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Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,17:41   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,15:07)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

Doctor G

i wonder what you have to say about this.

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is a complex pathway with 17 highly specific steps, of which eight last steps are used by specific enzymes uniquely in this pathway.

Even if we find in the sequence space the right steps to make the enzymes required to permit the synthesis of the products of these intermediate steps, so what ? the intermediate products would have no function, and no survival advantage of the organism would be provided. Natural selection could not operate to favor a system with anything less than all seventeen enzymes being present, functioning and processing all intermediate products to get the final product. What evolutionary process could possibly produce complex sophisticated enzymes that generate nothing useful until the whole process is complete? And even if everything were in place correctly, and chlorophyll were synthesized correctly, so what ? Unless chlorophyll AND all other proteins and protein complexes were fully in place, fully evolved and functional, correctly interlocked and working in a interdependent manner, photosynthesis would not happen. But even if photosynthesis would happen, so what ? Why would the organism chose such a extremely complex mechanism, if it was surviving just fine previously ? Furthermore, you do not just need the right enzymes. For the assembly of a biological system of multiple parts, following steps must be explained : the origin of the genome information to produce all subunits and assembly cofactors. Parts availability, synchronization, manufacturing and assembly coordination through genetic information, and interface compatibility. The individual parts must precisely fit together. All these steps are better explained through a super intelligent and powerful designer, rather than mindless natural processes by chance, or / and evolution, since we observe all the time minds capabilities producing machines and factories, producing machines and end products.

everything *has* to be in place at once or else an organism has no survival advantage. The thing is, there’s no driver for any of the pieces to evolve individually because single parts confer no advantage in and of themselves. The necessity for the parts of the system to be in place all at once is simply evidence of creation. Photosynthesis missing one piece (like chlorophylls) is like a car missing just one piece of the drive train (such as a differential); it’s not that it doesn’t function as well – it doesn’t function at all!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,17:46   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,17:41)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,15:07)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

Doctor G

i wonder what you have to say about this.

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is a complex pathway with 17 highly specific steps, of which eight last steps are used by specific enzymes uniquely in this pathway.

Even if we find in the sequence space the right steps to make the enzymes required to permit the synthesis of the products of these intermediate steps, so what ? the intermediate products would have no function, and no survival advantage of the organism would be provided. Natural selection could not operate to favor a system with anything less than all seventeen enzymes being present, functioning and processing all intermediate products to get the final product. What evolutionary process could possibly produce complex sophisticated enzymes that generate nothing useful until the whole process is complete? And even if everything were in place correctly, and chlorophyll were synthesized correctly, so what ? Unless chlorophyll AND all other proteins and protein complexes were fully in place, fully evolved and functional, correctly interlocked and working in a interdependent manner, photosynthesis would not happen. But even if photosynthesis would happen, so what ? Why would the organism chose such a extremely complex mechanism, if it was surviving just fine previously ? Furthermore, you do not just need the right enzymes. For the assembly of a biological system of multiple parts, following steps must be explained : the origin of the genome information to produce all subunits and assembly cofactors. Parts availability, synchronization, manufacturing and assembly coordination through genetic information, and interface compatibility. The individual parts must precisely fit together. All these steps are better explained through a super intelligent and powerful designer, rather than mindless natural processes by chance, or / and evolution, since we observe all the time minds capabilities producing machines and factories, producing machines and end products.

everything *has* to be in place at once or else an organism has no survival advantage. The thing is, there’s no driver for any of the pieces to evolve individually because single parts confer no advantage in and of themselves. The necessity for the parts of the system to be in place all at once is simply evidence of creation. Photosynthesis missing one piece (like chlorophylls) is like a car missing just one piece of the drive train (such as a differential); it’s not that it doesn’t function as well – it doesn’t function at all!

Yet another copy and paste from here:

http://reasonandscience.heavenforum.org/t1546-c....pathway

At least have the decency to continue citing yourself so we can see how little effort you're making.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,17:49   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,17:41)
i wonder what you have to say about this.

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is a complex pathway with 17 highly specific steps, of which eight last steps are used by specific enzymes uniquely in this pathway.

You already C&Ped that three pages back you moron.

You're so confused you can't even remember the stuff you've already plagiarized.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,20:16   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,15:12)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,15:07)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

No kidding.....

No, I was not kidding. You have spent a few days now dodging, and denying obvious facts.

So what was you intent? What motivated you?

You posted some biblical text that you also failed to understand. The Christian Saints Augustine, and Thomas Aquinas rebuke you. There is a Bible centric version of science that is not creationism per se. There are scientists, and theologians who have placed an emphasis on biblical versus like Psalm 19:

1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.

2 Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.

Or;

Psalm 85:11 which reads, “Truth springs from the earth; and righteousness looks down from heaven.” The Hebrew word translated here as “truth,” emet, basically means “certainty and dependability.”

This promotes the notion that the material universe is a physical "testament" equally true as revealed scripture. Below are a selection of books by Christians who are theologians, scientists, and often both;

Ayala, Francisco
2006 "Darwin and Intelligent Design" Minneapolis: Fortress Press (Ayala was a Jesuit seminarian. Today he is a leading molecular biologist at teh University of California, Irvine).

Collins, Francis S.
2006 "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief" New York Free Press- Simon and Schuster (Francis Collins is a born-again Evangelical. He was the Director of the Human Genome Project, and is today Director of the National Institutes of Health, USA).

Frye, Roland Mushat (editor)
1983 "Is God a Creationist?: The Religious Case Against Creation-Science" New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, Inc. (There are several contributors who are clergy, and scientists)

Godfry, Stephen J. and Christopher R. Smith
2005 "Paradigms on Pilgrimage: Creationism, Paleontology, and Biblical Interpretation." Toronto: Clements Publishing. (Interesting combination. Friends from seminary, and now brothers-in-law. One is ordained, the other left the church and is a professional geologist).

Haught, John F.
2001 “Responses to 101 Questions on God and Evolution” New York: Paulist Press. (Haught is a Catholic theologian who testified as a plaintiff expert in the Dover, Pa “Intelligent Design” trial).

Hyers, Conrad
1984 “The Meaning of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science” Atlanta: John Knox Press (Conrad Hyers has served as Professor of the History of Religion and Chair of the Department of Religion at both Beloit College and at Gustavus Adolphus College. He is also an ordained Presbyterian minister)

Miller, Keith B. (editor)
2003 “Perspectives on an Evolving Creation” Grand Rapids: Eerdmans Publishing (There are several contributors who are clergy, and scientists)

Ken Miller
2008 “Only a Theory” New York: Viking Press (Ken Miller is the co-author of the most popular high school biology textbook in the USA. He is a Professor of Biology, and an observant Catholic).

Roberts, Michael
2008 "Evangelicals and Science" Greenwood Press (Michael Roberts is an Anglican Priest, and a Certified Geologist).

Since Otangelo is willing to ignore obvious scientific facts, I expect he will ignore theology, and Bible facts.

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Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,21:19   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,20:16)
Since Otangelo is willing to ignore obvious scientific facts, I expect he will ignore theology, and Bible facts.

Nice dodging.

Who is ignoring who ? Second time i post the same argument, but no answer... LOL.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,21:34   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,21:19)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,20:16)
Since Otangelo is willing to ignore obvious scientific facts, I expect he will ignore theology, and Bible facts.

Nice dodging.

Who is ignoring who ? Second time i post the same argument, but no answer... LOL.

You didn't post an argument.  You posted some info you C&Ped from AsshatsInGenesis then did your usual IDiot dance "It's SOOOOOOO complex!!  That means GODDIDIT!!"

You couldn't form a coherent argument if your ignorant Fundy life depended on it.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,21:41   

Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

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L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,21:53   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,21:41)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

dodging again. I am providing to you a hypothesis, to which i am offering you the oportunity here to test your views, and refute my claims if you can.

waiting......

p.s. i am suspecting that you dodge the issue, because you have no good explanation based on natural mechanisms.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,21:55   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,21:41)
It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired).

Good.

Then below text is reaching the right address.

Please answer......

Doctor G

i wonder what you have to say about this.

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is a complex pathway with 17 highly specific steps, of which eight last steps are used by specific enzymes uniquely in this pathway.

Even if we find in the sequence space the right steps to make the enzymes required to permit the synthesis of the products of these intermediate steps, so what ? the intermediate products would have no function, and no survival advantage of the organism would be provided. Natural selection could not operate to favor a system with anything less than all seventeen enzymes being present, functioning and processing all intermediate products to get the final product. What evolutionary process could possibly produce complex sophisticated enzymes that generate nothing useful until the whole process is complete? And even if everything were in place correctly, and chlorophyll were synthesized correctly, so what ? Unless chlorophyll AND all other proteins and protein complexes were fully in place, fully evolved and functional, correctly interlocked and working in a interdependent manner, photosynthesis would not happen. But even if photosynthesis would happen, so what ? Why would the organism chose such a extremely complex mechanism, if it was surviving just fine previously ? Furthermore, you do not just need the right enzymes. For the assembly of a biological system of multiple parts, following steps must be explained : the origin of the genome information to produce all subunits and assembly cofactors. Parts availability, synchronization, manufacturing and assembly coordination through genetic information, and interface compatibility. The individual parts must precisely fit together. All these steps are better explained through a super intelligent and powerful designer, rather than mindless natural processes by chance, or / and evolution, since we observe all the time minds capabilities producing machines and factories, producing machines and end products.

everything *has* to be in place at once or else an organism has no survival advantage. The thing is, there’s no driver for any of the pieces to evolve individually because single parts confer no advantage in and of themselves. The necessity for the parts of the system to be in place all at once is simply evidence of creation. Photosynthesis missing one piece (like chlorophylls) is like a car missing just one piece of the drive train (such as a differential); it’s not that it doesn’t function as well – it doesn’t function at all!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:02   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,19:41)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

Apparently you are neither able to learn, or even answer a simple question.

What do you think you are doing?

All I see is a fool.

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L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

   
Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:14   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:02)
What do you think you are doing?

All I see is a fool.

haha.

Rather than a rational discourse and subject specific answering of the issue in question, you have decided to start name calling me.

What a nice scientist you are... pffff.....

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:15   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,21:53)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,21:41)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

dodging again. I am providing to you a hypothesis, to which i am offering you the oportunity here to test your views, and refute my claims if you can.

waiting......

p.s. i am suspecting that you dodge the issue, because you have no good explanation based on natural mechanisms.

Liar and theif accessing others of dodging ? Tsssk

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Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:17   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:02)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,19:41)
Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts.

I do have a question that only you can answer; "What are you trying to do?"

It cannot be to learn anything. It cannot impress the majority of us who are professional scientists. (In my case retired). We either already know the science you have garbled, or we have enough education to read the science. Unlike you we can understand what we read.

Are you just jerking off to the attention you have gotten?

Apparently you are neither able to learn, or even answer a simple question.

What do you think you are doing?

All I see is a fool.

I will help you a littlebit further, Mr. Scientist with air of superiority... LOL...

On the one side you have a intelligent agency based system of irreducible complexity of tight integrated , information rich functional systems which have ready on hand energy directed  for such, that routinely generate the sort of phenomenon being observed.  And on the other side imagine a golfer, who has played a golf ball through an 12 hole course. Can you imagine that  the ball could also play itself around the course in his absence ? Of course, we could not discard, that natural forces, like wind , tornadoes or rains or storms  could produce the same result, given enough time.  the chances against it however are so immense, that the suggestion implies that the non-living world had an innate desire to get through the 12 hole course.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:18   

http://www.angelfire.com/pro....nce.htm

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:36   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Jesus tittyfucking Christ if this moron didn't just link to the "genius" of Gordon E. Mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat.

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

What a F.I.A.S.C.O.  Where's the 6500 C3 fishing reel?  :p

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:37   

I'll even drop the only question I had that you might have answered.

Apparently you cannot answer it.

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Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:42   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:37)
What do you think you are doing?

Well, i will tell you what i am doing.

I am showing the superior explanatory power of intelligent design over naturalism.

I will show you now what Blankenship, THE expert of photosynthesis, has to say about the issue in question :

Blankenship: Molecular mechanisms of photosynthesis pg.208:

It is not conceivable that highly complex molecules such as chlorophylls were synthesized by prebiotic chemistry, given their very specific functional groups and multiple chiral centers. Instead, they are the end product of a progressive evolutionary development, in which simple molecules are the start of the biosynthesis chain and are then progressively elaborated in later steps. In this view, each intermediate in the modern pathway was at some point the end point in the pathway. This requires that each intermediate in the modern pathway be usable in the past as an end product. In the case of chlorophyll biosynthesis, Granick proposed that simple porphyrins or porphyrin precursors were the starting points, and that successive steps were added to improve the efficiency of the pigments or to extend light absorption into new spectral ranges. This is an appealing
idea and is probably at least partially true. The Granick hypothesis in the context of photosynthesis has been championed by Mauzerall (1992), as well as embraced by others (Olson and Pierson, 1987; Olson, 1999, 2006).

This is about the best explanation that proponents of naturalistic origins can come up with. All it exemplifies is baseless just so assertions in a superficial manner. Pseudo science at its best. It should be clear to any honest thinker that there is a hudge gap of explanatory power between proponents of naturalism, and design.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:45   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 19 2015,20:36)
Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Jesus tittyfucking Christ if this moron didn't just link to the "genius" of Gordon E. Mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat.

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

What a F.I.A.S.C.O.  Where's the 6500 C3 fishing reel?  :p

What a fucking moron the Chewtoy is.




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Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:49   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:45)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 19 2015,20:36)
 
Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Jesus tittyfucking Christ if this moron didn't just link to the "genius" of Gordon E. Mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat.

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

What a F.I.A.S.C.O.  Where's the 6500 C3 fishing reel?  :p

What a fucking moron the Chewtoy is.



haha.

The rational discourse has definitively been exchanged for explicit trolling.

BIG fail...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:49   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:42)
   
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:37)
What do you think you are doing?

Well, i will tell you what i am doing.

I am showing the superior explanatory power of intelligent design over naturalism.

I will show you now what Blankenship, THE expert of photosynthesis, has to say about the issue in question :

Blankenship: Molecular mechanisms of photosynthesis pg.208:

Hmmm.

The expert on photosysnthesis, the professional scientists who has studied it his entire life, has no doubt the process evolved through natural means.

The scientifically ignorant engineer who only knows how to copy and plagiarize and who doesn't even know what the technical terms mean says with zero evidence GAWD POOFED IT.

Who to believe?   :D

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Otangelo



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:51   

all spectators will be ashamed of you guy's.... what a petty.... LOL

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:54   

http://postimg.org/image....yfhe9fl

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,22:54   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:49)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,22:45)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 19 2015,20:36)
     
Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Jesus tittyfucking Christ if this moron didn't just link to the "genius" of Gordon E. Mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat.

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

What a F.I.A.S.C.O.  Where's the 6500 C3 fishing reel?  :p

What a fucking moron the Chewtoy is.



haha.

The rational discourse has definitively been exchanged for explicit trolling.

BIG fail...

Psst.. hey Otangelo...

You're the one who has been kicked off multiple science discussion boards for being an asshole, only spamming boards with C&Ped stuff you don't understand and running from all questions.  Just like you're doing here.

The difference is we won't ban you.  We'll just point out what an ignorant fool you are every time you post this crap.  Eventually you'll get tired of looking like a fool and leave.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,23:10   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,22:54)
http://postimg.org/image......age....



:D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,23:41   

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Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals

And here we have it, excuse making when you cannot provide real evidence and scientists see it.

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Origin of life: no evidence
Biodiversity : no evidence that macro evolution above species ever happened. Plenty of reasons to reject the claims.....
Fossils : plenty of evidence they are young...

This is an outright lie because I provided you long lists of evidence, proper peer reviewed ones.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2015,23:51   

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I think i do have interest in the truth. I am not interested in self delusion. And i am unimpressed with your credentials. What is relevant to me, are the facts on the table.

This is another lie that has been dmeonstrated here, you reject observed science in favour of what suits your pet idea.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,00:16   

Quote (EmperorZelos @ Nov. 19 2015,23:41)
Quote
Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals

And here we have it, excuse making when you cannot provide real evidence and scientists see it.

Quote
Origin of life: no evidence
Biodiversity : no evidence that macro evolution above species ever happened. Plenty of reasons to reject the claims.....
Fossils : plenty of evidence they are young...

This is an outright lie because I provided you long lists of evidence, proper peer reviewed ones.

Take one, just ONE of the peer reviewed papers in the two lists you provided, and post compelling reasons provided by the papers to accept abiogenesis and macro change, that is empirical data of a unorganized undirected unguided Neo-Darwinian accidental random macro-evolutionary event of a change/transition, where  one "kind" can evolve into another beyond the species level (i.e. speciation) ,  like a organism randomly changing/transition into a whole entire different, new fully functioning biological features in an organism, the emergence of new complex functions, a new genus or higher rank in taxonomy, with the arise of new body plans, wings, eyes, lungs, gills, sexual gender, transition from prokaryotes to eukaryotes, the arise of photosynthesis and nitrogenase in cyanobacteria;  something that we merely don't have to just put  blind faith in.

Call me a liar does not help your case either. Its just a sign of despair. You can do better than that, can't u ?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,00:43   

Flank's dictum holds. They come in pretending to do science, but they always, always, always descend into Bible-thumping.

Every. Single. Time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,01:00   

Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,20:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Otangelo, do you agree with everything that gordo (kairosfocus) said on that page? Do you agree with everything that he says on his other pages on his blogs and at UD? If there is anything that you disagree with, what is it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,01:06   

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 20 2015,01:00)
Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,20:18)
http://www.angelfire.com/pro........nce.htm

Otangelo, do you agree with everything that gordo (kairosfocus) said on that page? Do you agree with everything that he says on his other pages on his blogs and at UD? If there is anything that you disagree with, what is it?

what i have posted, is all i have read of his website.

  
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