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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2012,10:05   

Quote (Seversky @ Jan. 28 2012,18:54)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 28 2012,17:58)
 
Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 28 2012,17:15)
Omnkiscience has to be a drag. If I were omniscient and omnipotent I'd make something that would surprise me.

WRT to "God", this has always vexxed me. Why do ANYTHING? You KNOW the outcome..

Exactly!  

Why would an omnipotent, omniscient God, one who is the Necessary First Cause, bother to cause us now or anything at all at any time?  As a necessary being, it has no need of, is not dependent upon, is not contingent upon anything outside itself.

Yet kairosfocus and his ilk would have us believe that such a being needs to have a relationship with them.

Talk about absurd.

Simple, this God has no free will, and is simply following the pattern that is put in place.  He can no more choose to do anything than anyone else.  The question then becomes "what set the pattern?"  Was it a still higher being, the basic structure of the universe itself, the nature of this being that imposed this pattern and made it the unthinking "Queen Ant" in our anthill?

Of course, as proposed above, some theologists go with the  "limited omniscience" model, sometimes stating directly the this god knows everything as it happens, but somehow has no idea of what the future will be, just sees the possibilities.  This would mean that it can have a plan, but no idea if it will actually happen, implying that we little cogs in the great machine can actually thwart this being, and therefore are (in one way) more powerful than it.  Usually there are excuses to explain why this isn't so, but like all theology they fall flat if you look at thin critically and rationally.

At least that's been my experience.

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