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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2009,10:27   

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Joseph: What is a paternal family tree?

It can mean the entire family tree of one's father. Or it can mean just the male line, such as when discussing male inheritance.

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Pidancier et al., Evolutionary history of the genus Capra, Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, 2006: The ancestral sorting hypothesis would imply that many divergent mtDNA and Y-chromosome lineages existed in the ancestral population gene pool. Subsequently, different lineages were randomly sorted into different daughter populations or taxa... This could also explain the discordance between the maternal and paternal tree topologies.


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Joseph: What is a patrilineage?

It can mean a line of descent traced through the males, or it can refer to the groups related through a common male ancestor.

In any case, if we trace male ancestry, we have a line; if we trace male descent, we have a tree; if we group each male with his male descendents, then we have a nested hierarchy.

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2009,19:03   

Quote (Zachriel @ April 25 2009,10:27)
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Joseph: What is a paternal family tree?

It can mean the entire family tree of one's father. Or it can mean just the male line, such as when discussing male inheritance.

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Pidancier et al., Evolutionary history of the genus Capra, Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, 2006: The ancestral sorting hypothesis would imply that many divergent mtDNA and Y-chromosome lineages existed in the ancestral population gene pool. Subsequently, different lineages were randomly sorted into different daughter populations or taxa... This could also explain the discordance between the maternal and paternal tree topologies.


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Joseph: What is a patrilineage?

It can mean a line of descent traced through the males, or it can refer to the groups related through a common male ancestor.

In any case, if we trace male ancestry, we have a line; if we trace male descent, we have a tree; if we group each male with his male descendents, then we have a nested hierarchy.

Hmmm.  It seems so simple. :)

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,06:18   

Quote (blipey @ April 25 2009,17:03)
Quote (Zachriel @ April 25 2009,10:27)
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Joseph: What is a paternal family tree?

It can mean the entire family tree of one's father. Or it can mean just the male line, such as when discussing male inheritance.

 
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Pidancier et al., Evolutionary history of the genus Capra, Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, 2006: The ancestral sorting hypothesis would imply that many divergent mtDNA and Y-chromosome lineages existed in the ancestral population gene pool. Subsequently, different lineages were randomly sorted into different daughter populations or taxa... This could also explain the discordance between the maternal and paternal tree topologies.


 
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Joseph: What is a patrilineage?

It can mean a line of descent traced through the males, or it can refer to the groups related through a common male ancestor.

In any case, if we trace male ancestry, we have a line; if we trace male descent, we have a tree; if we group each male with his male descendents, then we have a nested hierarchy.

Hmmm.  It seems so simple. :)

Unfortunately, Joe is even simpler.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,06:40   

I have to wonder where Joe thinks he's going, in his mind does he have a chance at redefining words and their accepted usage simply by being an ass on a blog probably only 10 people read? And only then for laughs?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,07:27   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ April 26 2009,06:40)
I have to wonder where Joe thinks he's going, in his mind does he have a chance at redefining words and their accepted usage simply by being an ass on a blog probably only 10 people read? And only then for laughs?

Joseph has spent his life wrestling with the vast body of scientific knowledge.  I think it is fair to say that, at this point, Joseph has finally won out over it.

H/T Elwood P. Dowd

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It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

  
slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,16:26   

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Veteran Joe watchers:  Have you heard this?
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BTW I was a staunch evolutionist until I started looking more closely at the scientific data while studying to be a zoologist/marine biologist.

If so -- details, please!

I guess that was before he decided to go to electronics engineering (i.e., technician) school.

I have heard that line so often ('I used ot be an evo until I did research') that I typically do not read past the "I used to be an evo..." part.  Each and EVERY time I have heard or read someone make that claim, it has turned out to be completely false.

Joe Gallien was never studying to be anything other than a technician wannabe.

  
keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2009,23:36   

It turns out that Joe was just following Darwin's example when he converted to Islam.

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And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G

Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

  
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2009,15:14   

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Joseph: Would the sketch artist be able to draw something with the input of "father of"? Absolutely not.

Well, knowing the father would certainly narrow the possibilities. Here are two fathers, for instance,





You have to look closely, but I think you should be able to tell the difference.

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damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,07:02   

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Joseph: Would the sketch artist be able to draw something with the input of "father of"? Absolutely not.

Well, knowing the father would certainly narrow the possibilities. Here are two fathers, for instance,





You have to look closely, but I think you should be able to tell the difference.



Yeah, easy.

But what kind of tree is that blue bird at the bottom sittin' on?

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,08:15   

Quote (keiths @ April 26 2009,23:36)
It turns out that Joe was just following Darwin's example when he converted to Islam.

there is some good isht on that page

The Mystery Of The Cattle

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The Cow is a sacred animal in Hinduism…weird?

The Cow is the name of the longest sura ‘chapter’ in the Qur’an…more weird?

The Cow was the first god the monotheist Jews worshipped immediately after leaving Egypt to Sinai…oohh…that is really weird!

Dr Mark Thomas, UCL published a paper in February 2007 revealing for the first time that Europeans developed the gene lactase which produces the enzyme lactase that digests the sugar lactose only 7000 years ago. He concluded that Europeans could not have digested cow’s milk, rich in lactose, before these dates. He assumed that cows must have been introduced to Europe from the Middle East around that time, which must have triggered the evolutionary changes and created the gene lactase…since it is evolutionarily explained, then it is not very weird!

But does Dr Thomas, or any other scientist, have any evidence that there was a single cow on earth before this date?

The general perception amongst evolutionists is that: all species have evolved from one common origin, although there is no concrete evidence that there are no exceptions to this generalisation.

This book proves beyond doubt that the common origin of all species was divinely revealed in all the scriptures, but was ill understood a long time before it reached Darwin . We have identified, within half a square mile, the location where the first ever living cell appeared, as well as identified the exceptions to the earthly evolution.

Camels, cows, sheep and goats were created outside this planet and were brought down to the ape man ‘ Adams ’ after they were converted to intelligent beings. This Extraterrestrial Evolution serves three main purposes:

1. It proves that all living beings on Earth evolved from one cell, the exception being the four ET creatures.

2. The ‘cattle’ civilised the ape man and took him away from hunting wildlife, as they used to do before the conversion. Their presence was a key factor in the psychosocial development of the early intelligent man.

3. The swift integration between the two ‘evolutions’ proves that it is all an Intelligent Divine Design, not spontaneous evolution.



The Mysterious connection of the ‘cattle’ with various religions and their place in the evolution was revealed when the Shajara Code was decoded!


It seems we have a muslim dembski.

weird!

word.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Gunthernacus



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,12:14   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ April 28 2009,09:15)
Quote (keiths @ April 26 2009,23:36)
It turns out that Joe was just following Darwin's example when he converted to Islam.

there is some good isht on that page

The Mystery Of The Cattle

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The Cow is a sacred animal in Hinduism…weird?

The Cow is the name of the longest sura ‘chapter’ in the Qur’an…more weird?

The Cow was the first god the monotheist Jews worshipped immediately after leaving Egypt to Sinai…oohh…that is really weird!

Dr Mark Thomas, UCL published a paper in February 2007 revealing for the first time that Europeans developed the gene lactase which produces the enzyme lactase that digests the sugar lactose only 7000 years ago. He concluded that Europeans could not have digested cow’s milk, rich in lactose, before these dates. He assumed that cows must have been introduced to Europe from the Middle East around that time, which must have triggered the evolutionary changes and created the gene lactase…since it is evolutionarily explained, then it is not very weird!

But does Dr Thomas, or any other scientist, have any evidence that there was a single cow on earth before this date?

The general perception amongst evolutionists is that: all species have evolved from one common origin, although there is no concrete evidence that there are no exceptions to this generalisation.

This book proves beyond doubt that the common origin of all species was divinely revealed in all the scriptures, but was ill understood a long time before it reached Darwin . We have identified, within half a square mile, the location where the first ever living cell appeared, as well as identified the exceptions to the earthly evolution.

Camels, cows, sheep and goats were created outside this planet and were brought down to the ape man ‘ Adams ’ after they were converted to intelligent beings. This Extraterrestrial Evolution serves three main purposes:

1. It proves that all living beings on Earth evolved from one cell, the exception being the four ET creatures.

2. The ‘cattle’ civilised the ape man and took him away from hunting wildlife, as they used to do before the conversion. Their presence was a key factor in the psychosocial development of the early intelligent man.

3. The swift integration between the two ‘evolutions’ proves that it is all an Intelligent Divine Design, not spontaneous evolution.



The Mysterious connection of the ‘cattle’ with various religions and their place in the evolution was revealed when the Shajara Code was decoded!


It seems we have a muslim dembski.

weird!

word.

Holy Cow!

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Given that we are all descended from Adam and Eve...genetic defects as a result of intra-family marriage would not begin to crop up until after the first few dozen generations. - Dr. Hugh Ross

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,16:36   

So the question now is "where's the beef?" Huh.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,21:39   

Guess who's responsible for Hitler? Go on, guess...


https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,11:13   

He's still at it...

https://www.blogger.com/comment....0247410

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,11:25   

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Also there is From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism in Germany (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004), a peer-reviewed scholarly book with 233 pages of text and 808 footnotes.-

I bet every argument you can make is refuted in it.

I will get a copy and let you know.


"This book I haven't read destroys your argument!"

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,11:44   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 29 2009,11:25)
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Also there is From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism in Germany (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004), a peer-reviewed scholarly book with 233 pages of text and 808 footnotes.-

I bet every argument you can make is refuted in it.

I will get a copy and let you know.


"This book I haven't read destroys your argument!"

But, from Behe's devastating trial performance, we know that it is unnecessary to read.  This is seconded by Ftk, so we know it's true.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,11:46   

I wont let facts get in the way of your preconceptions!

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,12:08   

wow.

which one of you guys is joe again

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,12:09   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ April 29 2009,12:08)
wow.

which one of you guys is joe again

based on his latest, Denyse.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,12:13   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 29 2009,12:09)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,April 29 2009,12:08)
wow.

which one of you guys is joe again

based on his latest, Denyse.

bwaaaaaaaaaaa

now joe being a muslim makes sense

watch

obama is a muslim

joe is a muslim

joe is denise

densie is the antichrist

we already knew obama was the antichrist

therefore O'leary is Obama

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2009,11:12   

Unable to come up with even one reason why entertainers are useless, or why he defines entertainers as only actors, Joe has banned me from his blog.  At least, he publishes none of my comments on any thread (entertainment or nested hierarchy).

If he can't even give an example of why he thinks actors are useless (and entertainment more generally), why does he think he can discuss the much more detailed world of biology?

Too funny.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2009,15:40   

Quote (blipey @ April 30 2009,11:12)
Unable to come up with even one reason why entertainers are useless, or why he defines entertainers as only actors, Joe has banned me from his blog.  At least, he publishes none of my comments on any thread (entertainment or nested hierarchy).

If he can't even give an example of why he thinks actors are useless (and entertainment more generally), why does he think he can discuss the much more detailed world of biology?

Too funny.

joe just wants to be ugly.  it is a culture war for him and you are now a symbol of all that is wrong with the enemy.

blipey!  you are now more than the sum of your parts!

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Dazza McTrazza



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2009,16:44   

JoeTard teaches Rich a little something about skepticism:

   
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Rich Hughes said...
Joe, did you go to the URL? all the quotes are from a primary source: Hitler.


   
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Joe G said...
Yes I went to the link.

And yes those quotes are ALLEGEDLY from Hitler.


   
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Rich Hughes said...
"And yes those quotes are ALLEGEDLY from Hitler."

They're from 'mein kampf' and noted speaches he gave. Is there no limit to your denialsim?


If you have trouble convincing someone that excerpts from Mein Kampf can be accurately attributed to Hitler, you might be fighting a losing battle...

  
Dazza McTrazza



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2009,16:51   

Sorry forgot linky

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2009,13:27   

https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1


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blipey,

Seeing that you are reading this-

I have told you what you have to do in order for your comments to be posted.

You keep refusing to do it.

That means you are an asshole and you are being dealt with in that light.

Ya see clownie your first posts on my blog you tried to accuse me of a sentence splice.

Once I proved the splice was all in your little-bitty head you disappeared only to come back to make another series of unsupported claims and false accusations.

Now in this case you can't even understand the basics of the English language.

There isn't any dealing with people like you.

Not on blogs anyway.

So please inform me of when you are back in this area, when and where you will be performing.

We can finish all of this "discussion" then.

9:11 PM


Why is "discussion" in quotes?

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2009,18:16   

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Why is "discussion" in quotes?


Because it's scary?

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 19 2009,02:01   

oi. Didn't this stuff all go away after Dover?

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 19 2009,22:36   

blipey Joe wants to mate with you and test your offspring

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As for clownie I am finished trying to have a discussion with it.

So if it has something to say to me it can do so face to face.

We can then run a simple test of natural selection.

7:39 AM


by the way joe has started a new blog that contains all his best ideas

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: May 20 2009,15:49   

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blipey Joe wants to mate with you and test your offspring

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As for clownie I am finished trying to have a discussion with it.

So if it has something to say to me it can do so face to face.

We can then run a simple test of natural selection.

7:39 AM


by the way joe has started a new blog that contains all his best ideas

That's certainly not ALL of them?

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 20 2009,17:18   

Quote (blipey @ May 20 2009,16:49)
 
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blipey Joe wants to mate with you and test your offspring

   
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As for clownie I am finished trying to have a discussion with it.

So if it has something to say to me it can do so face to face.

We can then run a simple test of natural selection.

7:39 AM


by the way joe has started a new blog that contains all his best ideas

That's certainly not ALL of them?

Of course not.  Just the good ones.

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