Annyday
Posts: 583 Joined: Nov. 2007
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Quote | johnnyb: Oh great. That’s just what we need - Darwinism to be the official rule book for analyzing the genome. |
Hahahahahah.
Oh man. He's ... what, at least fifty years late? Evolution has been the "official rule book", that is, the underlying hypothesis, of molecular biology from the start. Hell, evolution was the "official rule book" for analyzing the genome while we were trying to figure out what DNA even was. Evolution, unsurprisingly, has helped us a whole hell of a lot in genetics!
But no- just now, right now, evolution is unjustly invading molecular biology! Worse- it's stifling research by suggesting to some researchers that we should narrow our focus! Oh, the humanity! This virgin biological science is being invaded by Darwinism!
In the same thread:
Quote | DLH: Design Principles: An Intelligent Designer will likely combine robust design with efficient design. |
What? Seriously? That's their principle? "Robust" and "efficient" design, as measured by nothing in particular?
There's also real predictions attached to it, even if they're not grounded in any sane way! These five thousand orphan genes I've never heard of must be good for something! As one contributor puts it:
Quote | Mapou: Interesting. ID science is turning out to be as exciting as any other. A treasure hunt it is! There’s designer gold in them thar hills. |
I have a beautiful visualization of a man panning for gold while rambling that since the hills were "designed", there should "obviously" be gold in these particular ones, because he's detected specified complexity in them. Mapou, if you're one of us church-burners, I salute you.
Too bad they'll never actually test it. All those Biologic Institute scientists, just sitting around doing nothing.
It gets even better:
Quote | johnnyb: ... I think we’ll find that the cause for an ORFan is not necessarily special consideration, but rather that the genome itself is smart enough to produce and deploy proteins as it needs them. In addition, we’ll find a modular area in the genome for deploying these newly-manufactured genes, so they can hook up with the appropriate development pathway.
What I think we’ll find, eventually, is that many of these ORFans were cooked up rapidly, and by our own genomes. This completely invalidates Darwinism (natural selection is nowhere to be found in this creative process), but it must be used carefully by ID’ers to point out that both a smart genome (built by a smart designer previously) and a smart designer are capable of producing unique sequences in different lineages. |
He thinks smart genes invalidate natural selection. Your genes are, through some totally unknown mechanism, actually intelligent, and they are scheming to do the Lord's work. You may think they're only sophisticated protein-coding chemicals, but they're actually profound thinkers- sitting there, down in your cells, scheming for the future of the species. This is the kind of hypothesis that you're either a crank or a genius for advancing, and geniuses provide evidence when they do this kind of thing.
Even better, it appears some of the "scienca alternativa" people have posting privileges, if the white text boxes in that thread are any indication.
-------------- "ALL eight of the "nature" miracles of Jesus could have been accomplished via the electroweak quantum tunneling mechanism. For example, walking on water could be accomplished by directing a neutrino beam created just below Jesus' feet downward." - Frank Tipler, ISCID fellow
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