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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,16:18   

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What?  He was going to roll it up and swat you with it?

Nope, it's...Illustrated! *cue screechy violin horror-film music* Okay, I should have said: "Big Illustrated book of English Dentistry " Bah, I give up. I need better material.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,16:42   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Jan. 16 2007,16:18)
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What?  He was going to roll it up and swat you with it?

Nope, it's...Illustrated! *cue screechy violin horror-film music* Okay, I should have said: "Big Illustrated book of English Dentistry " Bah, I give up. I need better material.

I think you mean this:



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,16:57   

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Kristine is a foul mouthed, tone lowering, hip shaker who's much worse than Joe G.

Now that's more like it. :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:09   

Woo Who, new UD contributor!
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Lee Bowman
A businessman in the Phoenix area, Lee Bowman’s employment began in aerospace, and consisted of involvement in the development and production of the Minuteman Guidance system, and ‘SINS’, the ‘Ships Inertial Navigation Systems’ project at Autonetics, in Anaheim, CA. Subsequent employment was with Baxter Healthcare and the Arizona Hospital Association. On July 1, 1982 he founded Westlab Scientific, a biomedical engineering firm in Phoenix Arizona, performing field service in three states. Current projects are the anticipated establishment of Westlab Multimedia by the fall of 2007, and current and ongoing research in the areas of both natural and guided evolutionary concepts.


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:15   

Quote (argystokes @ Jan. 16 2007,18:09)
... and current and ongoing research in the areas of both natural and guided evolutionary concepts.

Well it suddenly gets vague right there, doesn't it. Very specific, and then some vague language about evolution research.

I suspect this research consists of sitting in a chair and looking at something and saying, "That shure looks designed".

But I could be wrong.

edit: anyway, maybe he'll bring a little brains to the table. Beating up people like Salvador and JoeG is...well, we're not picking on somebody our own size, that's for sure.

edit 2: of course, this is Uncommonly Dense we're talking about. There's no surer way to get banned than to have some idea what you're talking about, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

   
GCT



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:48   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 16 2007,16:00)
I think Steve just was proactively trying to make sure sure none of us here started emulating Mr. Gallien.

Thou shalt not emulate the tard...

Oh crap.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:50   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 16 2007,16:57)
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Kristine is a foul mouthed, tone lowering, hip shaker who's much worse than Joe G.

Now that's more like it. :p

The only thing keeping Kate from stooping to Joe's level and giving him a permanent stoop is Janie.  Janie wants her to finish the porn story first.

He needs to back up off Kristine for his own good.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:52   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2007,18:15)
edit: anyway, maybe he'll bring a little brains to the table. Beating up people like Salvador and JoeG is...well, we're not picking on somebody our own size, that's for sure.

edit 2: of course, this is Uncommonly Dense we're talking about. There's no surer way to get banned than to have some idea what you're talking about, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

Don't get your hopes up, because he's posted there before and it's good tard.

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http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/1540
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Casey Luskin’s critique of Forrest is revealing of the fact that she and others have it in mind to discredit the ID movement, label it as religiously motivated, and attempt to classify it as not being scientifically investigable. But is that criticism justified? Logic and ethics would have it that a personal faith based orientation is entirely separate from a person’s investigative field, and should not even be considered in evaluating that field. Luskin correctly points out that Theistic Evolutionists like Kenneth Miller have made similar theistic inferences (in ‘Finding Darwin’s God’), but are never likewise criticized.

So the question of an empirical examination of ID comes to roost on things like specified complexity, the origin of data, the mechanistic view of irreducible complexity, and in my view, order, organization, synergy, motive and aesthetics. Its investigative focus is not a designer’s mind or mindset, but the artifact due to a designer’s mind. When will critics of ID, and unfortunately our legal system, get it right? Barbara Forrest (and the others) have thus far failed on all counts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,17:59   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2007,17:15)
 
Quote (argystokes @ Jan. 16 2007,18:09)
... and current and ongoing research in the areas of both natural and guided evolutionary concepts.

Well it suddenly gets vague right there, doesn't it. Very specific, and then some vague language about evolution research.

I suspect this research consists of sitting in a chair and looking at something and saying, "That shure looks designed".

But I could be wrong.

edit: anyway, maybe he'll bring a little brains to the table. Beating up people like Salvador and JoeG is...well, we're not picking on somebody our own size, that's for sure.

edit 2: of course, this is Uncommonly Dense we're talking about. There's no surer way to get banned than to have some idea what you're talking about, so I'm not getting my hopes up.



No danger of that happening to Lee Bowman!  He has posted to talk.origins occasionally.


"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs,
taste, and texture.  The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can
be held straighter.  The taste consists mainly of the esters Octyl
Acetate, and the texture is due to a unique cellular structure.  The
'asexual' Cavendish banana has no seeds, is highly edible, and has
become a staple for much of the world's developing countries.

Why and how did it come into being?  Darwin theory doesn't attempt to
explain it.  Any thots?

By the way, I can't swallow the idea that human intervention made it
edible.  The variety that's eaten has a reproductive structure that
negates the need for seeds.  It's theorized that a random mutation
"many thousands of years ago" removed the seeds, thus making it
edible.  Wasn't that thoughtful of nature?  Interesting that when the
seeds left, an alternate system of reproduction fell into place. "

How about another:
"Anything can exist in this universe.  If you postulated quarks prior
to the 70's, you'd have been labeled as 'nuts'.  If quarks and other
subatomic particles exist, Why is it so hard to accept non-physical
entities?

It's still an open question as to whether or not you are just 'you'
(the physical body), or if the body itself is simply a vehicle for the
real you.  Out of body experiences are common, and there's been tons
of books written on the subject. "

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:04   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 15 2007,16:39)
So anybody who wants to beam down, perhaps dressed in a Viking costume and kicking down my door... (what a brave soul!;).

Wassail !!!!!!!


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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:09   

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This is funny because "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank is a pencil-neck geek who would get throttled in any physical altercation.

However Lenny and I am on the same page- ya see I want a fight. And if Lenny feels up to it I will start with him and work my way through the evolutionitwits like a hot knife through butter.

What say thee, Lenny?

I sayeth, Daneaxes and Chainmail, at a time and place of your choosing.


You may borrow one of mine, if you need.


I've never met a fundie yet whose mouth wasn't bigger than his balls.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:11   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Jan. 16 2007,18:09)
Quote (argystokes @ Jan. 15 2007,18:42)
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This is funny because "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank is a pencil-neck geek who would get throttled in any physical altercation.

However Lenny and I am on the same page- ya see I want a fight. And if Lenny feels up to it I will start with him and work my way through the evolutionitwits like a hot knife through butter.

What say thee, Lenny?

I sayeth, Daneaxes and Chainmail, at a time and place of your choosing.


You may borrow one of mine, if you need.


I've never met a fundie yet whose mouth wasn't bigger than his balls.

Goade ye not the Tarde lest the designer thinketh 'I have wrought an imperfect thing, that's the last time I use generic CSI.'

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:19   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 16 2007,18:59)
No danger of that happening to Lee Bowman!  He has posted to talk.origins occasionally.


"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs,
taste, and texture.  The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can
be held straighter. ...

Oh good lord.

No change there. UncommonlyDense is SNAFU.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:21   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2007,18:19)
"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs,
taste, and texture.  The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can
be held straighter.

Sounds awfully homoerotic to me . . . . . .

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:47   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 16 2007,13:32)
I agree, although Joe seems to be suggesting a new type of explanitory filter. "Is that science, miss jones?"

I think you're onto to something there.  

Wait. Let me restate.

JoeG HAS invented a new sort of explanatory filter: one that filters all scientific explanation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,18:59   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Jan. 16 2007,19:21)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2007,18:19)
"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs,
taste, and texture.  The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can
be held straighter.

Sounds awfully homoerotic to me . . . . . .

Or Kirk Camerotic?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,19:00   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 16 2007,15:56)
When I listen to Steve Meyer I shudder.  Not at what he is saying, but at how well he says it.

Absolutely. As I previously observed (on 12/23): Meyer is by far the slickest and smartest-sounding empty container in the ID bunch - he has a high IQ, scientistic patter nailed.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,19:24   

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"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs,
taste, and texture.  The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can
be held straighter.  The taste consists mainly of the esters Octyl
Acetate, and the texture is due to a unique cellular structure.  The
'asexual' Cavendish banana has no seeds, is highly edible, and has
become a staple for much of the world's developing countries.

Don't dismiss this out of hand. Think about it: NOTHING is wasted.  After providing delicious nutrition AND becoming the foundation of tropical cultures, the banana gives us the peel, which upon discard onto a suitably smooth surface deploys in five-sided, petal-like manner, and thereby carefully places a lubricated membrane in contact with said surface while facing a tough, non-slip grip upward - arranging for generations of mirthful pratfalls and humorous missteps! The designer cares about us, and wants us to laugh!

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,19:26   

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The only thing keeping Kate from stooping to Joe's level and giving him a permanent stoop is Janie.  Janie wants her to finish the porn story first.

He needs to back up off Kristine for his own good.

Oh, no, no. JoeG was picking on Occam's Aftershave. And I got all prickly and protective. (Not of JoeG.)

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ke.



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,21:30   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 16 2007,19:00)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 16 2007,15:56)
When I listen to Steve Meyer I shudder.  Not at what he is saying, but at how well he says it.

Absolutely. As I previously observed (on 12/23): Meyer is by far the slickest and smartest-sounding empty container in the ID bunch - he has a high IQ, scientistic patter nailed.

Oh ........sssssso a ssssssnake oil salesssssman.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,22:02   

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Woo Who, new UD contributor!  
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Lee Bowman
A businessman in the Phoenix area, Lee Bowman’s employment began in aerospace, and consisted of involvement in the development and production of the Minuteman Guidance system, and ‘SINS’, the ‘Ships Inertial Navigation Systems’ project at Autonetics, in Anaheim, CA. Subsequent employment was with Baxter Healthcare and the Arizona Hospital Association. On July 1, 1982 he founded Westlab Scientific, a biomedical engineering firm in Phoenix Arizona, performing field service in three states. Current projects are the anticipated establishment of Westlab Multimedia by the fall of 2007, and current and ongoing research in the areas of both natural and guided evolutionary concepts.

This is practically a classical stereotype of an ID advocate, virtually a parody. ALL the pieces are there:

1) businessman
2) hails from big ugly reactionary sunbelt city
3) worked in aerospace
4) worked in defense designing weapons
5) spent time in Orange County
6) started his own engineering firm
7) absolutely no training or experience in biology or life sciences

Two to one he lives in a gated community and he's a prominent figure in the Phoenix Republican Party and/or a pastor in his local church.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,22:33   

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01/16/2007

7:02 pm
bdelloid

"But a Theory of Evolution does provide explantory power in understanding the existence poorly adaptive characters."

Right. No one has a problem with random mutation and natural selection working to undo an intelligent design. That’s just the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics in action. It’s to be expected.

Frankly it’s a bloody miracle that life still exists at all in the presence of random mutation and natural selection. It’s a clear testimony to the elegance of the initial front-loaded genome billions of years ago that it got life this far with so many obstacles in the way.



Why the hangup with SLOT? I thought DeTard could violate it with a keyboard. Is DeTard>the Designer?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2007,23:58   

Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 16 2007,19:26)
Oh, no, no. JoeG was picking on Occam's Aftershave. And I got all prickly and protective. (Not of JoeG.)

Awww...(blush)

No worries dear, I can take care of business ;) I've dealt with the idiot for several years now across many C/E boards - he's got a big mouth and that's all.

Gallien had his chance with me.  He made his empty physical threats to me a few years back, so I gave him the time and address for my Sr.A ice hockey club's practice.  When the wiener found out I used to play semi-pro (for a while right out of college), he suddenly got real quiet and didn't show (not that I ever expected him to  - he's in NH and I'm in CA.)

There's nothing quite so pathetic as a spineless loser like Gallien making physical threats via the internet.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,00:15   

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Lee Bowman:

"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs, taste, and texture. The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can be held straighter.  The 'asexual' Cavendish banana has no seeds, is highly edible...By the way, I can't swallow...


Lee Bowman , meet "beautiful healthy young bodies" Mentok. Seriously, I love you guys. Get a room.

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ke.



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,03:16   

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Lee Bowman:

"The banana obviously appears designed, with it's tear along ribs, taste, and texture. The curve simplifies eating, since the wrist can be held straighter.  The 'asexual' Cavendish banana has no seeds, is highly edible...By the way, I can't swallow...


Lee Bowman , meet "beautiful healthy young bodies" Mentok. Seriously, I love you guys. Get a room.

That would be a much better show than a bunch of tards sitting around in their little ID glasshouse oblivious to the howls of laughter in the real world.

They should invite DT, he can check if their 'fronts are loaded' (bring your tape measure DT .....you know, the one you use to quantify g$d's original genome)

Hey Homo, is that a banana in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? -DT

OK big boy. You show me your 'banana' and I'll show you mine. Lee

Let me kiss your beatiful man boobs Davey Tard-Mentok


....I wonder if DT has trouble finding 9" heels his size.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,06:33   

Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Jan. 16 2007,22:33)
   
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41

DaveScot


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Frankly it’s a bloody miracle that life still exists at all in the presence of random mutation and natural selection. It’s a clear testimony to the elegance of the initial front-loaded genome billions of years ago that it got life this far with so many obstacles in the way. [/b]

"Miracle." DS admirably boils ID's problems down to a single word. The prescient classic:



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,07:25   

From the Bill O'Reilly school of Truthiness™.

Joseph    
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I don't see anything wrong with kicking his ass. He wants it and he deserves it. I am just volunteering to let him have it.

Joseph    
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I didn't threaten Lenny.


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,07:25   

In the last couple of days, Dembski has posted two ID experiments to UD: the empty cage, and the green goo.

Do you think he's working on a science fair project?

If so, Bill, there are lots of other neat ideas here!

Some of my favorites:
 
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14. Can salt water and fresh water fish live in the same water or not?

Guess that one has something to do with the Flood.
 
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53. Were all the animals friendly to man before the Flood? Idea: raise several baby animals like snake and mouse together to see if they remain friends as they are older.

That one may not have such a happy ending.  Next time try it with a lion and a lamb.
 
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65. What affects skin color? Is one color better than another? What was God's purpose in this?

Riiight. [backs away slowly]

 
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22. Could a person function without thumbs? or What would it be like to not have thumbs?

8. How much voltage or current can a human take before he is killed? Could do experiments on a plant.

Or you could do them on the guy whose thumbs you just cut off.

Finally:
 
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49. How does friction work?

Remember, kids, always use plenty of lube...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,07:26   

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Ha, ha. Joseph challenges Lenny to a physical fight.  
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This is funny because "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank is a pencil-neck geek who would get throttled in any physical altercation.

However Lenny and I am on the same page- ya see I want a fight. And if Lenny feels up to it I will start with him and work my way through the evolutionitwits like a hot knife through butter.

What say thee, Lenny?

(and clarifies he does mean a physical fight in the comments)  
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The OP is all about physical confrontation, ie fighting


Oh, man. Lenny, you should definitelyagree to meet him somewhere, preferably in the middle of nowhere. Then follow Dembski's lead.

Joe has a history of 'challenging' people to fight - and then, I'm sure you will be shocked - backing out.  
He used to write things like "I'm sure if we sat face to face, you would see things my way" when you explained to him that he was wrong about something.
That, and the fact that he took to posting people's home addresses and making little threats, got a few of us at NAIG riled up a few years ago.  I was on spring break, and as I live only 2.5 hours from Boston, I told Joe to name the time and place, providing it was before I had ot go back to work.  Amazingly, Joe stopped posting for several days (after having posted a dozen or more times per day up to then), and the thread scrolled to the bottom of the page.  The day before I have to go back to work, Joe starts posting in the scrolled-down thread about how he is ready 'any time'...

He also pulled something similar with a poster that went by 'Skepticboy' and an other guy named Robert.

He is s typical bully - bluff and bluster when he knows nothing will come of it.

By the way - he has had back surgery...

added in edit - and OA - forgot about that episode....

:p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2007,08:45   

I have tried to engage Joseph a number of times, but he has not always allowed my comments to appear. He also resorts to unprovoked personal attacks. Lately, his arguments have been so lame that they hardly need a response.

Joe G        
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Many people ask if there is a theory of Intelligent Design. To which I respond, "Is there a theory of Archaeology?"

With this rhetorical question, Joseph reveals his misunderstanding of the basic terms of science, including the nature of a scientific theory.

Archaeology is *defined* as the study of human artifacts. Intelligent Design is a *claim* about biological structures. They are not parallel concepts. Archaeology is a field of study. There is no single theory of Archaeology any more than there is a single Theory of Physics. And in Archaeology, an assertion that an object is manufactured requires validation by multiple lines of evidence and skeptical inquiry. Joseph does not apply skepticism concerning his assertions at any time, but merely assumes his conclusions.

Joseph then goes on to say that Intelligent Design is an "inference", then he claims that ID is an "observation", then he claims it is an "assumption". His lack of understanding of these basic terms is evident and explains how he can reach such unsupported conclusions.

One of the basic claims that Joseph makes is that if we can't explain a phenomena as due to natural causes, then it was due to Intelligent Design. Of course, the greater Joseph's areas of ignorance, the more that can be ascribed to the Designer. Next thing you know, he will claim the Moon's orbit is due to Design rather than gravity and historical contingency.

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