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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2012,21:29   

Quote (Patrick @ Nov. 30 2012,19:44)
Quote (JLT @ Nov. 30 2012,19:32)
So, I still have the UD comments in my feed reader, although nowadays I mostly ignore them. But this one caught my eye.

So I think we already have proof of the supernatural.

1. Place X number of intelligent people in a room who all speak the same language.
2. Provide an accurate clock which can be seen by all.
3. Tell them them to raise their right hands precisely Y seconds from NOW.

Given our fore-knowledge of crowd behavior ( see for exapmle films of the Nazi army before Hitler ) we can assume such an experiment would be successful ( all right hands raised in the precise time as humanly measured ) and that X and Y are completely arbitrary ( space and time constraints allowing ).

I contend there is no natural explanation for the above.

1. From what we know about human beings, it was a voluntary response to raise the right hand ( they have the ability to NOT do). We can show this by before hand telling an arbitrary population of the group that they will receive 1 million dollars if they do not follow the command given.
2. There is no conceivable natural way that the mere speaking of the words at T=0 formed a natural set of preconditions in all X people causing the raising of the right hand at T=Y. This solution is highly improbable.
3. Therefore it only makes sense that the X people made a willful decision to tie some abstract future event ( the ticking of clock hands arbitrarily forward in time ) to a willful act of raising their hands.
4. But booth of the above willful acts ( deciding to tie the act to a future event, and executing the act at that time ) being determined by an immaterial will lies outside the realm of the natural and are supernatural events.
5. Thus the existence of the supernatural is proven.

TL;DR: people raising their hands when told to do so proves the existence of the supernatural (and Jesus, presumably).

I just had to post this, it's such a fine example of pure and undiluted TARD, brought tears to my eyes.

Ahh, that's the good stuff.  Slipping in "immaterial will" takes it from the ridiculous to the sublime.

Why then do they blame Darwin and not God for Hitler?

"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

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