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Quote (GaryGaulin @ May 07 2016,14:14)
And FYI, the Unimolecular Intelligence section currently reads:
 
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Unimolecular Intelligence

Clues to the origin of intelligent living things are found in rudimentary molecular systems such as self-replicating RNA. Since these are single macromolecules that can self-learn they are more precisely examples of “Unimolecular Intelligence”, as opposed to “Molecular Intelligence”, which may contain millions of molecules all working together as one.

REQUIREMENT #1 of 4 - SOMETHING TO CONTROL

The catalytic ability (chemically reacts with other molecules without itself changing to a new molecular species) of ribonucleotide (A,G,C,U) bases combine to form useful molecular machinery. Where these bases are properly combined into strands they become a mobile molecule that can control/catalyze other molecules in their environment and each other, including using each other as a template to induce each others replication. Unlike RNA that exists inside a protective cell membrane (as our cells have) these RNA's are more directly influenced by the planetary environment, which they would have once have been free to control. Modern examples include viruses that can control the internal environment of their host, and may now have protective shells with sensors on the outside for detecting other suitable host cells to enter and control. In some cases after invading a host cell other sensors detect when conditions are right to simultaneously reproduce, thereby overwhelming the immune system of their hosts, which could otherwise detect then destroy them.

REQUIREMENT #2 of 4 – SENSORY ADDRESSED MEMORY

The ribonucleotide sequences are a memory system that also acts as its body. On it are molecular sites, which can interact with nearby molecules to produce repeatable movements/actions. Its shape can include hairpin bends that are sensitive to the chemical environment, which in turn changes its action responses nearby molecules and to each other. Their combined activity also changes their molecular environment, much the same way as living things have over time changed the atmosphere and chemistry of our planet.

REQUIREMENT #3 of 4 - CONFIDENCE TO GAUGE FAILURE AND SUCCESS

Molecular species that can successfully coexist with others in the population and the environmental changes that they caused are successful responses that remain in the population. Molecular species that fail are soon replaced by another more successful (best guess) response. The overall process must result in collective actions/reactions that efficiently use and recycle the resources available to multiple molecular species or else there is an unsustainable chemical reaction, which ends when the reactants have consumed each other, resulting in an environmental crash.

REQUIREMENT #4 of 4 - ABILITY TO TAKE A GUESS

For a rapidly replicating molecule RNA editing1 type mechanisms can become a significant source of guesses. Also, molecular affinity will favor assimilation of complimentary ribonucleotides but where some are in limited abundance another ribonucleotide may replace what was previously used. The change may work equally well, or better, for their descendants.

theoryofid.blogspot.com/
sites.google.com/site/theoryofid/home/TheoryOfIntelligentDesign.pdf

In addition to prior criticisms:
You have not yet demonstrated that the initial living things were intelligent.
Millions is an underestimate.
"Self-learning" is problematic, particular in regard to molecules.  
"Mobile" is problematic.
Viruses mostly don't fully control their hosts' interiors.
"that also acts as its body"?

", which in turn changes its action responses nearby molecules and to each other." Say what?
"Their combined activity": Unreferenced their.


Molecular species: not species the way you imply elsewhere.

"another more successful (best guess) response": That's not a guess.

 
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The overall process must result in collective actions/reactions that efficiently use and recycle the resources available to multiple molecular species or else there is an unsustainable chemical reaction
 No, that's why we have free diatomic oxygen in the atmosphere.

 
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, which ends when the reactants have consumed each other
 Usually, one is used up (or at least drops to saturation levels or below), and some of the other one remains unused.

 
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resulting in an environmental crash.
That can happen, but it doesn't have to.

"editing1 type mechanisms"  ???
Those aren't guesses either.

  
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