Acartia_Bogart
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CLAVDIVSApril 28, 2016 at 6:31 pm
Eugen
If you can’t be bothered to educate yourself on the issue then why should I be bothered to do it for you?
In kindergarten terms:
– Marriage is permitted for straights but not gays
– The basis of this discrimination is not rational
All the arguments pro- and con- were ventilated thoroughly in Perry v Schwarzenegger. Gay marriage proponents won, bigtime. The judge was totally unimpressed with the anti-gay-marriage side:
– Their “evidentiary presentation was dwarfed” by the pro-gay-marriage side
– They presented only 2 witnesses, one of whom was totally ignored by the judge as “unreliable and entitled to essentially no weight”, and the other was only accepted as an expert in a limited area
– They “failed to build a credible factual record to support their claim that Proposition 8 served a legitimate government interest.”
– The ban on same-sex marriage did not pass even the most minimal scrutiny under equal protection law, because it denied a fundamental right—the right to marry the person one chose—without a “legitimate (much less compelling) reason.”
– The anti-gay-marriage side “presented no reliable evidence that allowing same-sex couples to marry will have any negative effects on society or on the institution of marriage.”
– The judge found a ban on gay marriage must “find at least some support in evidence. … Conjecture, speculation, and fears are not enough. Still less will the moral disapprobation of a group or class of citizens suffice, no matter how large the majority that share that view.” |
Can Clavdivs be far behind IE? Defending SSM and criticizing Mullings. I like this guy already.
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