NoName
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I'd be very interested to hear his definition of 'information'.
Clearly, pretty much unarguably, natural processes can produce vast amounts of information.
Stellar spectra are information. They are produced by natural phenomena.
Tides are information. They are produced by natural phenomena.
Fingerprints are information. They are produced by natural phenomena.
I would be very interested in hearing about any sort of information at all that isn't produced by 'natural phenomena'. Humans are as natural as protozoa, and by most measures, less complex than stars.
To assume, or rather assert that humans aren't natural phenomena and so must be explained by recourse to other non-natural phenomena is a huge case of question begging.
We have precisely zero reason for assuming humans are not natural phenomena.
We are, in fact, still waiting for clarification on what the heck a 'non-natural phenomenon' is.
But please, 'information' first. What is information? How is it determined that it is never produced by natural phenomena, particularly given the examples of stellar spectra, absorption spectra, the orientation of slightly magnetized iron needles in a magnetic field, and a host of other purely natural phenomena.
The only recourse is to use double-talk for 'information' or to abandon the notion of 'natural phenomena', which goes not further than does taking all phenomena as natural, except it violates Ockham's razor in a big way.
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