Otangelo
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Joined: Oct. 2015
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| Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 21 2016,20:16) | | Quote (Otangelo @ Jan. 21 2016,16:23) | | Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 20 2016,21:45) | |
| Quote | | Of course, a mind isn't requiredOf course, a mind isn't required, but your simplistic understanding does. |
baseless assertion. Can you show me a example of coded, specified, complex information, that has not a intelligence as origin ? |
Sure. But to provide the information you want... I need...
Define "coded, specified complex information"
What does "coded" mean in this context? What determines if some information is "coded" or not? Does meaning play any part in that?
What does "specified" mean in this context? Who does the specifying? With what tools and systems? How?
What does "complex" mean in this context? How do you measure complexity? What units? Why?
What does "information" mean in this context? How do you measure it? What units? Why?
What values of the above require a mind? What values do not require a mind? Why?
What is the "mind" that resulted in life as we know it? How do you know?
Also, I note you snipped all the questions AND ignored my challenge. Which I will repeat here for you...
Can you, Otangelo, determine the difference between coded, specified information and random information? I challenge you to do so.
If you cannot, then you have no possible way to determine the answers that you think you already know. If you can, and can do so reliably, then you will have a Nobel prize (or whatever the equivalent is) for mathematics waiting for you.
Just let me know when you are ready. I'll provide two strings. One random and one that is complex, coded, and specified.
eta: I have already provided the information that you requested, however, YOUR definitions seem to reject those systems. Therefore, without precise definitions of what you mean, nothing more can be done.
I'm willing to bet any amount of money that you've never even tried to define or measure those words you keep using. |
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