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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2011,11:57   

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Bill, all of this response of mine isn't necessarily directed to you.

What you want to say is, "not all of this response of mine is directed to you." (Pet Peeve: "All Fords are not Mustangs" is not the same as "Not all Fords are Mustangs.")
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I don't know enough about how you feel about things, so some of this may not apply to you at all.

You don't need to know a thing about me to respond to the following:

"ID is not and cannot be a science, the claims of its advocates notwithstanding."
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[Scientsts] won't consider [ID or Creation] to be scientific unless that testable theory is put forth to their satisfaction.

If you mean to say that scientists won't consider ID to be scientific until a testable theory is put forth, you are correct. Nor should they, and you should demand the same.
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most of you…expect absolute proof of ID and/or creation before you'll even consider that there could be any truth to them.

This is false, in my opinion. Nor is it remotely equivalent to "scientists won't consider ID to be scientific until a testable theory is put forth."
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At the same time, many of you…speak as though science has all the answers to every question.

That is also false, in my opinion. I've been posting here four years and have never encountered anyone remotely demanding absolute proof, or asserting that science answers every question. Can you produce a single instance of either?
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What's so bad about admitting that science doesn't know everything and that a lot of things will never be known?

I'll shout it from the mountaintops and sing it o're the golden plains: "Science doesn't know everything and a lot of things will never be known."

Now, why not respond to the following:

"ID is not and cannot be a science, the claims of its advocates notwithstanding."

That what most here assert. If you're really interested in understanding why ID gets no traction in the scientific community, engage with that.

[Edited to remove unneeded and not quite accurate characterization of Kris' post.]

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
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