GaryGaulin
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Joined: Oct. 2012
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| Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Oct. 23 2014,11:11) | | Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 23 2014,01:50) | | Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 22 2014,22:13) | | I normally just ask for an opinion, somewhat like that. It might be a good idea, maybe. |
Go for it. What have you got to lose? You could even ask arrington, gordo mullings (kairosfocus), or v.j. torley to devote a thread to examining/reviewing your 'theory'. I would think that the IDers there should be very interested in every version of ID 'theory', so I don't see any legitimate reason for them turning you down. |
Gary will never post his "theory" at UD.
His attention whore disorder attributes being rejected by "bullies" a form of confirmation he is correct. That's why he only posts in real-science real science forums.
Being rejected by the ID community Gary supposedly belongs to would shatter the overblown image he has of himself, at long last rendering his pathetic life utterly meaningless. He would then have to face the undeniable truth he has wasted decades of time on worthless, soon-to-be-forgotten crap.
It would be more than he could handle. |
LOL!!!
The reality of the situation is that I'm very in the middle of political extremes and for scientific reasons I cannot side with either.
Fairly judging what I code requires knowing what else is around for minimal code cognitive science related models. What did in the past worry me to the point that it seemed the world had gone mad and it will not be long before the corruption completely destroys me was what happened during the 2011 holiday season in comments at (neutral territory also not sided with either extreme) Planet Source Code:
Even though it's not as scientifically noteworthy as the Nobel Prize the computer model being awarding the model the PSC superior coding award (to spite protest from extremists) was for me a life changing event. It made all my fears of being misunderstood immediately gone, for good! A serious life changing depression I could never get over was avoided, thanks to peers at PSC who for real saved me from going out of my mind crazy.
I don't want to have to worry about what happens at UD. It would not change what has happened over the years that empowered my most immediate peers. Some are academic scientists and others self-taught scientists who rely on how-to resources for their learning, like I do. This might be hard to relate to, to someone from a university or who had a public school experience that scientifically excited them. They did not need to find that on their own at library, home courses, mail order how-to books and other resources, including years of free New England BioLabs catalogs sent to my house by mail by my requesting one of their first after learning about their almost constant discoveries that were there described then sold as a product. I have to thank them for sending even though I never needed to buy enzymes from them for any of my experiments. But I did get to know the folks at the nearby Connecticut Valley Biological Supply Company who had at home suitable projects, I could usually afford. After having kids of my own it became a family project type thing where my wife most enjoyed the scenic ride through Southampton farmland to a place with local critters of almost all kinds. We also have a local A2Z that helped out a few times.
It makes sense that I have a different way of looking at a scientific problem that is so loaded with academic politics one side is for name sake renting space at a major university while for name sake those employed there do the same thing except don't always have to pay. In this case what matters is what there is someone can take home (these days just download) to experiment with where one can try to demonstrate what science itself requires be called "intelligent cause" regardless of any implications that exist that cause some to object to computer models and theory that can.
You can say that I would welcome their help, but in some ways it's just as well that UD stays out of things until sure how to address it without causing unintended consequences by getting too involved in what develops from what needs to be controlled by others. In this case earler on PSC led to the Kurzweil AI forum discussions that started with the Edvard Moser video that led to another model of interest to AI that came from the ID model, which in turn empowered Edvard and through him others in neuroscience to help control the power of a controversial theory simply by letting me know where the grid cell model scientifically stands as it relates to AI and neuroscience, which are both a part of cognitive science but what works for me in what here is more precisely AI does not have to be neuron by neuron exactly like a real animal brain and it's too early to exactly know how close the grid cell model is to how our brain works. What I explained is how to navigate from here to there then another place, which requires more than figuring out where we are, which all by itself does not produce intelligent behavior found in biology. That became most obvious too me while experimenting with what came from N Burgess, C Barry and J O'Keefe that led to 24/7 popcorn that's still being served from the Kansas Citizens For Science forum too.
I'm curious as to what UD would do but I'm in no rush to find out. I don't have to care what they think and I must (for science sake) keep it that way. There is in reality zero chance that I would obsess over something like that. That kind of worry is reserved for when I have something new for Planet Source Code or wrote an email to someone I consider an important scientific authority (like Edvard) that does not even mention the ID theory and more likely be another model or idea they would most likely genuinely find worth looking at (not a request for something they have to do for me or my bothering them with questions already answered in their papers). As a result of the way things really are I found your reply to be amusing. Even worth writing about.
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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
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