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Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 20 2006,21:35    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 20 2006,15:04) Both "jpeg" and "jpg" are already listed as valid extensions. .jpg yes but not.JPG (Capitals). I can load pics on to Blogger and elsewhere, but not here.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,02:57    Hmmm. Try it now. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,08:23    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 21 2006,02:57) Hmmm. Try it now.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,08:27    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 21 2006,02:57) Hmmm. Try it now. Cool! (I'll reduce any future items)

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,09:09    Nice crow. Where is this from?

sir_toejam Posts: 846 Joined: April 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,10:05    no... that ain't no crow, it's a heavily laden african swallow.

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,10:21    I wonder how many coconuts it can carry...

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,21:13    Quote (jeannot @ May 21 2006,10:21) I wonder how many coconuts it can carry... I don't think He(?)'s a swallow, I'm guessing some kind of eagle, perhaps with a feather-loss problem. I was wondering if Wesley thought he might be amenable to training, as he seems quite friendly. (he seems particularly interested in anyone sunbathing.) I thought I might call him Eric.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 21 2006,21:19    Quote (jeannot @ May 21 2006,09:09) Nice crow. Where is this from? Les Aigles de la Cité, Carcassonne.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2006,04:40    The nice birdie in the picture is likely either a Griffin Vulture or close relative. As for the sunbathers, consider that motionless people without inconvenient wrappings might be of inherent interest to a vulture. As for training, it might be done, but I sure wouldn't want to be the guy to do it. Other vultures are known for regurgitating stomach contents all over anything they deem a threat. I suspect that you'd have the same problem with a vulture, though, that you do for an osprey... even if you man them and train them to come to you, once they are loose, there is basically nothing that you can provide for them that they want. An osprey nails a fish target 19 times out of 20, and vultures don't exactly have a problem in obtaining "prey" once spotted. For red-tailed hawks going after rabbits, the success rate is more like 1 time in 20 attempts, so a falconer can well improve things by providing a reliable food source. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2006,05:44    Wesley Elsberry iiiiissssss.... The Falconer!

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2006,07:22    Here is where I got the pic. They fly a gang of about a dozen Griffin Vultures, but they don't seem to lose many.

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2006,07:26    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 22 2006,09:40) The nice birdie in the picture is likely either a Griffin Vulture or close relative. Indeed, it is Gyps fulvus, the only vulture we can find in France. In French "vautour fauve" (fauve is the color of lions. Does 'deer' refer to a color in English?)

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 22 2006,07:55    Quote They fly a gang of about a dozen Griffin Vultures, but they don't seem to lose many. Thanks for the info. It sounds like they do better than ospreys as training subjects. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Renier Posts: 276 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 25 2006,00:44    I cannot amend any of my posts. I get an error, something like this "You are not permitted to use this board...blah blah... you are logged in as Renier"

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,10:07    sometimes the After the Bar Closes page mentions a new post, but upon clicking the thread, you don't get the new post. I've had the delay last as long as 15 minutes. Anybody else get this or know what's going on? Manually refreshing doesn't fix it. update: a little more data on the problem. I was seeing Quote Pages: (29) < ... 25 26 27 28 [29] > , and seeing 29 pages, and after 30 minutes, when it finally showed me the new comments, they were on a new page, page 30. So apparently page 30 existed for a while, but didn't immediately show up either on the front board or when you hit ">".

Ved Posts: 398 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,10:17    I just had that happen. Posting in the thread seems to fix it.   Ahh, I love computers. If something doesn't work just bang on it a bit with your fist or a sonic screwdriver...

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,10:29    my 'test' post didn't fix it for me. It was a good 10 minutes more before I could see page 30

Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,11:09    Quote (stevestory @ May 28 2006,15:07) sometimes the After the Bar Closes page mentions a new post, but upon clicking the thread, you don't get the new post. I've had the delay last as long as 15 minutes. Anybody else get this or know what's going on? Manually refreshing doesn't fix it. update: a little more data on the problem. I was seeing     Quote Pages: (29) < ... 25 26 27 28 [29] > , and seeing 29 pages, and after 30 minutes, when it finally showed me the new comments, they were on a new page, page 30. So apparently page 30 existed for a while, but didn't immediately show up either on the front board or when you hit ">". I'll corroborate this.  Yesterday I had two duplicate posts because of this bug.  It turned out the first post was at the top of the next page and Steve's query here shows me there really was some problem. Steve after several minutes of closing windows, resetting cookies, and logging in/out, I eventually restarted my computer and that seemed to let me into the next page.  Although by that point other posters had dropped comments and I don't know that it wasn't those that kicked the system into letting me onto the next page rather than my restart. -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,13:05    Too air is human, but two really screw up won needs a computer. Henry testing edit function

ericmurphy Posts: 2460 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 28 2006,16:46    Quote (Paul Flocken @ May 28 2006,16:09) sometimes the After the Bar Closes page mentions a new post, but upon clicking the thread, you don't get the new post. I've had the delay last as long as 15 minutes. Anybody else get this or know what's going on? Manually refreshing doesn't fix it. update: a little more data on the problem. I was seeing         Quote Pages: (29) < ... 25 26 27 28 [29] > , and seeing 29 pages, and after 30 minutes, when it finally showed me the new comments, they were on a new page, page 30. So apparently page 30 existed for a while, but didn't immediately show up either on the front board or when you hit ">" The problem seems to arise when comments flow onto a new page. I've had the delay be as long as an hour or two, but eventually the new comments do show up. It seems to be only the "AF Dave's UPDATED Creator God Hypothesis" thread that has this problem. Maybe God has a problem with Dave's hypothesis? -------------- 2006 MVD award for most dogged defense of scientific sanity "Atheism is a religion the same way NOT collecting stamps is a hobby." —Scott Adams

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2006,09:03    That thread is malfunctioning again. I know there's a new comment on a new page, page 32, but it's not showing me page 32.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2006,09:23    I've mentioned before that iB has a problem when people enter very long comments. That can cause the symptoms being described. I have not seen a fix for it. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

sir_toejam Posts: 846 Joined: April 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2006,09:52    Wes, this seems to be turning into a valuable thread. maybe sticky it?

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 29 2006,11:24    Re "maybe sticky it?" Where's that duct tape... Henry

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2006,12:50    to everybody who's having problems with that updating on AFDave's thread, here's how you get around it. When you go to AtBC, you're at this page: Code Sample http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=14 when you go to an AtBC thread, you get something like Code Sample http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1958 that t=1958 part at the end is the thread number. When you click on a page, like page 41, you get this Code Sample http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1958;st=1200 that st=1200 part means throw away the first 1200 comments, and don't show any comments higher than 1230. If there have been 1202 comments on the thread, and you click on the link and it has st=1200, you get a page with only comments 1201 and 1202 on them. sometimes, whatever updates the page 41 / 1200 numbers doesn't kick in after the next thirty comments, and in this for instance, you'll see, on the AtBC page, a link going to page 40 (st=1170) even though there've now been over thirty comments past comment 1170. So you see only comments 1170-1200, even though you've already seen them. So the solution is this--if you know there are updated comments beyond what it's showing you, go to the last page it will give you. click on the URL in that field of the browser, and manually add thirty to the number. In this case, you'd change Code Sample http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1958;st=1170 to Code Sample http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1958;st=1200 and then it'll take you to the hidden page.

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 05 2006,15:06    nice catch, Steve. Your workaround does the trick every time I've run across the issue so far. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 05 2006,17:12    Yeah, and it doesn't just have to be Mod 30. You can throw away any number of comments you want. Me, I'm using an old computer, and it's a little slow, so sometimes I'll calibrate based on the reply number, for instance, if there've been 1245 replies, and I think I've only missed the last few, I'll modify the link to "T=1238" replies, and only have to wait for the last 7 replies to load. It's very comprehensible, whereas some content systems aren't.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 06 2006,18:38    small correction, just to be an absolute pedant about it-- t=1200 doesn't mean throw away the first 1200 comments. It actually means throw away the first 1199 comments. The first page only shows 29 comments, because it contains the original post. So the 30th reply is the first thing you see on the second page, and so on.

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 11 2006,08:58    To me, the number of topics displayed in a forum page is too small. Interesting threads get hidden too quickly. I don't know what you think of it, folks.

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