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| Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 06 2012,22:45) | Okay, that does it. For quite awhile I've wondered what motivates you (Elizabeth Liddle) to even bother trying to discuss/debate anything with gordon mullings (kairosfocus), and I've also wondered if you have paid any attention to what he has been saying at UD, his blog, and elsewhere on the internet, for years, and whether you have standards that you're actually willing to firmly stand up for.
How you could possibly say this is beyond me:
"But you insist on reading that as saying that you are accusing atheists of being immoral. We know you are not saying that." |
I should not have used "we" and I apologise. But it seemed to me that he had, repeatedly, made the point that he thinks we all have consciences, and are therefore capable of behaving morally, and that the is not therefore accusing atheists of being immoral, or amoral.
I'm prepared to accept that.
But he keeps on avoiding the real charge by erecting the straw man that I am accusing him of accusing atheists of being amoral.
I'm not. I'm accusing him of accusing atheists of promoting an amoral worldview, which he is.
As for telling him he doesn't need to apologise: he doesn't. he keeps starting his posts with things like "pardon" or "this will be painful but..."
It's totally unnecessary. Indeed, it's quite insulting. He is not hurting me by saying these things, because he has no authority over me, and, in any case, he is simply wrong.
So I'd far rather he dropped the apology.
If he wants to apologise for repeatedly accusing atheists of promoting an amoral worldview, that's fine. I should have been more specific.
I simply meant it in regard to what he had actually apologised for, which I assumed the context made clear, but in retrospect, does not.
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