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Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2012,11:25    Quote (sledgehammer @ April 01 2012,01:12) Spiffy new webpage.  The alpha helices don't look much like the assorted hardware strewn around... but the wingnut is appropriate. Ha, wingnut! I didn't realize Klinghoffer was working for Biologic.  I wonder what happened to Ann Gauger's previous pool boy?

Freddie Posts: 371 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,07:20    Some good stuff here: Biologic Institute Facebook Page Get it before it all goes 'poof'! -------------- Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy. Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people. Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,08:33    Quote (Freddie @ July 19 2012,13:20) Some good stuff here: Biologic Institute Facebook Page Get it before it all goes 'poof'! You guys are sooooo mean. I hope Casey de-friends all of you. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,17:09    Quote (Amadan @ July 19 2012,08:33) Quote (Freddie @ July 19 2012,13:20) Some good stuff here: Biologic Institute Facebook Page Get it before it all goes 'poof'! You guys are sooooo mean. I hope Casey de-friends all of you. But he will forgive us before he does -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,17:59    Quote (Freddie @ July 19 2012,07:20) Some good stuff here: Biologic Institute Facebook Page Get it before it all goes 'poof'! Beautiful Pwnage!!! Casey is sobbing - not for himself, but becasue all us meanies made the baby jesus cry! :) -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,20:17    Doc Bill is not shy and jumps in to bite Klinghoffer's ass.  It was not good, btw: Hey, Klinghoffer, remember when Abbie Smith kicked Behe's balls up around his ears for a lie he published in Edge? Remember that? It was embarrassing because Behe was sloppy and left comments open on Amazon and Abbie got in there and tore Behe a new one. Behe recanted, remember? He admitted he "made a mistake" when we all knew he lied. You might want to call Mikey and ask him how long it took him to get over being pwnd by a "graduate" student, who are awesome creatures, by the way. You're there right now. You've been caught in a lie and you need to pwn up to it or suffer. Personally, I prefer you suffer but I'm a bad person.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,20:47    Unless I'm wrong, it is impossible to find this exchange without a direct link. I looked all over the home page. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2012,23:22    Banned! I think they got a call from Behe who was having Abbie Smith nightmares! How much of a sociopath do you have to be to open up a social media page on FaceBook then ban people who visit your page? Sick, I tell you.  I wouldn't their mum or the horse she rode in on.  OK, maybe the horse.

Freddie Posts: 371 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,00:25    Look on the bright side: the 100 word posting limit means that any and all cut and paste contributions from KF or BA77 are a non-starter so you won't have to scroll past all that crap. -------------- Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy. Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people. Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 20 2012,02:07    Ow, ow, owwwww. Quote Frank Pettit Casey, in the future, when you describe "cutting edge research" that "overturns the current paradigm", can you limit it to only stuff discovered & proven AFTER I was born? (from the Facebook thread) Poor Casey. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2012,01:59    Add Frank Pettit's name to the list of people who have been banned from the biologic institute's facebook page, and 100+ of his comments were deleted. Here is a link to Frank Pettit's FB page: Pettit And here is a link to the FB thread titled "A Veil Is Drawn Over Our Origin as Human Beings". So much for open and honest discussion -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2012,02:38    I can see thr BI page but not Pettit's. It's asking for a login. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2012,09:20    Quote (midwifetoad @ July 24 2012,02:38) I can see thr BI page but not Pettit's. It's asking for a login. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2012,12:55    Strike up the ban!

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 24 2012,14:55    I was quite a bit less scientific and provided no references with my banning comment: "Nanny nanny boo boo, you can't ban me!!"

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2012,12:44    How can you be moribund on Facebook? BIO-magick seems to have achieved it!  About 200 "likes" and no comments or postings in weeks. Sums up the state of ID, I'd say.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2012,13:51    Quote (Doc Bill @ Aug. 14 2012,13:44) How can you be moribund on Facebook? BIO-magick seems to have achieved it!  About 200 "likes" and no comments or postings in weeks. Sums up the state of ID, I'd say. Took the piss right out of them and cauterized the leak -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 03 2013,09:22    Their never going to find "evidence" for ID. -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2013,01:23    The books in her back say what? Have a closer look: Oh, and she can run gels! With bands! And mutations alternative designs! Therefore Intelligent design must be science. This is the ultimate proof that Ann Gauger is God!! Quote Here’s how we make designer mutations—it takes equipment, hard work, and intelligent intervention. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2013,11:33    Quote (sparc @ June 18 2013,02:23) Quote Here’s how we make designer mutations—it takes equipment, hard work, and intelligent intervention. So if i made a pile of sand on Jax beach with a shovel as a kid, all piles of sand are Intelligently Designed! Intelligent Design people are not really, really stupid. No Sirree Bob!

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2013,18:31    Quote (sparc @ June 18 2013,01:23) The books in her back say what? Have a closer look: Oh, and she can run gels! With bands! And mutations alternative designs! Therefore Intelligent design must be science. This is the ultimate proof that Ann Gauger is God!!   Quote Here’s how we make designer mutations—it takes equipment, hard work, and intelligent intervention. Her mutated codon has a stop (TAG) 2 up from it. Nonsense mutations-> very small islands of function? Unless she's arbitrarily highlighted three bases?

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2013,20:49    Quote (REC @ June 18 2013,18:31)   Quote (sparc @ June 18 2013,01:23) The books in her back say what? Have a closer look: Oh, and she can run gels! With bands! And mutations alternative designs! Therefore Intelligent design must be science. This is the ultimate proof that Ann Gauger is God!!     Quote Here’s how we make designer mutations—it takes equipment, hard work, and intelligent intervention. Her mutated codon has a stop (TAG) 2 up from it. Nonsense mutations-> very small islands of function? Unless she's arbitrarily highlighted three bases? Are these base pairs: T-T, A-A, C-C, G-G? WTF? -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 18 2013,23:28    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ June 18 2013,20:49) Are these base pairs: T-T, A-A, C-C, G-G? WTF? No. This is the output of a program like blast or fasta which compare two sequences. The two sequnences are aligned and identical positions are marked by vertical bars aka pipes. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 19 2013,00:33    The sequences stem from E. coli. I guess this relates to a "paper" (you know it's from Bio-Complexity) on biotin synthesis  Gauger published with Axe that even YEC Todd Wood judged negatively. for more see PT -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2013,23:16    Looking forward to the series of reviews on the content of Biological Information: New Perspectives Tom English announced on his DiEBlog. sorry, wrong thread, will copy it to BI:NP Edited by sparc on June 23 2013,23:26 -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

DiEb Posts: 312 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2013,00:10    Quote (sparc @ June 24 2013,05:16) Looking forward to the series of reviews on the content of Biological Information: New Perspectives Tom English announced on his DiEBlog. sorry, wrong thread, will copy it to BI:NP wrong thread, wrong man ;-) You'll find Tom English at Bounded Science. I hope you will not be too disappointed by my posts....

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2013,02:12    Quote (DiEb @ June 24 2013,00:10) Quote (sparc @ June 24 2013,05:16) Looking forward to the series of reviews on the content of Biological Information: New Perspectives Tom English announced on his DiEBlog. sorry, wrong thread, will copy it to BI:NP wrong thread, wrong man ;-) You'll find Tom English at Bounded Science. I hope you will not be too disappointed by my posts.... Sorry. I am still looking forward to read your posts. Edited by sparc on June 24 2013,02:13 -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Merc Posts: 5 Joined: June 2013 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2013,06:40    Fun!

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2013,08:18    Quote (Merc @ June 27 2013,06:40) Fun! Even when they "do science" they scramble around for a spin. Any reasonable person would just say, "well, yeah, I guess it is pretty easy to do, sorry for the confusion". more please -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2013,09:34    I bet it involves triple integrals and such. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

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