Dr.GH
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Quote (Otangelo @ Nov. 19 2015,15:12) | Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2015,15:07) | Otangelo, I won't keep wasting time offering facts. You have shown that you have no interest in facts. |
No kidding..... |
No, I was not kidding. You have spent a few days now dodging, and denying obvious facts.
So what was you intent? What motivated you?
You posted some biblical text that you also failed to understand. The Christian Saints Augustine, and Thomas Aquinas rebuke you. There is a Bible centric version of science that is not creationism per se. There are scientists, and theologians who have placed an emphasis on biblical versus like Psalm 19:
1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
2 Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
Or;
Psalm 85:11 which reads, “Truth springs from the earth; and righteousness looks down from heaven.” The Hebrew word translated here as “truth,” emet, basically means “certainty and dependability.”
This promotes the notion that the material universe is a physical "testament" equally true as revealed scripture. Below are a selection of books by Christians who are theologians, scientists, and often both;
Ayala, Francisco 2006 "Darwin and Intelligent Design" Minneapolis: Fortress Press (Ayala was a Jesuit seminarian. Today he is a leading molecular biologist at teh University of California, Irvine).
Collins, Francis S. 2006 "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief" New York Free Press- Simon and Schuster (Francis Collins is a born-again Evangelical. He was the Director of the Human Genome Project, and is today Director of the National Institutes of Health, USA).
Frye, Roland Mushat (editor) 1983 "Is God a Creationist?: The Religious Case Against Creation-Science" New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, Inc. (There are several contributors who are clergy, and scientists)
Godfry, Stephen J. and Christopher R. Smith 2005 "Paradigms on Pilgrimage: Creationism, Paleontology, and Biblical Interpretation." Toronto: Clements Publishing. (Interesting combination. Friends from seminary, and now brothers-in-law. One is ordained, the other left the church and is a professional geologist).
Haught, John F. 2001 “Responses to 101 Questions on God and Evolution” New York: Paulist Press. (Haught is a Catholic theologian who testified as a plaintiff expert in the Dover, Pa “Intelligent Design” trial).
Hyers, Conrad 1984 “The Meaning of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science” Atlanta: John Knox Press (Conrad Hyers has served as Professor of the History of Religion and Chair of the Department of Religion at both Beloit College and at Gustavus Adolphus College. He is also an ordained Presbyterian minister)
Miller, Keith B. (editor) 2003 “Perspectives on an Evolving Creation” Grand Rapids: Eerdmans Publishing (There are several contributors who are clergy, and scientists)
Ken Miller 2008 “Only a Theory” New York: Viking Press (Ken Miller is the co-author of the most popular high school biology textbook in the USA. He is a Professor of Biology, and an observant Catholic).
Roberts, Michael 2008 "Evangelicals and Science" Greenwood Press (Michael Roberts is an Anglican Priest, and a Certified Geologist).
Since Otangelo is willing to ignore obvious scientific facts, I expect he will ignore theology, and Bible facts.
-------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy."
L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"
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