Joe G
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| Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 22 2015,21:06) | | Quote (OgreMkV @ June 22 2015,20:48) | Design is not a mechanism. Design purpose, planning, or intention that exists or is thought to exist behind an action, fact, or material object.
Actually constructing that object, building that object, modifying that object requires PHYSICAL efforts, tools, materials... even if they are genetic and/or molecular.
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? According to ID.
That's the thing you idiots don't get. Design is meaningless without a system to accomplish the design. Design is not the end of the process, it's beginning.
I've designed hundreds of spaceships, but not a one has been built. I've designed organisms, hell, I've even designed an alternate biochemistry for energy transfer between plant analogues and animal analogues using ketones as the rough equivalent of ATP.
Doesn't mean that I can BUILD it.
So you morons need to fucking man up and admit you don't have a fucking clue about the mechanisms that are used to build the design.
IF you wimp out like the chichenshit we all know that you are, then you will say that genetics is the tool kit... in which case, you have just admitted that everything that science says is true. Further, that means that the only difference between what you wish was true and what is actually true is the actual designer itself.
So, you either have to produce the designer or show how a bacterium can purposefully modify it's own genetic code to make itself better... and include a lengthy discussion of why only some bacteria are smart enough to do this.
But we all know that you can't do that. You're going to run away from this discussion, just like you've run away from every other discussion you've ever had about this.
Here's a hint, yelling at us, calling us stupid, cursing, trying to turn this discussion back on us, saying we don't understand the issues....
that's all pathetic attempts to divert attention away from the one true thing we've know about you for over 5 years. You don't have a clue.
You couldn't get a clue if you were naked in a field of horny clues, drenched in clue musk and doing the clue mating dance.
You can't even begin to describe a mechanism for ID that is in any way different than that of evolution. You can't begin to describe the limit of evolution, because you really don't know what it is.
So, feel free to explain how the ID position describes the tools and construction of organisms from the designer's plans. We're all waiting. Most of us have been waiting for almost two decades and, if you and the rest of the morons in the ID camp are any indication, we will go on waiting.
You know what, even if ID were correct. Even if there was a real designer. Even if every living thing on the planet was purposefully designed, frontloaded with all the information to change over time and had perfect knowledge of the future of the entire Earth biosphere... it would NOT be you clowns who would find out about it... because you are all pathetic morons.
That was fun. Let's do this again in 4-5 years and I'm willing to bet large sums of money that ID will only continue to decline... not that you would admit it. |
Chubs is a YEC. He knows GAWD spoke the living creature designs ("kinds") into existence just like GAWD spoke the universe and Privileged Planet into existence. ID supports baraminology, don't forget.
Of course Chubs can't ever admit to any of that because then the whole charade is blown, as if no one in science ever saw through ID's "it's not about the Designer!" transparent bullshit. :D |
Actually every biological experiment ever conducted supports baraminology. Lenski's experiment does.
ID is about the DESIGN and always has been. Again your childish ignorance, while amusing, means nothing.
But anyway I wouldn't expect a child-molesting, syphilis-riddled coward like Timmy Horton to understand.
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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth
"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton
Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD
YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism
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