Dale_Husband
Posts: 118
Joined: April 2008
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| Quote | | I find it interesting that you think I'm "defending" religious people and creationists. That you and others think that way makes me realize that you're twisting what I actually say into something different than what I actually say because of your own biases. |
Or maybe we are reacting the way we do because we have normal minds and find your inconsistency just incomprehensible.
| Quote | Few to none of you seem to understand me. Of course you'll assume it must be my fault, but first take a look around this site. What do you see? I see a bunch of people with pretty much the same attitude about certain things they don't like. I also see a bunch of people with pretty much the same attitude about certain things they do like. In other words, clones.
Anything or anyone who doesn't fit into the belief system here is instantly and automatically attacked and treated as the enemy. They MUST be an evil creationist troll! Off with their head!
Hmm, that sounds just like the way some religions treat people who don't adhere to their belief system. In fact, it sounds a lot like Muslim extremists. Infidels! Off with their heads! |
We have a community here with shared values, yes. But I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to execute people for being Creationist. What stupid hyperbole!
| Quote | Think about it, and think about this too:
Everything said on this site, or on Panda's Thumb, or Pharyngula, etc., is available to read by anyone who wants to. When someone comes here and makes their first comment they likely have already read some or a lot of the stuff said here. Just because that person is new to you doesn't mean they're new to the site. What you people say here may make some people happy but it may also incite some people to respond in a way that you won't like.
Try putting a billboard in your front yard with something controversial or insulting on it. See what happens when your neighbors and the community see it or hear of it. Don't be surprised when some people respond in a way you don't like. This site is more accessible to more people than your front yard.
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You are merely stating the blatantly obvious. That's called empty rhetoric.
| Quote | | Ya know, if I were a creationist troll, as I've been accused of being, it would be real easy to cause all kinds of malicious trouble here. You people are so easy to figure out and you're very predictable. |
You mean you'd be even WORSE than you are now?
| Quote | In case you're wondering, I'm not a worshiper of science or religion. I like science, good science that is, a lot, but I don't see it as something to worship or believe 'in'. I'm practical and skeptical but I'm also open minded about some things. To me, being skeptical isn't just about religion. It's about science too and maybe even more so than religion. Religion is mostly pretty easy to figure out and it usually doesn't change much or very quickly. Science is a lot more complicated than religion and there are a lot of new claims and/or changes on a daily basis. Nature is a lot more complicated than science, so I'm skeptical about any claim science makes about nature. I don't just automatically believe anything or everything some scientist says, no matter who they are.
It's because I like science that it pisses me off when it's done badly. Some of the shit in science should never happen and I wish more scientists were more concerned with cleaning up the messes in science than they are in fighting against religion. If science were strong enough, and made more accessible, understandable, interesting, and enjoyable to the masses, religious zealots wouldn't be as big a problem. |
Gee, you say all the right things, but your track record shows that you pick fights over the silliest things, like whether or not certain woodpeckers are extinct. Why not talk about really important issues like the misuse of science for military purposes?
I have written about the importance of peer review and skepticism in science. It's standard procedure among scientists, including those who study evolution. You seem to think we believe the opposite, which is a falsehood.
Natural selection and the scientific peer review process.
So what the hell are you griping about???
| Quote | Just one thing I'd really like to see:
TV stations/networks with good science and nature shows on 24/7, on free TV (not just cable or satellite) in as many countries, states, and cities as possible. Some of the shows could be aimed at children, in the appropriate time slots. Religious zealots have some of their shows on 24/7 on free TV (and on cable and satellite). Why can't science do the same thing? To reach a bigger audience requires a bigger effort.
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Nice. So why aren't you working harder for that instead of bitching so much at us?
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If you need a man-made book to beleive in a God who is said to have created the universe, of what value is your faith? You might as well worship an idol.
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