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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2013,16:09   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 20 2013,11:03)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 19 2013,20:55)
When it comes to biology Dr. Tour is a real dumbfuck.  Instead of reading his Bible every morning he should be reading Wikipedia articles on biology.  Then he could possibly just maybe become less of a dumbfuck about biology.

I'm a chemist, too, Dr. Tour, and to you I say Fuck You, you Dumb Shit!  Man to man, that is.  Respectfully.

Tour is known at Rice for his Bible thumping and has had some problems with graduate students who are not the thumping kind, but managed to avoid administrative entanglements.  

Tour's exposition on "microevolution" and "macroevolution" is especially childish and uninformed and, of course, wrong.  That's what gripes me the most.  Tours is a lazy bastard who hasn't taken the time to learn about the subject he talks about.  Fucking waste of breath, Tours is.  And a liar.  That's the worst part.  Delusional liar for Jesus.  On a crutch.

I am willing to cut Tour a little slack, since Tour realizes he is not an expert.  Right at the top of his essay he says

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Assuming that I have something significant to contribute to the evolution vs. creation debate, many ask me to speak and write concerning my thoughts on the topic. However, I do not have anything substantive to say about it. I am a layman on the subject. Although I have read about a half dozen books on the debate, maybe a dozen, and though I can speak authoritatively on complex chemical synthesis, I am not qualified to enter the public discussion on evolution vs. creation. So please don’t ask me to be the speaker or debater at your event, and think carefully about asking me for an interview because I will probably not give you the profound quotations that you seek. You are of course free to quote me from what is written here, but do me the kindness of placing my statements in a fair context.


However, Torley wants to take Tour's opinions as informed (argument by authority) since Tour is a highly published chemist, when Tour himself will not.  I guess Torley knows better than Tour.  LOL.

Since last Lent, I have gone to UD only four times.  I am doing pretty good, and this was worth falling off the wagon for.

No, I'm not cutting Tour any slack.  He's going to "pull a Behe" on Matzke by demanding to see every chemical change, and the conditions and etc infinitum.

Tour is a smart guy but he's a lying creationist like all creationists.  He sounds like FL:  show me the steps of whale evolution.  Every creationist pulls the same dishonest stunt:  show me the proof of evolution.

Tell you what, Tour, why don't you get off your lazy ass and read up on the subject.  Hell, I've got a copy of Coyne and Orr's book on Speciation.  I'll drive it to your house.

Yes, I read Tour's pathetic disclaimer that he doesn't know much about the subject and then waded through his childish pout that nobody ever sat down with him over lunch to explain the chemistry of evolution.  So, let's see, Tour thinks this could be done in 90 minutes - including some insightful interruptions - and yet he's spent years, decades doing NOTHING until this miraculous event occurs.

Can't wait for Nick's report!  I'll even provide the Subject title:  Tour Pulls a Behe!

(and that's how I really feel!)

  
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