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Freddie



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2011,09:28   

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DaNews is happy and surprised that Nelson and Wells were treated nicely by biologists.  

I imagine there was no time for withering critique, as every exchange began sympathetically with "Aww, doesn't the Discovery Institute have enough money to pay for non-shitty posters?  You poor thing!"

I mean seriously, I've seen undergraduate research projects with better poster design.

I love this comment:

         
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There is a subtle shift in thought going on. ID is not hep-c on a napkin anymore. Not all people are fleeing from it. They are paying attention to the arguments, and many have teeth. But ID needs to be ready for the next stage. Like Nelson said, many people were saying, OK. But now what? What do you propose?



Yes, please do tell.  Just what, exactly, do you people propose?

While you're at it, why do you detail some of those 'arguments' that 'have teeth', because I sure as hell haven't heard them yet.

I think the whole reception thing was more akin to a bunch of grownups

A) being polite to the children who dressed up in big boy clothes

B) modelling correct behavior for said children

C) all the while thinking 'aww, idn't de widdle kiddy coot'

D) "OK now go tear the heads off barbie dolls kiddo, adults have to have a serious talk now."

From the link, Paul Nelson:
   
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The overwhelming response from everyone else was, "OK, Paul -- so what do you propose to do?" Next time I'll be better prepared to step into the opening these questions provide.

I have a hard time believing that was the overwhelming response from participants.  I would have thought it was more along the lines of "what is the detailed ID theory that better explains the evidence and facts that are today best explained by modern evolutionary theory?"

I'm absolutely amazed that he states he didn't have answers prepared for that question.  I mean, how long has he been pushing this agenda and he doesn't know how to answer the simplest, most obvious question about it?  I work in product marketing ... if I wasn't able to answer "off-the-cuff", superficial/detailed questions not only about my product, but about the overall market and the competitive environment I operate in I would be out of a job pretty damn quickly.

Oh, and let's not forget to stoke the whole conspiracy/expelled angle again:
       
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The most exciting exchange I had, near the end of the Sunday afternoon session, I can't describe here, because the biologist who stopped to talk is a hero of mine (really) for the questions she asks, and I don't want her friendliness towards me to cost her anything in her own work. I'll say this, however: the spirit of open inquiry was alive at SDB 2011.

rriiiggghhhhtttttt .....

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Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.
Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.
Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

  
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