"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank
Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005
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Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 19 2007,11:06) | Quote (guthrie @ April 19 2007,08:21) | Newsflash!
Steve Fuller has a new book out soon. on amazon
The synopsis is interesting reading: Quote | Synopsis If you think Intelligent Design Theory (IDT) is merely the respectable face of Christian fundamentalism, and Evolution the only sensible scientific world-view, think again...IDT has driven science for 500 years. It was responsible for the 17th century's Scientific Revolution and helped build modern histories of physics, mathematics, genetics and social science. IDT's proponents take literally the Biblical idea that humans have been created in God's image. This confident, even arrogant, view of humanity enabled the West to triumph in the modern era. Evolution, on the other hand, derives from more ancient, even pagan, ideas about our rootedness in nature and the transience of all life forms. It has been always more popular outside the West, and until Darwin few evolutionists were scientists. What happened to reverse these two movements' fortunes? Steve Fuller's brilliant revisionist history is essential reading for anyone who wants a deeper understanding of science's most vociferous debate.
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Now, apart from demonstrating that Fuller has no clue about science and how it is and has been practised, it shows that at least he agrees with Judge Jones on one issue- that ID is Creationism, with a religious presupposition. |
It's especially interesting in that it reflects a post-Dover trend I've noticed whereby straight Creationism and ID seem to basically be merging. It's essentially settling into unabashed Creationism except with a top layer of ID jargon recited for appearance's sake.
This person's tactic is interesting: he happily admits that ID is all about Jesus, yet then claims that only by being all about Jesus can one be truly scientific.
It's a completely self-defeating tactic, so I'm cool with it.
It reminds me of FTK's meme of "ID isn't all about Jesus, but Darwinism is atheistic, so that's why ID is correct". That won't work either, so fine. |
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
This is exactly why I love fundies. Love 'em.
Ya see, for them to win and get their Wedge into schools, they MUST, absolutely MUST, shut up about their religious opinions.
Alas for them, they simply can't do it. Ain't none of them can go ten minutes without telling everyone all about Jay-sus.
So not only CAN'T they shut up about their religious agenda, but they don't WANT to shut up about it.
It's why they will never win in court. Ever.
See, IDers are *easy* to beat. All you gotta do is let them talk long enough, and they happily and publicly shoot themselves in the head, every time.
Makes it so much easier.
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