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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,07:14   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 06 2008,11:52)
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 06 2008,04:20)
Who could hate you RTH? To know you is to love you. Frankly your 1000th post alone is worth a beer should we ever be similarly geographicalised. Maybe even two beers (never let it be said that I am ungenerous).

Now come here big guy and give me a hug.

HAR HAR THIS IS YOU


Having surveyed ICHCB this lunchtime I was wondering how long it would take that gem to turn up.

Well done Carlson! You are very quick off the mark.....as your inflatable companion is no doubt aware.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,07:21   

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In regard to divorce, it has become almost an epidemic.  People divorce their spouses for any number of insignificant reasons.  I can certainly understand divorcing someone for infidelity, abandonment or abuse, but the problem is that infidelity is almost a way of life these days.  It’s wrong, and it’s harmful to our children.

And who gets divorced more - Christians or non?  Conservatives or Liberals?  Red staters or blue?

Hint:  Who has been divorced more, Rush Limbaugh or John Kerry?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,07:25   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 06 2008,05:20)
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Does everyone hate me for starting this thread?  ???

No, wait, yes, wait, what was the question?

Who could hate you RTH? To know you is to love you. Frankly your 1000th post alone is worth a beer should we ever be similarly geographicalised. Maybe even two beers (never let it be said that I am ungenerous).

Now come here big guy and give me a hug.

Louis

P.S. We only hate you for being devilishly handsome, like that DaveTard bloke, and for stealing FTK away.

I think it's safe to say that many of us have a love/hate relationship with this thread.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,07:26   

Quote (slpage @ Feb. 06 2008,08:21)
Quote (Ftk @ Feb. 03 2008,21:31)
In regard to divorce, it has become almost an epidemic.  People divorce their spouses for any number of insignificant reasons.  I can certainly understand divorcing someone for infidelity, abandonment or abuse, but the problem is that infidelity is almost a way of life these days.  It’s wrong, and it’s harmful to our children.

And who gets divorced more - Christians or non?  Conservatives or Liberals?  Red staters or blue?

Hint:  Who has been divorced more, Rush Limbaugh or John Kerry?

The presumption being that divorce is an inherently bad thing.

I'd take issue with that.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,07:39   



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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,08:37   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 06 2008,13:25)
I think it's safe to say that many of us have a love/hate relationship with this thread.

Love? Nah. Hate? Nah. Frustration, annoyance and general irritation? Hells yeah!

Hate, like fear, is part of the root cause of the problems exhibited by FTK and her ilk. It's pitiable really and certainly nothing worth emulating.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,08:47   

FtK bounced my response to middle-aged-guy complaining about creationists being called ignorant.

See, creationists are ignorant, by the OED-definition of the word, in that they don't know about the topics that they speak on. Evidently, this is not an allowable comment in FtK-land.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,08:49   

Quote (Annyday @ Feb. 06 2008,09:47)
FtK bounced my response to middle-aged-guy complaining about creationists being called ignorant.

See, creationists are ignorant, by the OED-definition of the word, in that they don't know about the topics that they speak on. Evidently, this is not an allowable comment in FtK-land.

There is ignorance, and then there is willful ignorance.

ETA:  One is an honest and correctable condition.  The other is what afflicts Ftk.

Edited by Lou FCD on Feb. 06 2008,09:51

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:28   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 06 2008,07:49)
Quote (Annyday @ Feb. 06 2008,09:47)
FtK bounced my response to middle-aged-guy complaining about creationists being called ignorant.

See, creationists are ignorant, by the OED-definition of the word, in that they don't know about the topics that they speak on. Evidently, this is not an allowable comment in FtK-land.

There is ignorance, and then there is willful ignorance.

ETA:  One is an honest and correctable condition.  The other is what afflicts Ftk.

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According to the book, The Creationist Movement in Modern America, the psychology of creationists is very different from that of evolutionists (Eve and Harrold 1991). The authors say that creationists tend to perceive the world through the filter of their religious beliefs, and they differ from their opponents in "their most profound understandings of reality, religion, American society, and the nature of the scientific enterprise" (pp. 67).

Link

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,23:38   

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have you checked out what Joe is saying now?

He's come out and said that anything with a calculated CSI value of 1 is designed.  On the same thread he also said the threshold for some obscure term he won't define is 500.

It's SO sciency!  You'll probably swoon if you go take a look.  Very Alpha male.

Do you think he ought to run those numbers by Dembski?  Or, should the IDers just go with Joe's back of the napkin stuff?

My latest completely off topic comment on Ftk's Joe Gallien thread.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,23:44   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 06 2008,04:20)
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Does everyone hate me for starting this thread?  ???

No, wait, yes, wait, what was the question?

Who could hate you RTH? To know you is to love you. Frankly your 1000th post alone is worth a beer should we ever be similarly geographicalised. Maybe even two beers (never let it be said that I am ungenerous).

Now come here big guy and give me a hug.

Louis

P.S. We only hate you for being devilishly handsome, like that DaveTard bloke, and for stealing FTK away.

Cheers Louis! 'preciate it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,15:46   

Ftk is a bit of a misogynist. Who knew?

Quoted in entirety, because every single line is equally terrible and deserves to be saved forever.

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I watched the premier of "Lipstick Jungle" last night. It looks like another one of those flicks where the power hungry liberated women do anything necessary to decimate their male counterparts. Shoot, the men these days might as well sit back and let the women take over...heck, we'll probably even elect a woman President come November.

Here's a Salvo aricle on the media's attack on masculinity.

I don't know...maybe the average man just doesn't care about wearing the pants in the family anymore...perhaps strong women turn them on, and they don't have a problem living with a dominant woman. Maybe in a couple decades or so, we'll have a bunch of stay home Dads, or worse yet, maybe men will just evolve themselves out of existence!


Oh, shit! Non-servile women! Call the press!

Actually, it's something weird. I generally think the US of A (slash world) right now is more sexist than it is racist, but a majority chunk of the anti-Hillary sexism (and if FtK's post isn't that, I don't know what is) I've seen this election cycle is actually from deeply religious women. I'm running on a small sample (ie personal experience), but I think it's a genuine effect. However, what it actually represents, I suspect, is that women feel they have more of a free social pass to be cunts about other women, whereas men are more likely to actually be challenged. For instance, the sentence preceding this one would have been slightly less offensive if I were female.

... I also happen to hate Hillary as a politician and the feminist movement's current fawning over her, but that's a separate issue. I should stick to commenting on one Hillary-related phenomenon at a time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,15:49   

Quote (Annyday @ Feb. 08 2008,15:46)
Ftk is a bit of a misogynist. Who knew?

Quoted in entirety, because every single line is equally terrible and deserves to be saved forever.

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I watched the premier of "Lipstick Jungle" last night. It looks like another one of those flicks where the power hungry liberated women do anything necessary to decimate their male counterparts. Shoot, the men these days might as well sit back and let the women take over...heck, we'll probably even elect a woman President come November.

Here's a Salvo aricle on the media's attack on masculinity.

I don't know...maybe the average man just doesn't care about wearing the pants in the family anymore...perhaps strong women turn them on, and they don't have a problem living with a dominant woman. Maybe in a couple decades or so, we'll have a bunch of stay home Dads, or worse yet, maybe men will just evolve themselves out of existence!


Oh, shit! Non-servile women! Call the press!

Actually, it's something weird. I generally think the US of A (slash world) right now is more sexist than it is racist, but a majority chunk of the anti-Hillary sexism (and if FtK's post isn't that, I don't know what is) I've seen this election cycle is actually from deeply religious women. I'm running on a small sample (ie personal experience), but I think it's a genuine effect. However, what it actually represents, I suspect, is that women feel they have more of a free social pass to be cunts about other women, whereas men are more likely to actually be challenged. For instance, the sentence preceding this one would have been slightly less offensive if I were female.

... I also happen to hate Hillary as a politician and the feminist movement's current fawning over her, but that's a separate issue. I should stick to commenting on one Hillary-related phenomenon at a time.

In other news, Negroes have been seen with the white women.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,16:21   

Quote (Annyday @ Feb. 08 2008,14:46)
Ftk is a bit of a misogynist. Who knew?

Quoted in entirety, because every single line is equally terrible and deserves to be saved forever.

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I watched the premier of "Lipstick Jungle" last night. It looks like another one of those flicks where the power hungry liberated women do anything necessary to decimate their male counterparts. Shoot, the men these days might as well sit back and let the women take over...heck, we'll probably even elect a woman President come November.

Here's a Salvo aricle on the media's attack on masculinity.

I don't know...maybe the average man just doesn't care about wearing the pants in the family anymore...perhaps strong women turn them on, and they don't have a problem living with a dominant woman. Maybe in a couple decades or so, we'll have a bunch of stay home Dads, or worse yet, maybe men will just evolve themselves out of existence!


Oh, shit! Non-servile women! Call the press!

Actually, it's something weird. I generally think the US of A (slash world) right now is more sexist than it is racist, but a majority chunk of the anti-Hillary sexism (and if FtK's post isn't that, I don't know what is) I've seen this election cycle is actually from deeply religious women. I'm running on a small sample (ie personal experience), but I think it's a genuine effect. However, what it actually represents, I suspect, is that women feel they have more of a free social pass to be cunts about other women, whereas men are more likely to actually be challenged. For instance, the sentence preceding this one would have been slightly less offensive if I were female.

... I also happen to hate Hillary as a politician and the feminist movement's current fawning over her, but that's a separate issue. I should stick to commenting on one Hillary-related phenomenon at a time.

You mean you don’t remember all that “She’s First Lady but not acting like a lady,” yawping from the Right during Billy’s first term?

I’ve known a number of stay-at-home dads. They’re nothing to be frightened of – no more than those male penguins in March of the Penguins guarding the egg which, as I recall, some ID folks took as evidence of “design.” ;)

That said, there is the type of woman who overcompensates and is too aggressive, and thatt comes out in Hellary’s voice. “I do not have good relations” with that type, and I don’t want to spend the next 4 or 8 years listening to her (please no). Yes, some women who sport “Hillary” stickers conform to a certain stereotype and I confess I snicker about it. But she’s irritating for the same reason that it’s irritating in a man – loud, searing voice that reminds me of a table saw. (Rev. Barky mutes the radio when she comes on and does a good imitation of her.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,16:31   

Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 08 2008,14:21)
You mean you don’t remember all that “She’s First Lady but not acting like a lady,” yawping from the Right during Billy’s first term?

I’ve known a number of stay-at-home dads. They’re nothing to be frightened of – no more than those male penguins in March of the Penguins guarding the egg which, as I recall, some ID folks took as evidence of “design.” ;)

That said, there is the type of woman who overcompensates and is too aggressive, and thatt comes out in Hellary’s voice. “I do not have good relations” with that type, and I don’t want to spend the next 4 or 8 years listening to her (please no). Yes, some women who sport “Hillary” stickers conform to a certain stereotype and I confess I snicker about it. But she’s irritating for the same reason that it’s irritating in a man – loud, searing voice that reminds me of a table saw. (Rev. Barky mutes the radio when she comes on and does a good imitation of her.)

I beg to differ, Kristine.  I was a stay-at-home dad for a while, and I'm pretty frightening*.  

On the subject of Clinton: she lost my respect with her "you're just picking on me because I'm a girl" stunt in one of the early debates.  If that's what she thought, she should have kicked them in the goolies.




*  If my wife says it's OK.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,16:40   

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According to the book, The Creationist Movement in Modern America, the psychology of creationists is very different from that of evolutionists (Eve and Harrold 1991). The authors say that creationists tend to perceive the world through the filter of their religious beliefs, and they differ from their opponents in "their most profound understandings of reality, religion, American society, and the nature of the scientific enterprise" (pp. 67).

Link

That article begins with a creepy Salvadoresque quote from Martin Luther:
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What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church...a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,17:25   

On behalf of stay at home Dads everywhere, let me just say that Ftk can go piss in her hat and wear it.

I have two kids, I don't need or want my wife to be a third.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2008,18:12   

We have a new tool here at AtBC, for which I am eternally grateful to Wesley.

I call it AutoFlush.



ETA:  Guess who got to take it out for its first spin?

Edited by Lou FCD on Feb. 08 2008,19:38

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,06:02   



January? Pssst. Ftk...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,06:49   

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January? Pssst. Ftk...

Well, perhaps it is January in 1508, there's been alot of changes over time to the start of the year etc, and 1508 is around where FTK gets her science news from...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,07:27   

[quote=Kristine,Feb. 08 2008,16:21][quote=Annyday,Feb. 08 2008,14:46]
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That said, there is the type of woman who overcompensates and is too aggressive, and thatt comes out in Hellary’s voice. “I do not have good relations” with that type, and I don’t want to spend the next 4 or 8 years listening to her (please no). Yes, some women who sport “Hillary” stickers conform to a certain stereotype and I confess I snicker about it. But she’s irritating for the same reason that it’s irritating in a man – loud, searing voice that reminds me of a table saw. (Rev. Barky mutes the radio when she comes on and does a good imitation of her.)

Hillary's the closest thing this country's got to Margaret Thatcher and, if you ask me, the Washington fat-cats could use a good dose of 'hand-bagging'.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,09:00   



Umm...FTK.

"Bird to Dino" is BS.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,10:27   

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Fishing,
Beautiful day,
Sunshine drenching my skin,
Water moves by and by,
Silver waves ripple.


Haiku?  Um...Ftk?

I understand why you're so anti-Education now.  If that's what  your son believes an haiku is, he's getting screwed.

Which brings me to my second point.  Your son thought it sounded gay?  You don't see that as discriminatory in any way?  Just a phrase to be laughed at?  You don't see his attitude as dismissive to any person, subject matter, profession, etc.  Good thing he's not going to do anything artistic in his life, right?

All about creating well-rounded kids, aren't we?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,10:46   

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Fishing,
Beautiful day,
Sunshine drenching my skin,
Water moves by and by,
Silver waves ripple.


Haiku?  Um...Ftk?

I understand why you're so anti-Education now.  If that's what  your son believes an haiku is, he's getting screwed.

Which brings me to my second point.  Your son thought it sounded gay?  You don't see that as discriminatory in any way?  Just a phrase to be laughed at?  You don't see his attitude as dismissive to any person, subject matter, profession, etc.  Good thing he's not going to do anything artistic in his life, right?

All about creating well-rounded kids, aren't we?

Perhaps the 17 syllable rule is "only a theory" in Kansas.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,10:49   

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[quote=Kristine,Feb. 08 2008,16:21][quote=Annyday,Feb. 08 2008,14:46]  
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That said, there is the type of woman who overcompensates and is too aggressive, and thatt comes out in Hellary’s voice. “I do not have good relations” with that type, and I don’t want to spend the next 4 or 8 years listening to her (please no). Yes, some women who sport “Hillary” stickers conform to a certain stereotype and I confess I snicker about it. But she’s irritating for the same reason that it’s irritating in a man – loud, searing voice that reminds me of a table saw. (Rev. Barky mutes the radio when she comes on and does a good imitation of her.)

Hillary's the closest thing this country's got to Margaret Thatcher and, if you ask me, the Washington fat-cats could use a good dose of 'hand-bagging'.

Dear lord you can't actually WANT a Thatcher can you? She pushed the UK to the brink of utter collapse!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,11:10   

After noticing that the photo to illustrate her haiku post still has a watermark, I couldn't help wondering if she stole the heron photo for the birds-to-dino post. The image on her web page links to sciencedaily's image. Sciencedaily credits iStockphoto who sell images.

Yup. Looks to me like she stole the photo. Why am I not surprised?

Edit to clarify.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,11:21   

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After noticing that the photo to illustrate her haiku post still has a watermark, I couldn't help wondering if she stole the heron photo for the birds-to-dino post. The image on her web page links to sciencedaily's image. Sciencedaily credits iStockphoto who sell images.

Yup. Looks to me like she stole the photo. Why am I not surprised?

Edit to clarify.

Casey-Luskin-Wannabe.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,11:21   

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Dear lord you can't actually WANT a Thatcher can you? She pushed the UK to the brink of utter collapse!

She also turned it into a much less caring society.

Her reputation seems to be a lot better outside the UK than it is within the country. Near the end of her reign I was travelling on a train. I had shared one or two pleasantries with the man next to me but we hadn't said much until the train stopped in Grantham. There he turned to me and said 'This is where that woman comes from, you know.' I did indeed.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,11:25   




I don't know why FtK has a problem with the Bird-to-Dino thing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,12:13   

Quote (Richard Simons @ Feb. 09 2008,11:10)
After noticing that the photo to illustrate her haiku post still has a watermark, I couldn't help wondering if she stole the heron photo for the birds-to-dino post. The image on her web page links to sciencedaily's image. Sciencedaily credits iStockphoto who sell images.

Yup. Looks to me like she stole the photo. Why am I not surprised?

Yep. To buy a photo from the site where she grabbed the man-and-son-fishing image (dreamstime.com), she'd have to pay a buck or so. Then she could get the non-watermarked version, and apparently use it forever, according to their policies. The site does have some free images, but that isn't one of them.

It's even worse for the ScienceDaily photo. She linked to it, but apparently didn't bother to read the fine print (what a surprise!). On the ScienceDaily site it is captioned "Credit: iStockphoto/Jason Lugo". And the terms of use document for Science Daily reads, in part    
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Use of Images

ScienceDaily’s policy uses both internally and externally produced images on its Sites, only with permission of the copyright holder. If you believe material to which you have rights has been improperly included, please provide the URL and a short description to  HYPERLINK "mailto:.com" .com, with ‘copyright question’ in the subject line.

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Coming on the heels of the adventures of WAD and Luskin re copyrights and usage of materials found on the internet, this is just plain scary. But not surprising...

I wonder if Luskin's law license allows him to practice in Kansas; maybe he can defend her if ScienceDaily gets too uppity about their copyright policy.

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
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