forastero
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| Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2011,20:37) | | Quote (forastero @ Nov. 06 2011,17:52) | | Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 05 2011,13:17) | Here is your e | Quote (forastero @ Nov. 05 2011,12:41) | If if the systems degrade [due to sin] as you say, it doesnt diminish the fact that thing or way different today. Plus you even admit that the forces makes huge leaps and drops.
Oh and again, what are you empirically calibrating this dating technique to and why must they autonomously send the samples all over to "supposedly" prevent the abundantly prevalent fraud with these dating techniques? A few secret emails is the norm, I'm sure.
Again go look at a geological map like the dudes do and you will see that these so called eras are spread all over horizontally. Plus oil dudes often love anything that supports survival of the fittest corporate cronyism. |
1) quote me, in context, as saying that forces make huge leaps and drops. Explain how my comment (as referenced above) implies in any way, shape, or form that fundamental laws are changing. (Hint, the force applied to a car when you lightly touch the gas pedal is much lower than when you press the pedal all the way to the floor.)
2) isochrons - look it up
You still have not explained what the mechanism of the change in fundamental forces is that would cause radioactivity to change rates. You still have not explained how this change continues to result in wildly different dating methods all returning the same age.
3) Have you ever heard of 'uplift' or 'sinking'.
You are actually incorrect, oil dudes love anything that makes them money and geology does so. What contributions have your notions made to the world? None... |
Here is your exact quote Ogre:"The amount of light hitting the Earth has changed... duh.
This is a well known phenomena that the sun goes through cycles of lowered and increased radiative output. It is in no way evidence for or implying that any fundamental laws of the universe are changing."
Yes, I am the one who first brought up uplifting. All kinds of stuff gets uplifted and in often miraculously designed and derivatively designed ways
Um dude, thats about what I said about oil dudes too |
You didn't finish your work. You were supposed to explain how that statement implied or supported that the fundamental laws of physics are changing... forgot about that did you?
BTW: Here's an interesting article... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.......riation
There are 57 references. I especially like this quote from the Wikipedia article
| Quote | | The level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional — the last period of similar magnitude occurred around 9,000 years ago (during the warm Boreal period).[29][30] The Sun was at a similarly high level of magnetic activity for only ~10% of the past 11,400 years, and almost all of the earlier high-activity periods were shorter than the present episode.[30] |
References
Usoskin, I. G.; Solanki, S. K.; Kovaltsov, G. A. (2007). "Grand minima and maxima of solar activity: new observational constraints" (PDF). Astronomy & Astrophysics 471 (1): 301–309. Bibcode 2007A&A...471..301U. doi:10.1051/0004-6361:20077704. Retrieved 3 June 2011.
Solanki, Sami K.; Usoskin, Ilya G.; Kromer, Bernd; Schüssler, Manfred; Beer, Jürg (2004). "Unusual activity of the Sun during recent decades compared to the previous 11,000 years" (PDF). Nature 431 (7012): 1084–7. Bibcode 2004Natur.431.1084S. doi:10.1038/nature02995. PMID 15510145. Retrieved 17 April 2007., "11,000 Year Sunspot Number Reconstruction". Global Change Master Directory. Retrieved 2005-03-11.
Whoops
"secret e-mails"... How did they do this in the 60s and 70s?
Oh never mind, just put on your tinfoil hat.
No, for, not ALL KINDS of stuff gets uplifted. Only some stuff in very specific locations.
You are just randomly selecting a comment and then applying it to a totally different topic. It's really funny how far you will go to avoid discussion, when you know you fracked up. (BTW: What was exploding during the Big Bang?)
No, that's not what you said. I said that oiil 'dudes' use geology because it works. You claim that the geological science that they use on a daily basis is wrong.
Let's see, they are making billions of dollars per year, using my version of science... and no one makes a dime using yours. Bye bye, thanks for playing. |
Where did I ever say the laws were changing. You dont have to change laws to make change. For instance, the human body, the earth, the solar system etc..
oh yes, all kinds of things get uplifted. Heck, Ive seen sand, coral, shells, fossils, rocks, minerals, gems, metals etc etc uplifted atop mountains. Ice, lava, and water get uplifted too
In the 60 and 70s, phone calls were fairly common
No, actually, I said that you didnt understand their geology or their geology maps but that they would probably like your survival of the fittest creed
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