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carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,10:18    Quote (stevestory @ May 13 2007,09:40) Granville Sewell is a tard     Quote This makes me very, very angry. And you won't like Granville Sewell when he's angry... Indeed, he might use his Pew-36 explosive space modulator on you. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,10:26    Quote (N.Wells @ May 13 2007,09:44) From Borne, at http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....toronto [quote] Exactly what the Hegelian dialectic requires of them In case no one noticed, the reference to "Hegelian dialectics" is this Tard's way of calling us all Communists. I am, of course, quite sure that the Tard has no clue at all what "Hegelian dialectics" actually means -- it's just another pejoritive that he brainlessly tosses out at people he doesn't like, just like "Darwinist" and "materialist". -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,10:36    OK, OK, any more and I'm guilty of milking it. But how often does one really get to adjust Dave's head? So I couldn't resist. Plus I returned The Big Head's microphone.   -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,17:20    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 13 2007,10:36) OK, OK, any more and I'm guilty of milking it. But how often does one really get to adjust Dave's head? So I couldn't resist. Plus I returned The Big Head's microphone.   It needs "addicted to tard" across the bottom,or maybe AUTODICTOR 2 TARD. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

dhogaza Posts: 525 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,20:23    Oh-oh, those evil people denying Gonzalez tenure are in deep doo-doo now.  Davetard's riding to the rescue! Quote I’m here to tell you sir when the good people of Iowa find out their children are going to a state university where atheists are made professors of religious studies, while a Christian astronomer is being shown the door for having the temerity to publish good science that reasonably suggests the earth is a rare and special planet, heads are going to roll. Actually it's far more likely that eyes are going to roll in disbelief at Davetard's tardicity.

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,20:24    Quote (dhogaza @ May 13 2007,20:23) Oh-oh, those evil people denying Gonzalez tenure are in deep doo-doo now.  Davetard's riding to the rescue!   Quote I’m here to tell you sir when the good people of Iowa find out their children are going to a state university where atheists are made professors of religious studies, while a Christian astronomer is being shown the door for having the temerity to publish good science that reasonably suggests the earth is a rare and special planet, heads are going to roll. Actually it's far more likely that eyes are going to roll in disbelief at Davetard's tardicity. Well, if DaveTard were important enough for them to know who the hell he is. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,20:47    Quote (dhogaza @ May 13 2007,20:23) Oh-oh, those evil people denying Gonzalez tenure are in deep doo-doo now.  Davetard's riding to the rescue!   Quote I’m here to tell you sir when the good people of Iowa find out their children are going to a state university where atheists are made professors of religious studies, while a Christian astronomer is being shown the door for having the temerity to publish good science that reasonably suggests the earth is a rare and special planet, heads are going to roll. Actually it's far more likely that eyes are going to roll in disbelief at Davetard's tardicity. I, of course, strongly encourage every UD-er to write as many emails as possible to as many officials as possible decrying the situation. Please. Pretty please. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,20:51    Ditto what Lenny said. The Tard is strong with us; it is our finest weapon.  Damn cheap as well, gotta like that. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,21:16    Quote (Richardthughes @ May 13 2007,17:20) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 13 2007,10:36) OK, OK, any more and I'm guilty of milking it. But how often does one really get to adjust Dave's head? So I couldn't resist. Plus I returned The Big Head's microphone.   It needs "addicted to tard" across the bottom,or maybe AUTODICTOR 2 TARD. There it is. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,22:16    Beauty-full! Also, you can tell who the designer is.... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

dhogaza Posts: 525 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,23:45    Quote Well, if DaveTard were important enough for them to know who the hell he is. Oh, I think they can eye-roll at his tardicity without realizing who he is, don't you? Though it might not be as pleasurable an eye-roll if they don't, of course. :)

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,23:53    Quote (dhogaza @ May 13 2007,20:23) Oh-oh, those evil people denying Gonzalez tenure are in deep doo-doo now.  Davetard's riding to the rescue!     Quote I’m here to tell you sir when the good people of Iowa find out their children are going to a state university where atheists are made professors of religious studies, while a Christian astronomer is being shown the door for having the temerity to publish good science that reasonably suggests the earth is a rare and special planet, heads are going to roll. What, is he heading up to Iowa with his special Texas brush-clearing chainsaw? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,06:30    An earlier draft of Dave's letter vis Gonzalez:   Quote Dear Sir, I am writing to express my displeasure at the treatment of a fine astronomer whose work is featured in the astrobiology section of Nasa’s website, made the cover of Scientific American, and can be found in many other fine peer reviewed and popular scientific publications. Some of the most enjoyable and intriguing reading on the question of life in the universe has been about “The Galactic Habitable Zone”, a phrase Prof. Gonzalez coined which is now common in the astrobiology and astrophysics community. Everyone who knows anything about this case realizes Gonzalez is being denied tenure because his work “The Privileged Planet” has become a popular banner for creationists and intelligent design proponents. What was Gonzalez supposed to do, suppress his research and opinions because the “wrong people” might use it for an “unscientific” agenda? One goes where the evidence leads and that’s all Professor Gonzalez has done. I haven't had to face not drinking a lot of beer in the summer but with the houseboat gone the temptation and convenience is greatly reduced. Now a day at the lake generally means driving home at sunset whereas before it just meant hours more partying after dark on the boat and crashing there. I still have a small RV out there with a fridge in it but it's pretty cramped and even worse I cancelled cable TV and internet service at the lake so I don't use it much for overnighting. So now I've got nothing to do and I'm white knuckling this summer. I suggest you rethink your decision and do the right thing before the parents of Iowa students get wind of it. It’s not too late… yet.   Sincerely, David Springer Austin, TX He reused some of the above here. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,12:45    I went to a talk today about systems biology, which mentioned the No Free Lunch theorems.  Somewhat surprisingly, Dembski was not brought up at all. Bob -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,12:49    Larry Fafarman says Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,13:13    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,12:49) Larry Fafarman says   Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? None of his published papers had anything to do with ID? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,13:28    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:13) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,12:49) Larry Fafarman says   Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? None of his published papers had anything to do with ID? Also, is that the correct number of papers?  I thought I saw the number 55 bandied about somewhere... (Not that it makes a huge difference I guess, since the number of published papers is probably not an automatic guarantee of tenure...) -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,13:35    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:13) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,12:49) Larry Fafarman says     Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? None of his published papers had anything to do with ID? yeah, that's what I had. What do we win?  :D -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,14:02    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:28)   Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:13)   Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,12:49) Larry Fafarman says       Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? None of his published papers had anything to do with ID? Also, is that the correct number of papers?  I thought I saw the number 55 bandied about somewhere... (Not that it makes a huge difference I guess, since the number of published papers is probably not an automatic guarantee of tenure...) Well, I looked up Gonzalez' published record in Web of Science, at least what pops up with Iowa State and Gonzalez, G* First of all it doesn't matter how many papers you SUBMIT. What matters is number of papers published since you came to the University, and their quality. The record is poor. In reverse chronological order are: Author(s): Vanture AD (Vanture, Andrew D.), Smith VV (Smith, Verne V.), Lutz J (Lutz, Julie), Wallerstein G (Wallerstein, George), Lambert D (Lambert, David), Gonzalez G (Gonzalez, Guillermo) Source: PUBLICATIONS OF THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE PACIFIC 119 (852): 147-155 FEB 2007 With a many author paper the question always is: what was his contribution? Gonzalez G The chemical compositions of stars with planets: A review PUBLICATIONS OF THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE PACIFIC 118 (849): 1494-1505 NOV 2006 Tautvaisiene G, Wallerstein G, Geisler D, et al. Chemical abundances in the Sagittarius galaxy: Terzan 7 IAU SYMPOSIA 13: 210-210 2005 One page abstract - hmm. Gonzalez G Indium abundance trends among sun-like stars MONTHLY NOTICES OF THE ROYAL ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY 371 (2): 781-785 SEP 11 2006 Gonzalez G Condensation temperature trends among stars with planets MONTHLY NOTICES OF THE ROYAL ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY 367 (1): L37-L41 MAR 21 2006 First paper to have been cited - 5 times! Gonzalez G Habitable zones in the universe ORIGINS OF LIFE AND EVOLUTION OF THE BIOSPHERE 35 (6): 555-606 DEC 2005 out of his field Gonzalez G Misrepresenting intelligent design SCIENTIST 19 (16): 8-8 AUG 29 2005 ROTFL! Giridhar S, Lambert DL, Reddy BE, et al. Abundance analyses of field RV Tauri stars. VI. An extended sample ASTROPHYSICAL JOURNAL 627 (1): 432-445 Part 1 JUL 1 2005 First journal of quality, an excellent journal, again what did Gonzalez contribute? Geisler D, Smith VV, Wallerstein G, et al. "Sculptor-ing'' the galaxy? The chemical compositions of red giants in the Sculptor dwarf spheroidal galaxy ASTRONOMICAL JOURNAL 129 (3): 1428-1442 MAR 2005 Probably another fine paper. Laws C, Gonzalez G A reevaluation of the super-lithium-rich star in NGC 6633 ASTROPHYSICAL JOURNAL 595 (2): 1148-1153 Part 1 OCT 1 2003 and Laws C, Gonzalez G, Walker KM, et al. Parent stars of extrasolar planets. VII. New abundance analyses of 30 systems ASTRONOMICAL JOURNAL 125 (5): 2664-2677 MAY 2003 and Wells LE, Armstrong JC, Gonzalez G Reseeding of early Earth by impacts of returning ejecta during the late heavy bombardment ICARUS 162 (1): 38-46 MAR 2003 PhD work? Gonzalez G Colloquium: Stars, planets, and metals REVIEWS OF MODERN PHYSICS 75 (1): 101-120 JAN 2003 Candia P, Krisciunas K, Suntzeff NB, et al. Optical and infrared photometry of the unusual Type Ia supernova 2000cx PUBLICATIONS OF THE ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY OF THE PACIFIC 115 (805): 277-294 MAR 2003 Armstrong JC, Wells LE, Gonzalez G Rummaging through Earth's attic for remains of ancient life ICARUS 160 (1): 183-196 NOV 2002 Reddy BE, Lambert DL, Laws C, et al. A search for Li-6 in stars with planets MONTHLY NOTICES OF THE ROYAL ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY 335 (4): 1005-1016 OCT 1 2002 Gonzalez G, Brownlee D, Ward PD Refugees for life in a hostile universe SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN 285 (4): 60-67 OCT 2001 Total of 18, of which a number would be PhD and post-doc work, some not peer reviewed, some abstracts, some reviews. -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,14:16    This discussion probably would work better in the actual Gonzalez thread... -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,14:51    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,13:35)     Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:13)       Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 14 2007,12:49) Larry Fafarman says         Quote It is ironic that after making such a fetish over “peer review” in falsely claiming that there are no peer-reviewed papers about intelligent design, the hypocritical Darwinists would urge the denial of tenure to a pro-ID professor whose number of peer-reviewed papers — 68 — vastly exceeds his university’s benchmark of 15 peer-reviewed papers normally expected of candidates for tenure. Can anybody spot his deliberate error? None of his published papers had anything to do with ID? yeah, that's what I had. What do we win?  :D But it's always so much fun playing the "WTF Was Larry Thinking?" game because you're never sure how much of what he says is deliberate misrepresentation and how much is because he's just completely off his nut.   Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ May 14 2007,14:02) Well, I looked up Gonzalez' published record in Web of Science, at least what pops up with Iowa State and Gonzalez, G* First of all it doesn't matter how many papers you SUBMIT. What matters is number of papers published since you came to the University, and their quality. The record is poor. In reverse chronological order are: (paper, paper, pretendpaper, maybeapaper, couldbeapaper, paperheprollyhadlittletodowith, paper, yourekiddinright? blah blah) Total of 18, of which a number would be PhD and post-doc work, some not peer reviewed, some abstracts, some reviews. Whoa, way more effort than I was willing to put into it - kudos!   Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 14 2007,14:16) This discussion probably would work better in the actual Gonzalez thread... Yeah, probably, but sometimes I just gotta break the rules. :) -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,17:39    I'm really surprised that UD did not do a post about the Ray Comfort - Kirk Cameron debate where Comfort claimed he would provide undeniable scientific proof of God's existence without using faith or the Bible. Here are his opponent's take on the matter. Of course they claim victory. http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum....653 I can't find Ray Comfort's claim of victory anywhere. But on his main website, there is a banner that reads "Welcome Nightline Debate viewers." When you click it, it tries to sell you books and DVDs. Classy. http://www.livingwaters.com/ I hope Dembski posts about this soon. I'm just curious about his take on the whole affair. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,18:34    Quote Comfort claimed he would provide undeniable scientific proof of God's existence without using faith or the Bible. Wow.  After watching that I don't think that I'd count on Comfort to be able to prove the existence of the steak I have on the grill right now. Not to mention the great skills of rebuttal that he and Cameron command.  My favorite moment was when Bashir asked if the had any comments to the 1st Law of Thermo argument.  And really, the way it was presented in the video there were many possible responses.  The blank stares and then Cameron's soft, "No" are fabulous. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 14 2007,21:33    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 14 2007,13:28) (Not that it makes a huge difference I guess, since the number of published papers is probably not an automatic guarantee of tenure...) The winning argument with my tenure commitee with the Medical College of Georgia was that I had consitantly brought in more money from grants and contracts than the bastards paid me.   However, that same fact did not even produce a raise at another college and I quit the at very same meeting. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,00:35    (Edited: I'm moving my post over to the Gonzalez tenure thread. Sorry.)

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,03:08    Dumbski gets it wrong! And I have to wonder why he admits it? Could it be that he realises how absurd it would have looked for him to be attacking Dawkins when his record of peer-review is, erm, what would be a polite way to put this? Differently abled to that of Dawkins.... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,05:52    Quote ...However much I may despise what Dawkins stands for, my initial impulse to believe the worst about the man with regard to his publication record was wrong. This is an admission of more than WAD intends, as well as less. It is not simply that the publication numbers were in reality very different than WAD's post stated, and he was wrong in that sense. WAD's "initial impulse to believe the worst about the man" and act ('publish' his attack) bereft of facts was wrong, and reflected patent bias, whether or not the specific numbers were correct. Hence WAD admits more than he intends when he discloses the degree to which his angry emotionality governs and biases his posts, and his publications. And he concedes rather less, because the implication of his admission is that had the numbers been correct, his behavior (posting on the basis of his petulant resentment without checking the facts) would have been justified.   The fact is that a great deal of what WAD states and publishes is, to a degree that is obvious to anyone standing outside his immediate circle, distorted by the same emotionality and sense of righteousness, although in most instances he appears to remain unaware the operation of his biases. So it never seems to occur to WAD that his perception of what Dawkins "stands for," which appears to engender in him so much hatred, may be equally distorted.   WAD: Whatever else Dawkins represents, not all of which I admire, he clearly does first and foremost work to "get it right."  I can't say the same for you or, by extension, the ID and creationist communities, which are more characterized by deliberate dishonesty than any intent to get it right. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

CCP Posts: 25 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,09:30    a) Dawkins does not have a scientific research position, nor has he in a long time--he sits in an endowed chair for the promotion of public understanding of science, so popular books ARE his job. b) Before the chair was endowed for his ass, he was in fact a respected and wellpublished behavioral ecologist, though he did more theory than empirical work. c) The list provided by Jehu includes mostly non-peer-reviewed stuff...these guys don't even know the difference. d) If you check out the "top ten" list Dembski supplies, you'll find that the higher pub numbers are clearly influenced by another prolific R. Dawkins who does molecular immunology. (don't tell Bill)

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,09:51    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 15 2007,03:08) Dumbski gets it wrong! And I have to wonder why he admits it? Could it be that he realises how absurd it would have looked for him to be attacking Dawkins when his record of peer-review is, erm, what would be a polite way to put this? Differently abled to that of Dawkins.... Good thing you saved this!  It has been Poofed to Oblivion!  Jeez - maybe they could start a letter-writing campaign over at UD to complain and whine about censorship of ID. Too bad FTK is not with us to comment on it... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2007,12:00    Quote (J-Dog @ May 15 2007,09:51)   Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 15 2007,03:08) Dumbski gets it wrong! And I have to wonder why he admits it? Could it be that he realises how absurd it would have looked for him to be attacking Dawkins when his record of peer-review is, erm, what would be a polite way to put this? Differently abled to that of Dawkins.... Good thing you saved this!  It has been Poofed to Oblivion!  Jeez - maybe they could start a letter-writing campaign over at UD to complain and whine about censorship of ID. Too bad FTK is not with us to comment on it... Oh, the Irony!  After not doing his homework on Dawkins, then deleting the post, comes: 15 May 2007 John Derbyshire: “I will not do my homework!” William Dembski -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

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