forastero
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| Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 05 2011,17:03) | | Quote (forastero @ Dec. 05 2011,15:10) | First of all, your interpretations of the Bible is as limited as your science. Aquatic animals were not on the ark.
Secondly, secondly scientists believe most aquatic animals began in freshwater and acquired a tolerance for saltwater as the oceans slowly built up salinity. Btw, this ocean formation seems in good harmony with the Flood. Science also tells us that animals in the past were much more genetically diverse so it is my belief that the first aquatic animals were euryhaline and lost some of there. As they say, if you dont use it you loose it.
As for Big Bang, your own links that you send me to assume nuclearsynthesis. In my opinion, it was a supernatural explosion that is still beyond human understanding. |
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you used a different Bible than most other Christian religions.
Genesis 7 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.”
23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
You might claim the water animals might have been exempted. However, my interpretation is that "Every living thing" was "wiped from the earth". And only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
You may disagree with my interpretation. However, that just shows how the Bible is open to interpretation.
The simple fact is that pure salt water creatures cannot change to survive in fresh or brackish water in 40 days. Pure fresh water creatures cannot change to survive in brackish or salt water in 40 days. There are a FEW specialized fish that can make the transition (salmon... once) and a few others. However, it is a simple fact that most cannot.
The only recourse you have to require a miracle. This is totally non-scientific.
Oh, BTW: Since, on the order of 5 miles worth of compacted rock was deposited during this flood, I think it safe to assume that NOTHING that wasn't on the ark could have survived. Again, your only recourse is to appeal to a miracle.
In fact, for every single point about the Flood, you MUST appeal to a miracle. That's the only way you can 'support' any claims.
| Quote | | As for Big Bang, your own links that you send me to assume nuclearsynthesis. In my opinion, it was a supernatural explosion that is still beyond human understanding. |
You are an idiot. You really think that the links I forwarded to you make the claim that the Big Bang was a fusion event? I would like you to quote an actual cosmologist in an actual peer-reviewed paper that makes this claim. I dare you.
Did you happen to read the part where I told you that protons didn't even exist for the first three minutes AFTER the Big Bang?
Of course you didn't.
I'm really curious. Do you honestly believe that you are making valid points here? Really? |
Even secular Bible scholars understand that Genesis 7:8 speaks of land animals that creepeth upon the earth, which btw were being devastated by the demonically influenced men or Nephilim.
Again, no one believes that waters that came up from the deep oceanic ridge and the waters that came from rain and comets were salty? No scientist believes the oceans originated as saltwater either. Salt water didt appear in huge quantities until it was leached from rocks into ocean basins over thousands of years. This why saltwater plants and animals have freshwater representatives.
Of course, I believe in miracles. Millions of born again Christian testify to them, including the ones scurrying all around us in and those that God would miraculously preserve for us as both fossils and on the Ark
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