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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 07 2011,11:11   

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The objection made to this article is that there is no proof of novel genetic material in the study.


You have to realize by now that even were you to show that novel genetic material was created then they'd simply drop back to "you can't explain the origin of the original information" and "it's easy to make new genetic material from existing genetic material, you have to explain the origin of genetic material full stop". †

And in any case, if they'll accept evolution if it can be shown that evolution can generate novel genetic material that's an easy example to show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......lyploid

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So one could assume that the mutations are only induced by the enviroment and are not genetic based?

I don't understand the question. A mutation is a mutation, however it was induced. Even when (as just discussed) the environment is static mutations continue to occur. And a mutation must always be "genetically based" as that's what's mutating!

So perhaps they are trying the front loading angle?

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another thing I have replied to this saying that the development of the Cecal valve which is only been developed on the lizards of one island can only be produced with an increase of the amount of genetic material.

Not necessarily. As Ogre notes changing a letter does not change the length of a sequence but can substantially alter the "meaning". Perhaps it had an increase, perhaps it did not. See Lenski.
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Or would it be possible that these genes were somehow latent and were only expressed when the animal turned to a heavier herbivourous diet?

Anything is possible but only science will tell you what actually happens. It's more then possible there is much more detail on this specific topic by now, that article was fairly old as these things go. Perhaps check to see if there was any follow up research?

What's their exploration for the valve in question? Did the designer notice that it was needed and reach in and add it? Can they even begin to state an answer? If not, why don't they accept yours until they can come up with a better one, that's the key question.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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