume that most do not.

4.  Why re you back posting here at AtBC?   I believe I answered that on this page or the last page.  checking the previous 3 pages, there is no answer from Ftk as regards this question.  There are however, many complaints about having to answer questions and the ridiculous expectations of such. –blipey

5.  How does Behe know what is in a group of books without ever having read the books?   !!! This question is ridiculous.  Obviously, he wouldn't, and I'd have to ask Behe if he was every allowed to go through every book and article one by one and make two separate piles of what he had and had not read.  But, I tried desperately to explain in an earlier discussion that just because we have theories about how something *may have* occurred, that does not mean that all the questions have been answered nor should they be regarded as "fact". I’m counting this one as answered because of the first sentence “obviously, he wouldn’t”.  That being said, the commentary after that phrase proves that she’ll never be able to answer question 6.  perhaps this is why she stopped answering questions. –blipey

6.  What is the point of the Behe/unread books discussion?

7.  According to ID Theory, how did the immune system develop?

8.  What is gained by jettisoning ToE and saying God did it?

9.  In the light of a science teacher teaching that the study of beetles is not a scientific effort and possibly that spiders evolved from insects (if evolution were true), how is ID theory driving kids toward science?

10. Why don't IDers pursue RESEARCH GRANTS, from the Templeton Foundation, for example?

11. Are you afraid to examine the sequence evidence for ToE?

11A.  Added.  Do you understand what sequence evidence is?

12. Where did Albatrossity2 claim that his students were religious freaks?

12A.  Added.  Where did blipey claim that his nephew's teacher was "a source of evil"?

13. Why don't IDers publish in PCID?

14. Why hasn't PCID been published in over two years?

15. Do you believe that Darwinists have kept PCID from being published?

16. How?

17. Can ID be called a theory when it hasn't made even one prediction?

18. Yes or no: ID wouldn't benefit from publishing any articles, anywhere.

19. Yes or no: Your children should be taught the historical insights of the Bhagavad Gita?

20. What sort of Waterloo can we look forward to on February 8, 2008?

Interesting side note. Just came across this comment back on page 102 where you berate people for not having read the pertinent books.  Which begs several more questions I'll put here.  Why is reading material important?  Do you think it might have been important for Behe to read some books before commenting on them?  Have you read the textbook that Albatrossity2 sent you?  Have you got that list of peer reviewed articles you've read ready to go?  Are you seriously arguing that we should read books and that IDers don't have to?

21. What are IDers doing to garner respect?

22. Given that you believe ID is science because of "design inference", why is ToE not science because all it has is inference?

23. Can any human being know what is contained in a book without having read the book?

24. If everyone died in the Flood, who wrote all the different stories down?

25. What year was the Flood over? 2300 BC, answer provided for Ftk by blipey

26. What year was the height of the Egyptian Empire? 2030 BC, answer provided by blipey

27. What was the population of the world in that year? 30,000,000, answer provided by blipey

28. How did 8 people (6 really) make that many people?


29. Is Dembski a creationist?

30. How would monogamous gays destroy heterosexual marriage?

31. How did Koalas get from Ararat to Australia?

32. Do you believe that the FLOOD is a scientifically tenable idea?  yes

33. Are the people who run Baylor Darwin Police?

34. Are those same people Baptist?

35. What does this mean?

36. Given that HIV cannot have evolved (Behe), which of the 8 (6 really) people on the ark were carrying HIV?

37. Do you think that gravity is “just a theory” and therefore should be “taught critically” (to use the ID phrase)?

38. If not, what makes the details we don’t know about gravity different from the details we don’t know about evolution?


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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Annyday



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,09:03   

Excellent.

There is a point to be made about inundation, but the medium we're in should somewhat mitigate that, I think. Press-ganging someone with thirty-plus questions at once isn't productive, but when they have the option of addressing them at leisure over a fair period of time it's a little different.

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"ALL eight of the "nature" miracles of Jesus could have been accomplished via the electroweak quantum tunneling mechanism. For example, walking on water could be accomplished by directing a neutrino beam created just below Jesus' feet downward." - Frank Tipler, ISCID fellow

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2008,09:09   

Well, back on page 107, there was a discussion about the inundation and how exactly it was or wasn't.  My point here?  PAGE 107.

Most of the questions on the list can be, as I have stated earlier, be answered in about 10 words.  And the questions were not asked all at once; the list is merely a compilation of questions she has refused to ever answer.  If she behaved as a rational human being, answering questions in the midst of discussion, the list would never have been created in the first place, let alone have gown to its present length.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
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