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Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2011,15:16    You're not actually expecting a response that is any more thoughtful than you'd get from a rock, are you Blipey? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2011,16:17    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 24 2011,13:16) You're not actually expecting a response that is any more thoughtful than you'd get from a rock, are you Blipey? There'll be no response at all.  She's even dropped the old "OMG YOU ARE TEH BIG MEANIES!!!!!!!" flounce-outs.  Now she just wanders off, muttering to herself. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2011,18:31    Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 24 2011,15:16) You're not actually expecting a response that is any more thoughtful than you'd get from a rock, are you Blipey? No.  As with most things concerning FTK, there is a very small chance that someone who cares about her (or someone who is being mislead by her) will wander in.  If they do, then there's all the FTK threads for them to wander around in.  Maybe some small percentage of them will be encouraged to ask some questions. That's all.  FTK herself is hopeless. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2011,18:27    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 23 2011,10:29) To Wes and everyone at AtBC: Just push play! Merry Winter Festival and a Happy New Trip Around The Sun With Associated Axis Tilt... Guess I was too late. :-( I just got a generic sign-in page with Ke$ha and Taylor $wift. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2011,12:31    ***** According to the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, while both male and female reindeer grow antlers in the summer each year, male reindeer drop their antlers at the beginning of winter, usually late November to mid-December. Female reindeer retain their antlers till after they give birth in the spring. Therefore, according to every historical rendition depicting Santa's reindeer, every single one of them, from Rudolph to Blitzen - had to be a girl. We should've known. Only women would be able to drag a fat man in a red velvet suit all around the world in one night and not get lost. *****

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2011,15:51    Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 27 2011,01:27) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 23 2011,10:29) To Wes and everyone at AtBC: Just push play! Merry Winter Festival and a Happy New Trip Around The Sun With Associated Axis Tilt... Guess I was too late. :-( I just got a generic sign-in page with Ke$ha and Taylor $wift. This is so not normal it might be anormal. The link is cleansy... Anyway, the track was not the point. The feeling was :) -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2011,15:57    Peace on Earth. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2011,18:54    Holy crap, poor Victoria Jackson. It's one thing for the talking-head puppet masters like Limbaugh and Beck to say this shit, but she obviously believes it (as they of course do not), and someone in the Christian community that she trusts needs to sit her down pronto and tell her, "Get some help." I know what the issues regarding radical Islam in America are. The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the highest levels of government is not one of them. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2011,04:54    Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 28 2011,18:54) Holy crap, poor Victoria Jackson. It's one thing for the talking-head puppet masters like Limbaugh and Beck to say this shit, but she obviously believes it (as they of course do not), and someone in the Christian community that she trusts needs to sit her down pronto and tell her, "Get some help." I know what the issues regarding radical Islam in America are. The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the highest levels of government is not one of them. Aren't there people who think that Barack Obama is a - gasp! - Muslim? -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2011,08:06    Quote (Kattarina98 @ Dec. 29 2011,04:54) Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 28 2011,18:54) Holy crap, poor Victoria Jackson. It's one thing for the talking-head puppet masters like Limbaugh and Beck to say this shit, but she obviously believes it (as they of course do not), and someone in the Christian community that she trusts needs to sit her down pronto and tell her, "Get some help." I know what the issues regarding radical Islam in America are. The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the highest levels of government is not one of them. Aren't there people who think that Barack Obama is a - gasp! - Muslim? Yes!  And those same people can seriously hold the idea in their little pointy heads that Obama put the hit on Osama to cover up his Muslim Brotherhood Brothers! Sort of like IDCists and design. It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of IDCists, Bible Code Believers, UFO Believers, Big Foot Believers, and Tea Party Jihadists. I think it would look like One Big Cross Eye! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2011,08:32    Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 29 2011,08:06) Quote (Kattarina98 @ Dec. 29 2011,04:54) Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 28 2011,18:54) Holy crap, poor Victoria Jackson. It's one thing for the talking-head puppet masters like Limbaugh and Beck to say this shit, but she obviously believes it (as they of course do not), and someone in the Christian community that she trusts needs to sit her down pronto and tell her, "Get some help." I know what the issues regarding radical Islam in America are. The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the highest levels of government is not one of them. Aren't there people who think that Barack Obama is a - gasp! - Muslim? Yes!  And those same people can seriously hold the idea in their little pointy heads that Obama put the hit on Osama to cover up his Muslim Brotherhood Brothers! Sort of like IDCists and design. It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of IDCists, Bible Code Believers, UFO Believers, Big Foot Believers, and Tea Party Jihadists. I think it would look like One Big Cross Eye! The irony is, before September 11 happened, these same conservatives were praising Islam for its control over society, particularly over women and "nonbelievers." I should dig up some of those quotes. They were priceless. Of course, the Bush Administration hosted the Taliban in our country and was for a pipeline deal with them before said administration was against it. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2011,13:06    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 28 2011,13:51) Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 27 2011,01:27)   Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 23 2011,10:29) To Wes and everyone at AtBC: Just push play! Merry Winter Festival and a Happy New Trip Around The Sun With Associated Axis Tilt... Guess I was too late. :-( I just got a generic sign-in page with Ke$ha and Taylor $wift. This is so not normal it might be anormal. The link is cleansy... Anyway, the track was not the point. The feeling was :) Agreed. Back at you, be-very-latedly. ;-} eta Deleting #! in the link got me to your page. Sounds sincere to me. :-)  Who's the bass? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2011,17:51    Happy new year, everyone! Now we get to hear all the blather about the Mayan calendar and 2012... -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2011,19:26    Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 31 2011,17:51) Happy new year, everyone! Now we get to hear all the blather about the Mayan calendar and 2012... ;) Several of my students have asked me about 2012 in a way that shows me they know they're not supposed to believe it but they really need someone to tell them they shouldn't be they do. Happy New Year of trying to introduce reality to the credulous. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2012,00:27    Happy New Year to all! -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

Seversky Posts: 442 Joined: June 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2012,02:05    Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 31 2011,17:51) Happy new year, everyone! Now we get to hear all the blather about the Mayan calendar and 2012... ;) If the Mayan were so smart, how come they didn't predict their own demise?  Huh?  Huh?  Bueller?  Dembski?  Anyone?

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2012,02:18    Happy New Orbit, everyone!

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2012,02:44    SUCK IT, '11, YOU'RE OUTTA HERE. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2012,10:38    The Yucatec Maya shared the common Mayan belief that the universe had been created and destroyed several times by a powerful deity (who had also created all the other gods), and would be most likely destroyed again. A late classical innovation was the notion that these events were periodic. What has always amused, and irritated me is that none of  these so-called "Mayan experts" seem to have learned Mayan. I recall meeting one nit-wit "Mayan Art Expert" in a Merida hotel lobby. He could not even book a room because he could not even speak Spanish, let alone the local Mayan dialect.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,10:49    -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,11:03    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,10:49) Can I steal this? -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,11:31    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,08:49) Brilliant! It reminds me of this: Quote As this table shows, although creationists are adamant that none of these are transitional and all are either apes or humans, they are not able to agree on which are which. In fact, there are a number of creationists who have changed their opinion on some fossils. They do not even appear to be converging towards a consistent opinion. Gish and Taylor both used to consider Peking Man an ape and 1470 a human, but now Gish says they are both apes, and Taylor says they were both humans. Now we're even seeing the phenomenon of creationists who can't quite decide if an individual skull is human or ape - and yet they're quite sure it can't be an intermediate. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

PTET Posts: 133 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,11:52    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,10:49) Great stuff - and a nice reminder that objections to "macroevolution" are just rehashes of Zeno's Paradox... (Happy new year all. /relurk). -------------- "It’s not worth the effort to prove the obvious. Ridiculous ideas don’t deserve our time. Even the attempt to formulate ID is a generous accommodation." - ScottAndrews

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,13:09    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,10:49) I would love to see a version of this with several sentences, lines, and words removed to represent the gaps in evolution as a further illustration of why the argument is silly. Awesome example as it is though. Thanks! -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,13:09    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,10:49) PotW. Essential bookmark. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,13:15    Oh, I saw it on reddit EDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r....olution -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2012,16:34    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 03 2012,11:15) Oh, I saw it on reddit EDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r....ol....olution ... and a sdie-by-side divergent evolution version where red changes to green instead? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2012,20:21    Junk Science??? A freshman at Eagle Rock Junior High won first prize at the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair on January 26. In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide." And for plenty of good reasons, since it can: 1. cause excessive sweating and vomiting 2. it is a major component in acid rain 3. it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state 4. accidental inhalation can kill you 5. it contributes to erosion 6. it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes 7. it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients. He asked 150 people if they supported a ban of the chemical. One hundred forty-three said yes Six were undecided Only one knew that the chemical was... Water! The title of his prize winning project was, "How Gullible Are We?" . . . . . . . . He was attempting to show how conditioned we have become to the alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment. The conclusion is obvious.  (and also rather elementary!) --------------------------------------- Henry

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2012,22:17    Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 04 2012,20:21) Junk Science??? A freshman at Eagle Rock Junior High won first prize at the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair on January 26. In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide." And for plenty of good reasons, since it can: 1. cause excessive sweating and vomiting 2. it is a major component in acid rain 3. it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state 4. accidental inhalation can kill you 5. it contributes to erosion 6. it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes 7. it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients. He asked 150 people if they supported a ban of the chemical. One hundred forty-three said yes Six were undecided Only one knew that the chemical was... Water! The title of his prize winning project was, "How Gullible Are We?" . . . . . . . . He was attempting to show how conditioned we have become to the alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment. The conclusion is obvious.  (and also rather elementary!) --------------------------------------- Henry 143 people support ID? -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2012,04:37    With a bit of luck (well, cash, mostly), Ali and I might be in the St Pete area around the end of april for a week. If we manage the flights, we'll be staying in a condo at North Redington Beach, a short walk away from the Gator Caffé I once recommended. So, Wes, Monica, other Floridans in the area, if this trip comes to life, what about a lunch, or at least a lager? (yes, I'm planning way ahead) -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

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