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Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,07:51    Brunswick is the southernmost coastal county in North Carolina.  I am neither a resident of nor have children in the Brunswick school system, so I don't have any standing, but I will make time to attend the Oct 21 meeting. http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....mnist58 http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....e_says_ -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,08:29    Quote (Paul Flocken @ Sep. 18 2008,07:51) Brunswick is the southernmost coastal county in North Carolina.  I am neither a resident of nor have children in the Brunswick school system, so I don't have any standing, but I will make time to attend the Oct 21 meeting. http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....mnist58 http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....e_says_ You have to love this sentence from the second article that Paul linked. Quote The Brunswick County school system offers a Bible as Literature course in high school, but it’s not being taught this year because no students signed up for it, according to administrators. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,09:59    Another School Board Poised to Make a Mistake I've sent a note off to the reporter, pointing out the trouble reporters had in the Dover case. Forewarned, forearmed, etc. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,11:04    The state was pretty quick on the kibosh. Notice on the Austringer. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Sep. 18 2008,11:22 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,11:25    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Sep. 18 2008,08:29)   Quote (Paul Flocken @ Sep. 18 2008,07:51) Brunswick is the southernmost coastal county in North Carolina.  I am neither a resident of nor have children in the Brunswick school system, so I don't have any standing, but I will make time to attend the Oct 21 meeting. http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....mnist58 http://www.starnewsonline.com/article....e_says_ You have to love this sentence from the second article that Paul linked.     Quote The Brunswick County school system offers a Bible as Literature course in high school, but it’s not being taught this year because no students signed up for it, according to administrators. I think it's unfortunate that a Bible as Lit course was not more popular - if it resembles the one that I took, it's an literary overview of the symbolic nature of much biblical language (40 days and nights, 7 apostles, 7 days of fasting, things occurring in 3s, etc.) and of the various narrative forms (songs, poetry, oral history, scholarly revision/editing, redacted and then readded material, nightmare visions, etc.) contained in it, which reinforces the absurdity of trying to take this work "literally." (People writing the Bible didn't even have any concept of literal versus metaphorical meaning.) That could be why the kids didn't sign up for it - too much thinking required. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2008,12:45    Quote (Kristine @ Sep. 18 2008,12:25) I think it's unfortunate that a Bible as Lit course was not more popular - if it resembles the one that I took, it's an literary overview of the symbolic nature of much biblical language (40 days and nights, 7 apostles, 7 days of fasting, things occurring in 3s, etc.) and of the various narrative forms (songs, poetry, oral history, scholarly revision/editing, redacted and then readded material, nightmare visions, etc.) contained in it, which reinforces the absurdity of trying to take this work "literally." (People writing the Bible didn't even have any concept of literal versus metaphorical meaning.) That could be why the kids didn't sign up for it - too much thinking required. I'm actually looking for a good concise Bible as Lit type book. It'll deepen my understanding of some of the lit I read, like Shakespeare and Wodehouse.

Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2008,15:20    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Sep. 18 2008,09:29) You have to love this sentence from the second article that Paul linked. Quote The Brunswick County school system offers a Bible as Literature course in high school, but it’s not being taught this year because no students signed up for it, according to administrators. Ja, that's gotta sting the nutjobs who want nothing more than more babble in the schools.  I think the reporter definitely showed she has a good sense of the absurd when she wrote that. Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 18 2008,12:04) The state was pretty quick on the kibosh. Notice on the Austringer. I don't think this was any kind of official policy pronouncement.  The school board meeting was Tuesday and the article was in the Wednesday paper.  The reporter or the editor, or both, may have thought they had a live one by the hair and she spent Wednesday calling the relevant agencies and people, the second article on Thursday being the fruits of that effort.  But it would be good if the school board takes the hint. By the way, how did you have this barely an hour after the article was posted to the web. Quote Brunswick school board to consider creationism teaching By Ana Ribeiro Staff Writer Published: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. Quote Austringer 16 Sep 2008 11:44 pm Another School Board Poised to Make a Mistake I missed the first article because they buried it by placing it in the B section and I don't have the leisure to read whole papers during the week.  The second article was given front page (below the fold, but still) status.  The editor knew he had a hot one.  I thought I was doing good to get the thread up only a few hours after I saw the second article. My hopes and dreams of being one of Wesley's Minions dashed. Still intend to be at that next meeting, but the calender for the BCSB does not list the meeting as the 21st of October but rather the 7th.  Does not bode well.  I'll drive down there both days. -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2008,15:27    LOL. Just FYI my gf likes to do an absurd fake asian voice, and she just came by the computer and said "You're reading a comment by Paur Frocken."

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2008,15:29    Actually, it was more like two hours, since the Austringer server is on Central time. I get Google email alerts on a variety of keywords. Sometimes that pays off. Mostly it means I have a lot of clutter in my inbox. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2008,18:24    Why do I have this strange urge to write a cover of DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince's "Parents just don't understand" retitled  "School boards just don't fucking learn"? Louis -------------- Bye.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 21 2008,19:20    Well, these boards are after all made up of people who aren't themselves going to school... Henry

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