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forastero Posts: 458 Joined: Oct. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2011,11:08    Tracy, there is a solar constant too but even your Ogre agrees solar forces have gone through "lowered radiative output". Moreover, no one has yet to quote me saying or indicating that "laws" change so they are just playing semantics; but the interpretation of laws are modified and Einstein's expansion on Newton's Law of Gravity is a case in point.

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